Obito 24. mai 2022 kl. 15.53
Obito is the best Uchiha
This is a fact.
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Meat 24. mai 2022 kl. 22.25 
Itachi best uchiha
permanent name 24. mai 2022 kl. 22.28 
Itachi was also a ROOT graduate though, along with Orochimaru, Obito, and Kakashi.

Itachi’s awakening was artificially driven by ROOT’s research, which is how Kakashi got his eye as well as Naruto’s jinchuuriki.

Orichimaru’s immortality was an adjunct to that research, which he was cast out for helping with once Danzo was convinced that he was no longer loyal to ROOT.

Realistically the Hokage are little more than puppets and figureheads compared to ANBU ROOT, and most of them aren’t even aware of it.

Also Japan’s actual government works similarly, with a loose coalition of the JIS, Yakuza, and clan interests holding most of the real power they filter through the Diet. Any country with secret police are usually struggling with similar situations. For example Putin using the KGB to murder his political rivals and the FBI’s COINTEL programs, to name a few.

I can see how one would get confused though, the series went off the rails pretty hardcore for some reason.
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Meat 24. mai 2022 kl. 22.29 
Obito didnt know his parents obito was a tool from the beginning destined to revive madara in his true form or kaguya by being manipulated by black jetsu
permanent name 24. mai 2022 kl. 22.31 
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Obito didnt know his parents obito was a tool from the beginning destined to revive madara in his true form or kaguya by being manipulated by black jetsu

Same thing with Naruto and Akatsuki, which was pretty much Danzo’s doing as well.

Naruto’s squad mates and teachers weren’t picked at random.
Sist redigert av permanent name; 24. mai 2022 kl. 22.32
Meat 24. mai 2022 kl. 22.32 
Itatchi in my opinion was stronger than obito,sasuke and had great potential to reach madara
Protomesh 24. mai 2022 kl. 22.40 
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Itatchi in my opinion was stronger than obito,sasuke and had great potential to reach madara
Without illness, for sure and if he actually took his father's eyes, which he could've. He had talent greater than Minato's imo. All Minato ever did was really steal Tobirama's jutsu, make an inferior version of it and spam it the whole series meanwhile Itachi was way better versed in combat.
permanent name 24. mai 2022 kl. 22.42 
The Danzo subplot seems to suggest that willpower and willingness to sacrifice is what determines ones overall strength.

Itachi seems pretty high on that list.
Protomesh 24. mai 2022 kl. 22.56 
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The Danzo subplot seems to suggest that willpower and willingness to sacrifice is what determines ones overall strength.

Itachi seems pretty high on that list.
That's why Danzo needed a whole squad for Shizui cuz Shizui stronger than Danzo kek.
permanent name 24. mai 2022 kl. 23.00 
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The Danzo subplot seems to suggest that willpower and willingness to sacrifice is what determines ones overall strength.

Itachi seems pretty high on that list.
That's why Danzo needed a whole squad for Shizui cuz Shizui stronger than Danzo kek.

He’s an unbelievably weak character who relies on other people for everything.

But he’s also responsible for quite literally the entire plot, and every single legendarily powerful ubermenschen who dies during it.

Once he’s got the eyeballs he need to hold back in order to conserve power, but he’s technically capable of anything at that point. Within the limits of his borrowed power.

Power Itachi gained through similar means, just like every other major character.
Tiberius 24. mai 2022 kl. 23.03 
Pretty sure it's madara

Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu.
I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.
permanent name 24. mai 2022 kl. 23.06 
Right this power level stuff distracts from the plot.
🍋 Lemonfed 🍋 24. mai 2022 kl. 23.18 
okay ... the only thing I understood from the previous wall of text is popeye's spinach ... this is godly power right there , nothing beat the popeye spinach. :cocochan2:
Protomesh 25. mai 2022 kl. 0.42 
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He was just too desperate and went as far as to help with the creation of a fake world only so he can be with the love of his life in that world. He allowed himself to be manipulated. To me, Itachi is the true hero and everything he did was for the greater good.
if Naruto was born as the same age as Itachi instead of Sasuke, he would've prevented the coup and uchiha massacre with talk no jutsu
permanent name 25. mai 2022 kl. 0.55 
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if Naruto was born as the same age as Itachi instead of Sasuke, he would've prevented the coup and uchiha massacre with talk no jutsu

I think he actually dies and is reborn as Naruto? All roads lead to Naruto.
Roi 27. mai 2022 kl. 15.43 
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Isn’t he an orphan from one of Hyuuga’s unimportant branch families, and he’s artificial just like Danzo?
i know its a joke but u just pissed off a bunch of 10 year olds
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