Rings of Power CRASHES and BURNS! 45% on Rotten Tomatoes!

[ambi]

just wow. why is there a massive gap between media critics and audiences (80% vs 45%)? where are the legions of fans?

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_rings_of_power

edit: as a comparison, the House of the Dragon got an 85% audience score.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/house_of_the_dragon

[Your_White_Knight]

Messaggio originale di Devsman:

That might actually be the highest score I've ever heard of on rottentomatoes.

I have no idea what's actually on the site but every time anyone mentions it, it's because something got like an 8%, 20% etc score.

83% Average Tomatometer - to - 37% Average Audience Score...

I see a lot in the "83%" of "incredible visuals" and "visually spectacular"... not much about story or plot or characters...

On the other side..

I see one "5 star" rating in the "37%"... sounds like someone here championing for it with just the same "logic"... lol

" Amazing from start to finish, anyone who doesn't give the first 2 episodes anything less than 5 stars is wrong in my opinion, doesn't matter if your a new or old lotr fan,an incredible visual experience, "

The lone voice crying "STOP DISLIKING WHAT I LIKE OR ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG!"

Funny enough... there's that "incredible visual" thing again... still no talk about story or plot or characters... just "it looks great".

For more then a Billion dollars... the "visuals" better look good...

[Your_White_Knight]

Messaggio originale di Darkie:

Messaggio originale di Your_White_Knight:

I don't think you understand... it's not a given... it's only an "investment" to get people into the service if people actually use and invest in the service...

Even if you disregard all the people who will sail the high seas for watching this... if it's not popular or even worse makes people not like what they pay for... they will stop paying.

Novelty aside if you think there's a rush of people buying Amazon's service for even watching it as a train wreck... Amazon's stock is down -5.72 (-4.26%) past month... it's not working.

If you just look at how stocks change day to day, you don´t know how stocks work......


It is a given that they will be more likely to use their other services, if they used one. It is also certain, that if they bought a subscription to watch the series, they supported the overall business.. again.. it is not just a company, it is a global conglomerate.....

Do you know what a conglomerate is?.. Some might even argue it is even more than that (that is pretty scary) I don´t think people understand just how big Amazon actually is and what they dapple in, less so when they don´t understand that a billion in one tiny sector is nothing in the greather cogs of the machine.

People will not stop paying, if they are on a service, then the vast majority will keep using it or come back later.. that is why a platform like EGS gives out so many free games and have exclussives, because if people are already on a platform, they are more likely to use it and be less weary of it.


Success or not from one show means nothing for their streaming service (a tiny part of Amazon) people don´t care about past transgressions they often come to get products they want or is interested in and in some other areas, cheapest.

That was a month.. not "day to day"... and you'er talking about how much money this "show" is taking in with people subscribing to the platform...

Where's the money?

O.k.... news of Rings of Power has been out for years and it's been known to be this year...

Yearly stocks: -40.37 (-23.69%) year to date.

Where's all that money you keep talking about Amazon is making on this?

And yes... they will stop paying... they will find something else.

[Volfogg]

One thing I don't get. If people overall don't like this inclusive thing, why them creators put that inclusive thing anyway? Wouldn't it seem like *forcing* people to *like* this inclusive thing? It's more likely gonna result in people doing the opposite and *hating* on inclusive thing just to show their disdain to such peer pressure and what-not. Maybe even to spite creators (which frankly seem like terrible people at this point, would be a bit karmic).

[Zero, Dark Knight]

This thread is just a bunch of people desperately trying to grab the attention of others, all the while ignoring anything which is thrown their way in terms of feed.

Member kids, never feed the trolls after midnight, and it's after midnight somewhere in the world.

[Your_White_Knight]

Messaggio originale di Volfogg:

One thing I don't get. If people overall don't like this inclusive thing, why them creators put that inclusive thing anyway? Wouldn't it seem like *forcing* people to *like* this inclusive thing? It's more likely gonna result in people doing the opposite and *hating* on inclusive thing just to show their disdain to such peer pressure and what-not. Maybe even to spite creators (which frankly seem like terrible people at this point, would be a bit karmic).

Because there's small groups inside the industry that are telling companies "This is what people want" when it's not... and then they show them Twitter posts that back up the nonsense...

Just like politicians don't really know what people want other then what their underlings tell them.

