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Kayhan Sep 20, 2022 @ 9:30pm
RTX 4000 Series is a scam
DLSS 3.0 is for RTX 40XX only, it won't support RTX 30XX and 20XX.

RTX 4080 has 2 versions, 16gb and 12gb.

The 12gb 4080 is a 4070 in disguise, it's a scam.

It's retty much confirmed since we know it’s using the AD104 chip, like the 3070 used the A104. That and the difference between the two 4080 models looks massive for cards with the same name. Nvidia just trying to make it look cheaper.

You know whats a scam too ? DLSS 3 could run on RTX 2000 and up.
The fancy optical flow accelerator hardware is there since Turing (RTX 2000) which supposedly a requirement for DLSS 3.0 which only 40XX fulfills.
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I said it as a joke before but now I'm starting to think it's gonna happen ,

someday these gpu will have their own power supply instead of using the same power supply that make the rest of the computer run.
Vault Hunter 101 Sep 20, 2022 @ 9:39pm 
No ♥♥♥♥, it's been known it's a scam since the first information was dropped. Even before the whole DLSS claims (also I would like to see how due to DLSS a game can go from 20 to 100fps, that's a very bold claim Nvidia)
secuda Sep 20, 2022 @ 9:41pm 
Originally posted by Kayhan:
The 12gb 4080 is a 4070 in disguise, it's a scam.

It's retty much confirmed since we know it’s using the AD104 chip, like the 3070 used the A104. That and the difference between the two 4080 models looks massive for cards with the same name. Nvidia just trying to make it look cheaper.

Probably a unnecesary uppgrade if youhave uppgrading from 3000 series, while those who are still stuck on 1000 or 2000 may benafit it more. but as a outright scam nah
eram Sep 20, 2022 @ 9:45pm 
getting a 4080 16gb on day 1. cant wait :)
Kayhan Sep 20, 2022 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by Vault Hunter 101:
No ♥♥♥♥, it's been known it's a scam since the first information was dropped. Even before the whole DLSS claims (also I would like to see how due to DLSS a game can go from 20 to 100fps, that's a very bold claim Nvidia)

That the RTX 4080/90 run games without DLSS on 20fps is bold of them to show.
Ghost Robertson Sep 20, 2022 @ 9:47pm 
RTX 4000 Series is a scam

You don't have to buy one then.

Originally posted by Lemonfed:
I said it as a joke before but now I'm starting to think it's gonna happen ,

someday these gpu will have their own power supply instead of using the same power supply that make the rest of the computer run.

Maybe a power adaptor which connects straight to a power board, but yeah, computers might start to get wacky one day. :DeadSmile:
Irene ❤ Sep 20, 2022 @ 9:53pm 
Don't buy it if you think it's a scam.

I'll check the specs and buy one.
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Vault Hunter 101 Sep 20, 2022 @ 9:58pm 
Originally posted by Lemonfed:
I said it as a joke before but now I'm starting to think it's gonna happen ,

someday these gpu will have their own power supply instead of using the same power supply that make the rest of the computer run.

I think rather we would push the PSUs to the limit, I've seen some epic 2500W PSUs on Aliexpress, now obviously these were some massive fire hazard but the fact that a PSU that can technically get so much power says a lot about future
ZAP Sep 21, 2022 @ 7:26am 
With how shady Nvidia is constantly proving themselves and these ridiculous price increases all Radeon has to do is have a decent performance increase and keep last gen pricing to shake the market up.

It's obvious Nvidia thinks they're untouchable, even after losing all that money on ARM and also at the foundries for this upcoming gen. What a horrible company who's raging fanboys are a stain on the tech industry.
kilésengati Sep 21, 2022 @ 7:49am 
I bet older cards are artificially locked out of DLSS 3.0 and not because they absolutely can't handle it. After all, GTX cards are also capable of real-time ray-tracing, they are just not very good at it. It would be a typical Nvidia marketing move for when they know their products aren't that good anymore. What a waste of resources! What exactly is the benefit of DLSS 3.0 anyway?
Besides, when it comes to processing power, an RTX 3080 boasts plenty and has 16 gigs of VRAM also. Even if I where in the market, why would I choose a next-gen card that doesn't even have that much more to offer over a current one, as I'm mostly interested in loading more stuff into my GPU's VRAM rather than raw processing power. (Maybe I'm odd?)
This is especially true when looking at the prices of these things and the power they draw.

Nvidias craptastic marketing, them touting Meta, their bs product lineup and their half-arsed approach on open-sourcing their software increasingly turns me away from them.

I'm not currently in the market for a GPU, but next time, I will be considering AMD (or even Intel) first.
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Dutchgamer1982 Sep 21, 2022 @ 7:56am 
I wonder when we will get a proper 80W TDP gpu again...

-a passive cooled gpu is nice for a fully passive pc (even if not the main it is a nice gimmick)

that after the kalmX 1650 never a better passive cooled gpu was made is a sad situation and a gap in current line ups.

as an owner of two 2080ti's in sli... I aint amused by the DLSS 3.0 trick played here....
Last edited by Dutchgamer1982; Sep 21, 2022 @ 7:57am
ZAP Sep 21, 2022 @ 7:59am 
Definitely going Radeon this/next year for the first time in a decade.

Jensen already has the jacket... A motorcycle, ramp, and shark tank are being hinted at slightly off screen.
kilésengati Sep 21, 2022 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:
I wonder when we will get a proper 80W TDP gpu again...

-a passive cooled gpu is nice for a fully passive pc (even if not the main it is a nice gimmick)

that after the kalmX 1650 never a better passive cooled gpu was made is a sad situation and a gap in current line ups.

as an owner of two 2080ti's in sli... I aint amused by the DLSS 3.0 trick played here....

Since iGPUs have become quite powerful in their own right, I think they've superseded this category.
SoCs suck though. With them, if one wants to have a new GPU, the CPU would have to be replaced as well. That's dumb!
Fostin4 Sep 21, 2022 @ 8:22am 
Nvidia has been a scam since 2019. Only fools will pay so much $$$ for their stupid overpriced toys. I'm satisfied with my 1070ti.
Good Night Owl Sep 21, 2022 @ 8:23am 
Originally posted by Fostin4:
Nvidia has been a scam since 2019. Only fools will pay so much $$$ for their stupid overpriced toys. I'm satisfied with my 1070ti.

Some self restraint can go a long way in life.
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