Rings of Power CRASHES and BURNS! 45% on Rotten Tomatoes!

[ambi]

just wow. why is there a massive gap between media critics and audiences (80% vs 45%)? where are the legions of fans?

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_rings_of_power

edit: as a comparison, the House of the Dragon got an 85% audience score.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/house_of_the_dragon

[AdahnGorion]

引用自 Your_White_Knight：

引用自 Darkie：

In that case, he did care, but he does not care anymore now.

There is a difference after all

Our little jokes aside. There is little more to talk about atm. Maybe after a few more episodes, we can debate deeper, after all we could see a dramatic change in quality.

I differ with your difference... but again we'll have to agree to disagree.

I guess that depends on what you mean by "quality"... some ( SOME ) more impressive CGI? that's already there won't change "quality" any more...

Quality in writing and acting? ( and I won't even use quotes on those words even though I should ) that bar won't be hard to match with already having:

"...our hearts are bigger then our feet..."

No joking...

Fair enough.

My point was, that depending on our subjective take here, the show might actually develop into something we/I might like, based on our bias.
I don´t actually think GCI is important at all, it is a "nice to have" in my world, but should never be the spectacle.

[Morkonan]

引用自 Groogo：

Amazon has shut down access to the "Rings of Power" series rating, and IMDb deletes ratings due to a lot of criticism and negative reviews
https://gagadget.com/en/kino/163185-amazon-has-shut-down-access-to-the-rings-of-power-series-rating-and-imdb-deletes-ratings-due-to-a-lot-of-criticism-a/

This just makes me nauseous.

...By the way, according to insider information, Prime Video instituted this policy for all of its shows this summer.

In addition, there are reports that IMDb (owned by Amazon) has started to remove negative and even generally neutral reviews, which is causing the series' rating to go up.

On the other platforms, however, the situation is quite different. For example, on Rotten Tomatoes the user rating of "Rings of Power" was only 35% and on Metacritic the users' rating was 2.3 points out of 10...

So, they're throwing spit balls in the world series where the prize is recouping a billion monies...

[Your_White_Knight]

引用自 Darkie：

引用自 Your_White_Knight：

I differ with your difference... but again we'll have to agree to disagree.

I guess that depends on what you mean by "quality"... some ( SOME ) more impressive CGI? that's already there won't change "quality" any more...

Quality in writing and acting? ( and I won't even use quotes on those words even though I should ) that bar won't be hard to match with already having:

"...our hearts are bigger then our feet..."

No joking...

Fair enough.

My point was, that depending on our subjective take here, the show might actually develop into something we/I might like, based on our bias.
I don´t actually think GCI is important at all, it is a "nice to have" in my world, but should never be the spectacle.

Maybe for you.

My point was... if CGI isn't important and that's 95+% of the show's "quality" because the rest of it IS, poor acting, poor story line, poor characters, etc and isn't "quality" there's nothing TO develop into liking...

CGI spectacle is it's only "quality"... and even a vast majority of "positive" "reviews" agree.

[AdahnGorion]

引用自 Your_White_Knight：

引用自 Darkie：

Fair enough.

My point was, that depending on our subjective take here, the show might actually develop into something we/I might like, based on our bias.
I don´t actually think GCI is important at all, it is a "nice to have" in my world, but should never be the spectacle.

Maybe for you.

My point was... if CGI isn't important and that's 95+% of the show's "quality" because the rest of it IS, poor acting, poor story line, poor characters, etc and isn't "quality" there's nothing TO develop into liking...

CGI spectacle is it's only "quality"... and even a vast majority of "positive" "reviews" agree.

I never said the majority of it was GCI however.
With that being said, if my interested is still not peaked after 4 episodes, its a goodbye.

I give most things a chance, if they are just remotely something I am interested in either lore, premise, genre.

[Your_White_Knight]

引用自 Darkie：

引用自 Your_White_Knight：

Maybe for you.

My point was... if CGI isn't important and that's 95+% of the show's "quality" because the rest of it IS, poor acting, poor story line, poor characters, etc and isn't "quality" there's nothing TO develop into liking...

CGI spectacle is it's only "quality"... and even a vast majority of "positive" "reviews" agree.

I never said the majority of it was GCI however.

Well the vast amount of CGI is there if you say it is or not...

引用自 Darkie：

With that being said, if my interested is still not peaked after 4 episodes, its a goodbye.

