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Life-Long Meal Plans... What the heck is a "broccolini?"
So, I don't care a lot about food. Unless it's ice-cream. I care a great deal about ice-cream.

But, "food is fuel" has long been my mantra. That's generally how I see it. And, in that category, I do acknowledge certain types of food to be "bad," so I don't eat them. A typical meal for me is a once-a-day serving of a couple of pieces of salmon, a generous helping of unflavored veggies like broccoli or brussel sprouts, and maybe some wheat bread with olive oil dip. It takes twenty minutes to make, is healthy as long as the fish isn't radioactive, and that's it. I'm fine with eating that every day. It ain't exciting, though.

I don't care about weight too much. In that instance, I can lose it if i get fat, so it's not really a big deal. (The secret is to stop eating. Win!)

But, I'm tired...

I'm tired of going to the store and not finding what I'm looking for or, sometimes, even wanting to change up what I eat and then... not finding anything that's decently healthy that doesn't take forever to make.

I'd like just some kind of set of meals that I can buy the stuffs for and be done with the whole "deciding" thing for the rest of my life.

So, once again I started searching the 'net for suggestions. And, they all start off with the same crap and then go decidedly psychedilic...

WTF IS BROCCOLINI?


"Our meal plan includes "Overnight Oats with"

WTF IS "OVERNIGHT OATS?" This stuff is so tough it's gotta get beaten up overnight before you can eat it? Why the heck don't I just chomp down on raw ^*&%* bamboo, then?

"Tuscan White Beans"

I gotta go to Tattoine? Wat?

"Jamaican Flying Snails in Himalayan Yeti Milk"

Oh, yeah, I love me some braised Jamaican Flying Snails in a gentle Himalayan Yeti Milk sauce...


I'm not even joking. It's that dang bad. Where's the "chicken, rice, and beans" menu?

It seems like all these sorts of "Eat this food to have the best, most nutritious, meal plan possible" is filled with arcane imported stuff you can only buy at an ethnic market or kidnap from a zoo.

I know there are "shakes" and "nutri-bar" survival crap foods. And, they're all mostly hype. Certainly not quite as exciting as a couple of pieces of salmon and unflavored steamed veggies...


So, now I reach out to Off-Topic, prepared to read even the worst of suggestions... (Which I'm actually looking forward to. I have no life.)

What do?

I just want stuff that I can find in a local chain-store supermarket that won't immediately kill me, isn't filled with artificial preservatives made from toxic waste, is reasonably healthy, has some variety in it, takes about twenty minutes of my time to prepare and won't turn my colon into the bridge at Khazad-dum... "You. Shall. Not. Pass."

Suggestions? Any dietitians out there?
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gugnihr eredeti hozzászólása:
Broccolini just means "tiny broccoli" in italian

So, young, helpless, broccoli that can't defend itself?
I love when women wear broccolini to the beach :heart_eyes_yeti:
TeamGunstar eredeti hozzászólása:
I love when women wear broccolini to the beach :heart_eyes_yeti:

You could be like one of those "Avante Gard" photographers and make bikinis out of food.

"Broccolini and Angel Hair Pasta Bikini, shot on 400, 35mm, volcano background."

Great way to pick up hot chicks...
Morkonan eredeti hozzászólása:
TeamGunstar eredeti hozzászólása:
I love when women wear broccolini to the beach :heart_eyes_yeti:

You could be like one of those "Avante Gard" photographers and make bikinis out of food.

"Broccolini and Angel Hair Pasta Bikini, shot on 400, 35mm, volcano background."

Great way to pick up hot chicks...

I'm married, so no picking up. Lookie but no touchie.

God food has some weird names sometimes.
oatmeal but dont get the quaker ones with "natural flavor" get unaltered natural ones

they can be 80% nasty solvents like propylene glycol to extract their "flavor: also senomyx is "natural flavor" animalproduct
Legutóbb szerkesztette: HypersleepyNaputunia; 2022. jún. 11., 13:24
Morkonan eredeti hozzászólása:
gugnihr eredeti hozzászólása:
Broccolini just means "tiny broccoli" in italian

So, young, helpless, broccoli that can't defend itself?

Yes, sometimes this way of speaking is also used as a term of endorsement, when you want to suggest that something is of very good quality or that you are particuylarly fond of something / someone. Expecially if it is of small size, but that's not always necessary.
TeamGunstar eredeti hozzászólása:
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God food has some weird names sometimes.

"So, what are we gonna name this thing?"

"I know! How about "kumquat?"


