Is eating smart animals wrong?

[Ash]

I mean I think most people in the west agree that it is wrong to eat dolphins. But squids and octopuses are just as smart. And pigs are pretty smart too.

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FOXDUDE69 eredeti hozzászólása:

Ad Victoriam ! eredeti hozzászólása:

Yes and not only that, you speak only about the "farmer" part, the animal who're raised for food. But hunting have also its traditions and load of fun events like that. ^^

Man, tell you the absolute truth. Ever since I played theHunter: Call of the Wild, I've been thinking about getting a hunting license.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/518790/theHunter_Call_of_the_Wild/

Man, I wanted to buy the base game during summer sale since I wanted to give it a shot (badum tss), but their bundle policy is absolute garbage.

[FOXDUDE69]

kilésengati eredeti hozzászólása:

FOXDUDE69 eredeti hozzászólása:

Man, tell you the absolute truth. Ever since I played theHunter: Call of the Wild, I've been thinking about getting a hunting license.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/518790/theHunter_Call_of_the_Wild/

Man, I wanted to buy the base game during summer sale since I wanted to give it a shot (badum tss), but their bundle policy is absolute garbage.

Why is their bundle policy garbage, bro?

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FOXDUDE69 eredeti hozzászólása:

kilésengati eredeti hozzászólása:

Man, I wanted to buy the base game during summer sale since I wanted to give it a shot (badum tss), but their bundle policy is absolute garbage.

Why is their bundle policy garbage, bro?

Their highest tier bundle isn't personalisable. If you purchase the base game, you can no longer purchase the complete bundle and have to resort to purchasing the other bundles (which used to be unpersonalisable as well) and various other DLCs not included in lower-tier bundles separately, unnecessarily increasing your costs. This also means no loyalty discounts for returning customers. Their bundle policy is screwing over returning customers and since the game lacks a demo, also people that just want to try it before dropping over 55 eurobucks on something they may end up not even liking.
Ultimately, it's their choice, but if you play the Paradox game, you better play it properly.

[FOXDUDE69]

kilésengati eredeti hozzászólása:

FOXDUDE69 eredeti hozzászólása:

Why is their bundle policy garbage, bro?

Their highest tier bundle isn't personalisable. If you purchase the base game, you can no longer purchase the complete bundle and have to resort to purchasing the other bundles (which used to be unpersonalisable as well) and various other DLCs not included in lower-tier bundles separately, unnecessarily increasing your costs. This also means no loyalty discounts for returning customers. Their bundle policy is screwing over returning customers and since the game lacks a demo, also people that just want to try it before dropping over 55 eurobucks on something they may end up not even liking.
Ultimately, it's their choice, but if you play the Paradox game, you better play it properly.

Aww, man. Sucks to learn that.
I bought the game as part of a bundle on Humble Bundle.
12 freedom bucks for the game and, at that time, all the DLC.

[Kobs]

Life is an act of consumption, it's eat or be eaten. We're lucky to be on top of the food chain.
As for smart animals, if you caught it or if you feed it and take care of it most of it's life "for food", you're smarter than it is and it gives you the right.

I quoted "for food" cause I'm sure some smart @ is going to say "oh, so we can eat our kids? " ; )

[Gus the Crocodile]

Kobs eredeti hozzászólása:

I quoted "for food" cause I'm sure some smart @ is going to say "oh, so we can eat our kids? " ; )

... So, people can eat their kids as long as they plan that from the outset?

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Gus the Crocodile eredeti hozzászólása:

Kobs eredeti hozzászólása:

I quoted "for food" cause I'm sure some smart @ is going to say "oh, so we can eat our kids? " ; )

... So, people can eat their kids as long as they plan that from the outset?

Imagine if humans were like hamsters.

[Your_White_Knight]

McGreedy eredeti hozzászólása:

Ad Victoriam ! eredeti hozzászólása:

Yes, there is a video about a monkey holding an AK given to him by some guys and firing it.

And ?

I've never seen a monkey able to craft one, but guys in their garage building rifles is a thing. Even peoples who aren't engineers are able to do it by trial and error. We're far superior to animals and I don't gonna let the guilt of some weaklings minor the greatness of humanity.

Im 100% sure that 99,99% of humans cant craft a gun without instruction

100% sure that 100% of monkeys cant craft a gun with instruction...

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Your_White_Knight eredeti hozzászólása:

McGreedy eredeti hozzászólása:

Im 100% sure that 99,99% of humans cant craft a gun without instruction

100% sure that 100% of monkeys cant craft a gun with instruction...

we still didnt find out how to give instructions to monkeys so we can only assume

[permanent name]

I think a monkey gun education pipeline could be made.

But humans are just so much more pliable, both physically and mentally. I think it would be more economical to get some orphans to do it. Rather than having to round up a bunch of monkeys.

[skOsH♥]

𝒜𝓈𝒽 eredeti hozzászólása:

I mean I think most people in the west agree that it is wrong to eat dolphins. But squids and octopuses are just as smart. And pigs are pretty smart too.

I think octopus are the smartest. Or maybe cuttlefish. The cuttlefish can just mimic its surroundings with adaptive camoflague....thats...like a zillion IQ. Well, it's not IQ, but imagine that they need to process their surroundings in order to send those signals to their exterior in order to change camo.

I don't think it is right to eat intelligent species who understand the human experience and nature more than we do.

There are those videos where you see animals helping people, and then I wonder why someone is filming the incident nstead of helping....

But some animals are incredibly intelligent.

Crows have photographic memory, supposedly

This evolution of nature has gone on for 4.6 billion years

Imagine the species in 1 billion years. I doubt humans would make it that long. Maybe we will, but we will have to be evolving and surviving of the fittest, so we can grow into "neohumans" without having to resort to computer processing units

[Your_White_Knight]

McGreedy eredeti hozzászólása:

Your_White_Knight eredeti hozzászólása:

100% sure that 100% of monkeys cant craft a gun with instruction...

we still didnt find out how to give instructions to monkeys so we can only assume

Which says something about humans... still not intelligent enough to give instructions even to monkeys...

[skOsH♥]

Your_White_Knight eredeti hozzászólása:

McGreedy eredeti hozzászólása:

we still didnt find out how to give instructions to monkeys so we can only assume

Which says something about humans... still not intelligent enough to give instructions even to monkeys...

Teaching a monkey how to use a gun would likely have them kill someone

[permanent name]

We’d better teach them about robbery and extortion using bananas as props first.

[skOsH♥]

permanent name eredeti hozzászólása:

We’d better teach them about robbery and extortion using bananas as props first.

I like the banana gun prop idea