As your right... no disagreement there

引用自 Darkie：

I give most things a chance, if they are just remotely something I am interested in either lore, premise, genre.

I don't need to see the product myself.. there was enough of a chance before it came out... that's what Trailers are for.

I can't help that they put enough in their trailer and interviews to tip their hand... that's on them.

[ChaffyExpert]

As for what i was talking about flashy and ridiculous fights, look no further.

https://youtu.be/l_jRbDCFYeY

Now compare that, to this: (should probably skip ahead to about 2:00)

https://youtu.be/w-Ulf__1HZc

Lol new drinking game, take a drink every time that troll is stabbed or shot, not even tiny slashes like with the ice troll but actually plunging a dagger/sword in as far as it will go.

Not to mention all of the times the fellowship uses the troll's strength and weapons to their advantage.

And, for bonus points, they also all get beaten and battered during the fight.



Now, the way i would make this scene, is have her run up to it (rather than jumping as that's dangerous and pointless, feinting one direction to get it to swing at her and miss, dodging the strike moving to the other side and stabbing it (maybe lighter or a deep slash since you wouldn't want the weapon to get stuck or something) move behind the troll and dodge as it most likely swings again, then slash the leg and jump it's back to it's neck and stab it (much like how Legolas shoots the elephant-thing whatever it was called and the troll) and then you get an cool scene with the troll falling face forwards with her on top, sword deep in the neck. Or something a little bit longer, maybe with Galadriel getting tossed for more narrative tension.

Either way, you get the point, it could be done better, and i'm not even a screen-writer.

[Jazz]

Well I saw some of it, and shockingly, it's pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful.

[Ye]

引用自 Jazz：

Well I saw some of it, and shockingly, it's pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful.

Why did they say it was awful?

[Ye]

引用自 Traror：

I didn't say it was, just pointing out that there is plenty of divergences whenever source material is made into a move, but what matters is how much is based, and whether the changes make sense or improve upon, or is simply "making stuff up."

RoP is doing the latter.

There is a reason for the change. Think as to why.

[Ye]

I see some people saying that the new diversity in the show is because it is a modern take. If you think this ask yourself in the future, what do you think would be a modern take then? Would it have no White people at all?

Probably, based on their low birthrates and mass immigration into only their countries.

If you were to go to China and say there are too many Chinese they would be offended and kick you out.

If you were to go to the USA or Europe and say there are too many White people they would say, "Yes" and eliminate themselves so you could replace them.

[Your_White_Knight]

引用自 Ice_Wallow_Come：

引用自 Jazz：

Well I saw some of it, and shockingly, it's pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful.

Why did they say it was awful?

引用自 Ice_Wallow_Come：

引用自 Traror：

I didn't say it was, just pointing out that there is plenty of divergences whenever source material is made into a move, but what matters is how much is based, and whether the changes make sense or improve upon, or is simply "making stuff up."

RoP is doing the latter.

There is a reason for the change. Think as to why.

引用自 Ice_Wallow_Come：

I see some people saying that the new diversity in the show is because it is a modern take. If you think this ask yourself in the future, what do you think would be a modern take then? Would it have no White people at all?

Probably, based on their low birthrates and mass immigration into only their countries.

If you were to go to China and say there are too many Chinese they would be offended and kick you out.

If you were to go to the USA or Europe and say there are too many White people they would say, "Yes" and eliminate themselves so you could replace them.

You're not making any sense...

[Ye]

引用自 Your_White_Knight：

You're not making any sense...

I'm saying they won't exist much longer at this rate and will be only found in museums next to homosapiens. The new diversity shift is adjusting to their elimination.

[Morkonan]

引用自 Traror：

As for what i was talking about flashy and ridiculous fights, look no further.

https://youtu.be/l_jRbDCFYeY
..

I got that beat. I got that beat...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z58BckE1yM

[Your_White_Knight]

引用自 Morkonan：

引用自 Traror：

As for what i was talking about flashy and ridiculous fights, look no further.

https://youtu.be/l_jRbDCFYeY
..

I got that beat. I got that beat...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z58BckE1yM

Now ~ that's ~ a movie...

[Morkonan]

引用自 Your_White_Knight：

引用自 Morkonan：

I got that beat. I got that beat...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z58BckE1yM

Now ~ that's ~ a movie...

It'll be your huckleberry. :)

Trivia - "Hucklberry" = hucklebearer -> coffin bearer. is the evolution I heard for that phrase.