Local Man Sent to Jail for Naming Food (Page 11)
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Morkonan; 2022. jún. 11., 13:17
Morkonan eredeti hozzászólása:
TeamGunstar eredeti hozzászólása:
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God food has some weird names sometimes.

"So, what are we gonna name this thing?"

"I know! How about "kumquat?"


]Local Man Sent to Jail for Naming Food (Page 11)
:laughing_yeti:
Fine fine I’ll calm down. Apologies.

It’s a type of encapsulating fat which forms in response to toxic exposure to various kinds of particles. Often as a result of elimination processes getting backed up and overwhelmed.

So the toxin gets into a fat cell somewhere and it’s converted into a holding cell.

Sometimes when cooking fish the toxin is evaporated out, leaving the lipid with holder behind. The body perceives the fat molecule during digestion but can’t see the holder attached to it. So it gets put into, say, the brain. Little fat nugget that it is. Just waiting for that toxin.

Salmon can eliminate these fats safely, but humans tend to take an aggressive approach which can destroy entire regions of the nearby brain. If they notice the toxin there at all. And since salmon can survive these toxins they flourish in areas with its presence. Many other fish are similar, water being water and all.

So eating fish is kind of like rolling dice near a cop car.

Anyway, the thick glaze inhibits heat efficiency and ceramics used to be an affordable industry which was phasing out all other forms of cookware. Such as copper pots, stainless steel, etc.

As the country with a controlling interest in the overall minerals trade the UK was kind of threatened by this. It required those minerals sales to maintain profitability and thus production on its colonies, which were the source of its trade relationship advantage. So when ceramics began to become able to be cheaply produced locally c1890, it was literally a threat to the British Empire. So they squashed it, renegotiated minerals prices to make thick glaze ceramics at least competitive with ceramics on an artificial bottom end, and ultimately forced local ceramics to become more expensive than materials from Africa. For no real reason besides making sure Africa continues to sell minerals at low prices.

Many fish markets are similar.
gugnihr eredeti hozzászólása:
Broccolini just means "tiny broccoli" in italian
Like Bambini mean small child.
permanent name eredeti hozzászólása:
Fine fine I’ll calm down. Apologies.

No worries.

It’s a type of encapsulating fat which forms in response to toxic exposure to various kinds of particles. ...So the toxin gets into a fat cell somewhere and it’s converted into a holding cell.
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So eating fish is kind of like rolling dice near a cop car.

So, if I get the interpretation correct, it's as if a cyst forms in the fish's fat. This works as cysts do, encapsulating whatever the material is that the body/immune system has determined it can't deal with. This material, though, is eaten and processed by the body and... somehow, gets transported to the brain where the body reacts much like the original process. The problem is that the tissue in a cyst is barrier tissue, evolved to cordon off infections and the like from the rest of the body, preventing the "poison" from escaping. It's why some/all? forms of such cysts don't heal and have to get cut out.

From your description, this is what is happening in the human brain, here, but it's not as designed to form such things and the tissue turns necrotic, instead?

(I'll now have to go look it up to get much further. :))

Anyway, the thick glaze inhibits heat efficiency and ceramics used to be an affordable industry which was phasing out all other forms of cookware. Such as copper pots, stainless steel, etc.

As the country with a controlling interest in the overall minerals trade the UK was kind of threatened by this. It required those minerals sales to maintain profitability and thus production on its colonies, which were the source of its trade relationship advantage. So when ceramics began to become able to be cheaply produced locally c1890, it was literally a threat to the British Empire. So they squashed it, renegotiated minerals prices to make thick glaze ceramics at least competitive with ceramics on an artificial bottom end, and ultimately forced local ceramics to become more expensive than materials from Africa. For no real reason besides making sure Africa continues to sell minerals at low prices.

Many fish markets are similar.

Ah... I remember something about the pottery controversy in that period from history class, but don't recall the exact bits. I do know, of course, of the significance of pottery in the UK, especially in certain regions. Can't remember the darn famous region, atm... Maybe the fish-fat got to my brain? :)

Yeah, fish is a commodity and competition is fierce. In the U.S., it's heavily regulated like it is in many developed countries. But... it's a hairy beast of a commodity, with lots of shady doings going on.

I check into this stuff and see what I can find out. Thanks!
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Morkonan; 2022. jún. 11., 14:41
Sorry - I reflexively hit the quote button instead of the edit button. Instead of deleting and editing the above, I'll leave it here.