And when it does fail... they try again, and again, and again... hoping to wear people down into liking it.. but that's never going to happen.

Places like Warner Brothers though... are starting to get the idea and cut the rot out of the system

[Your_White_Knight]

I am going to miss Rings of Power I'm going to be watching something deeper and more realistic

https://youtu.be/Ols03gpTjW4

[ambi]

Messaggio originale di Volfogg:

One thing I don't get. If people overall don't like this inclusive thing, why them creators put that inclusive thing anyway? Wouldn't it seem like *forcing* people to *like* this inclusive thing? It's more likely gonna result in people doing the opposite and *hating* on inclusive thing just to show their disdain to such peer pressure and what-not. Maybe even to spite creators (which frankly seem like terrible people at this point, would be a bit karmic).

americans have always been imperialistic, particularly white liberals. i guess they see themselves as saviors, appropriating other cultures and "improving" them with token diversity.

[Devsman]

Messaggio originale di Volfogg:

One thing I don't get. If people overall don't like this inclusive thing, why them creators put that inclusive thing anyway? Wouldn't it seem like *forcing* people to *like* this inclusive thing? It's more likely gonna result in people doing the opposite and *hating* on inclusive thing just to show their disdain to such peer pressure and what-not. Maybe even to spite creators (which frankly seem like terrible people at this point, would be a bit karmic).

Trying to force people to like things and the resulting pushback more or less summarizes the last 20 years of American politics.

More than 20, now that I think about it. But I was too young to notice before that, lol.

[Entity]

Messaggio originale di Rupika:

Suspension of disbelief

Suspension of disbelief is possible when something remains constant and consistent. When it is jarring to the surrounding work then you get zapped straight back out.

[Entity]

Messaggio originale di Rupika:

Would tolkein be angry about black people being cast in the tv show?

Considering he didn’t allow the license to be misused as he knew others would insert their own agenda into his work, he wanted it kept to roughly how it had been written. You think he did not know about black people? He’d be angry that cultural terrorists had turned his work into an intentional racial provocation. You can see the motives by the arguments used by his critics.

[ambi]

Messaggio originale di Rupika:

Messaggio originale di Entity:

Suspension of disbelief is possible when something remains constant and consistent. When it is jarring to the surrounding work, then you get zapped straight back out.

Would tolkein be angry about black people being cast in the tv show?

there are "non-white" races in middle earth. from what i can remember, there were the easterlings, the haradrim and the variags.

not that they appear in the show. this is why it's been called fanfiction.

[Neurotic Panda]

absolute trash that has almost nothing to do with Tolkiens works. Its like a show loosely based off some stuff that happened in Tolkiens world/works and they just filled in the rest how they felt and the writing is juvenile.

Made up characters, Made up story lines and the characters that are there are nothing like how they are in his writings. Galadriel is horrible for starters, the elves all have modern humanized hair cuts? like wth great clips move into middle earth now??

If you haven't read Tolkiens works/writing and you think this show is amazing. please, stop.

An example.

You LOVE wizard of oz. They are making a new one and telling everyone its going to be so great and a total classic and re-telling of the original.

you watch.

Dorothy is now a trans male named Don and lives in Montana. An Avalanche is what got her/him in the dream not a tornado. The yellow brick road is now the rainbow road., The wizard of Oz is now female and hates men for w/e reason and wont grant wishes to them. The Tin man is now Recycle girl with an agenda and is an activist who cant stfu, the Scarecrow is a weak male who actually commits suicide so you get a suicide hotline warning before and after the show, and the cowardly lion they had to cut out because lions are endangered IRL and that may offend someone so its now the balding Llama who needs hair transplants..

you get the idea.

this is what they are doing in this show to Tolkiens work. is sad and distasteful becasue they are ruining some of the best fantasy ever written and arguably some of the first of its kind. disgusting. Tolkien is crying in his grave.

Make you OWN fantasy story and Do w/e the hell you want to it. Dont take a timeless classic literal piece of history and twist it all up to fit a narrative of modern political and societal ideals and issues.

the show is a waste of time if you are looking for serious lore friendly Tolkien.

So glad they cant change the books, well at least the Tolkien books i own.

[ambi]

holy shmoly, i didnt know there was a lotr mod for ck3

[Entity]

It’s now at 37%

[Medified]

Man this person's posts are UNEVENTFUL and OVERHYPED.