Followup Edit:

I couldn't find anything that had information regarding your statements about salmon and detrimental effects on the human brain from salmon fat.

This is a pretty good summation of what I found from various good sources. I link it just because it covers a broader range of topics than most of the articles and studies I found:

https://www.eatthis.com/news-side-effects-eating-farmed-salmon/

Some of reads like an ad for that "Farm Raised" company, but I think some of that may be pushback from some criticisms some farm-raised producers have gotten from UK groups/agencies. In any case, what's there seems mirrored in more specialty articles.

Of fats in salmon, Omega-6, containing GLA, is the most worrying sort, but it's also in many other foods including popular nuts/vegetables. (gamma-linolenic acid) Too much of this raises certain health risks. As the article suggests, eating that in moderation and even basically scraping off excess fat would be a good solution, there.

Of toxins, by far mercury is the larger concern. Microplastics are as well for all sorts of salmon raised in an ocean environment.

Eating salmon liver, brain, and maybe very fatty salmon, like more farm raised salmon may be, might increase one's potential exposure to certain toxins and GLA from Omega-6, from what I can tell at first glance.

But, the thing is, aside from specific known toxin risks, the rest of any natural worries like GLA and Omega-6, are present in many other popular food sources. And, even those can contain contaminants and toxins, so... Overall, as the article points out, which I thought was important, the benefits here of salmon as a food far outweigh potential downsides.

I couldn't find anything describing specific brain/toxin interaction being the result of some fat/lipid carrying. Other than what we already know about mercury, lead, and some other toxic substances. /shrug
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Morkonan; 2022. jún. 11., 15:48
The simplest way to look at them is as misfolded proteins, like omega 6.1 alpha or something. Just total jank of a patch. So if the brain doesn’t notice they become a cancer risk. In addition if they do then the body releases a targeted neurontoxin that kills cells in the area. And lets the toxin loose to maybe get stuck in normal tissue and repeat the process. Bunting it at the “discover the prototumor” phase.

And the fish can handle this much better. So eating them is like taking a super dose of cancer usually, especially with microplastics. Some species are okay but all species of salmon are at risk.

So a diet involving the wrong fish can cause a lot of problems, even if a little salmon cancer is…probably fine.

I avoid fish that hasn’t been canned, as the canning process often removes the most toxins through boiling.

Tuna’s okay except for the mercury, same with swordfish.

Mercury poisoning is a little bit more complex. It seems to be such a sensitive material that blood rushing by causes it to ripple at pressures high enough to lacerate surrounding tissue. So it’s more of a stroke risk, but will eliminate as long as one drinks clean water.

Crocker I think the name was. Common name in many places. Anyway it’s a quarry town with no stone left that controls the ceramics market now. Every time someone challenges the british hegemony Lord Monty Moneybags waps his wad of cash down and tanks the market. Every ceramics company worldwide gets wopped, and just figures it’s easier to charge Crocker prices. Meanwhile Crocker continues to dump glazed earthenware that’s kind of like if clay had a cancerous uncle everywhere at dirt cheap prices. “A perfect product everyone should have,” and it’s kinda of like how the Wootz steel market got tanked under loads of money and now nobody knows how to make some of the real deal cutlery people used to have.

Cutlery that maybe deionized meat.
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I've been waiting for you to make a thread in the OT.

Man, why you had to pick a diet -thing? : )

'Cause it can be entirely stupid, silly, relevant or informative... all at the same time. :) And, people don't tend to throw poo at "everyday things" they can identify with, like having to eat stuffs.

Plus, I was just then thinking about it after my physician had done the finger-waggle thing at me about "eating healthy." I eat healthily, but they assumed I was "standard patient needing grade-school lecture on why Big Macs and blocks of Cheese are bad for you." I just need to get in some exercise time, no problem.

And, I also need to remind my doc to look at my chart. Then, I can explain to them why they need to take certain things into account before making assumptions. But, if I do that, I'll be labeled a "Facebook PhD" or some crap... The ire I feel because of that also fuels some of this. (To wit: Certain issues directly impact my cholesterol and blood pressure scores that are completely beyond anyone's control, including mine. Doc didn't pay any attention at all to that and just delivered the standard lecture. /shrug)

There was some years that I didn't prepare any of my own food. Yeah, easy life but healthy? I don't think so. The amount of salt, fat and sugar in the restaurant food, phew. But Mmmm, the tasty burgers, stakes, wines and shakes. Damn.

I did that during a particularly "dark time." I worked obscene hours to occupy myself and only ate the "fast food" that one might find available late at night, on my way home.

...So diet conclusion - meh, probably not the healthiest one but works for me. I try to avoid all the merchandising and advertising crab : ) out there, and pick meat as fresh meat and all the greens and fruits as fresh as possible. Then cook and prepare something tasty out of them. Then there are wonderful meals like lasagna that I hate to do because of the preparation time it takes but I love the taste that it has.

Oh, and oatmeal and berries as breakfast. That and coffee. Lots of coffee.

I am a coffee addict. That will never change. They'll have to pry my coffee mug from my cold, dead, hands...

I remember doing the oatmeal+berries thing for awhile, then they ran out of berries at the grocery store... Sure, I could go to another store to try to find them, but we graduated from the Hunter-Gatherer phase like ten-thousand years ago.

So, why is it that I, a behaviorally modern human being, must now return to engage in distant foraging behavior and rooting around in strange grocery-store bins for sustenance?

Hmm... I could "order" my groceries online and have them delivered! Someone else could go out into the wilderness and root around looking for berries and raw plant matter for me to gnaw at! (The extra charge for this kind of thing is ridiculous, IIRC. Dunno, never done it.)

... Now I am thinking if the milking of Yeti is similar to milking a bull?...

An intentional double-entendre. Glad someone got it. :)
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The simplest way to look at them is as misfolded proteins, like omega 6.1 alpha or something. Just total jank of a patch. So if the brain doesn’t notice they become a cancer risk.

Ah, that's better. The original bit was "toxins" and the like, not "cancer." Gotcha.

And the fish can handle this much better. So eating them is like taking a super dose of cancer usually, especially with microplastics. Some species are okay but all species of salmon are at risk.

Yeah, I ran across a study on how the liver of certain fish species mitigates the risks to them. It went a bit deep into that, but since I was focused on "toxins" and other things like that being transported to the brain, I only glanced over it.

So a diet involving the wrong fish can cause a lot of problems, even if a little salmon cancer is…probably fine.

Yeah, the risk is certainly "relative." For instance, I am at risk for being smushed by a meteor desperately desiring to become a meteorite on top of my house. It could happen. One thing in that article was pretty germane - In terms of risk, frequency of exposure and degree has to be acknowledged. Even so, even just that "one time" can be "the one." But, risks like that are everywhere.

I avoid fish that hasn’t been canned, as the canning process often removes the most toxins through boiling.

Tuna’s okay except for the mercury, same with swordfish.

I tend to avoid "fresh fish," but more due to things picked up during handling as well as parasites and the like. An "open air" display case... isn't exactly a controlled environment.

Mercury poisoning is a little bit more complex. It seems to be such a sensitive material that blood rushing by causes it to ripple at pressures high enough to lacerate surrounding tissue. So it’s more of a stroke risk, but will eliminate as long as one drinks clean water.

That is something I haven't learned much about. Lead, a little more simply because it's a more common contaminant. Plus, I used to mold my own lead miniatures. :) (Probably why I'm a bit "off," maybe? Swiped a few I.Q. points for an army of cool orcs...) I'm not sure of the chelating process for mercury poisoning, though it is detectable in urine IIRC, so it's gotta have something working on it.

Crocker I think the name was. Common name in many places. Anyway it’s a quarry town with no stone left that controls the ceramics market now. Every time someone challenges the british hegemony Lord Monty Moneybags waps his wad of cash down and tanks the market. Every ceramics company worldwide gets wopped, and just figures it’s easier to charge Crocker prices. Meanwhile Crocker continues to dump glazed earthenware that’s kind of like if clay had a cancerous uncle everywhere at dirt cheap prices. “A perfect product everyone should have,” and it’s kinda of like how the Wootz steel market got tanked under loads of money and now nobody knows how to make some of the real deal cutlery people used to have.

Hmm... It may be "Crocker." There's a famous porcelain/china sort of name that comes to mind, but I can't darn place it atm.

Protectionist policies in history are no stranger to the British Monarchy and their chums. Or, vice-versa. :) <insertfamoustradingcompanyhere>

Cutlery that maybe deionized meat.

??

I don't see how that is possible. I'm passingly familiar with DI water, since we had a DI water system for production purposes with certain contracts. But, a "Deionizing Cutlery" would kind of be a misnomer? And removing charged ions from meat would mean dealing with lots of complex nutrients and minerals that people eat meat in order to get. Plus, the meat would be corrosive to certain important body parts... (I've never heard of such, so it's kind of hard to parse without additional info.)
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