Have you ever met a fake gamer?

[Azami]

Have you met someone that actually pretended to be a gamer?

I think out of all the things that people try to be fake at (bodybuilding, kpop, ethnicity,etc) being a fake gamer doesn't really makes sense. We don't get any sort of clout for being a gamer nor do we even get any recognition from it unless, I don't know, if you want to pretend to be a twitch/ gaming streamer. Even with that it's not something worth pursing.


https://youtu.be/K4cmlhpupn0

[Azami]

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at a écrit :

Marc a écrit :

... I am only talking about people who pretend to like games. ...

That actually doesn't matter.
By definition, you're a gamer if you play games, not if you like games.

You're talking about pretending to "like" something, not pretending to "actually do it".
Imagine how absurd the "you have to [genuinely] like a thing to be a real participant of it" concept is.

:yellowsun: Does that mean that people who aren't happy about climbing onto roofs and installing shingles in the hot sun & cold air everyday, just to make a living / get an income, are "fake roofers"?
:garbagecan: Does that mean that people who don't like driving a truck around to pick up everyone else's garbage, or who clean bathrooms for a living / to get the income to support themselves, and dislike it, are "fake sanitation workers"?
:spaghetti: Does that mean that if you go to a restaurant, & try something new, & don't like the thing that you tried, that you're a "fake customer"?
:styx3: If you get sea-sick when traveling by boat, air-sick when traveling by plane, and even car-sick when traveling by car, does that mean that you're a "fake traveler"?
:iccake: If you're unhappy with your birthday party & don't like how the day is going, does that make you a "fake birthday boy"?
:red_blob: If you don't like your government, are you a "fake citizen"?
:dosh: If you sell stuff for a living, so that you can pay your bills, and only pretend to like it so that you don't come across as hostile to customers, does that make you a "fake salesman"?
:pug: If you'd really rather be an animal, are you a "fake human being"?


If anything, whether someone is "a real" something or not, should be determined by their amount of time doing it ...but that still doesn't make them fake either as we have words that we can use as adjectives (but most are typically nouns) for people who are simply new, & inexperienced to a subject : newbie participant, novice participant, intern participant, inexperienced participant, limelight participant, poser participant. Those people are all still real participants, though.

If you wanted to discuss posers, without it devolving into claims of gatekeeping, then that would have been a better thing to make a topic about then whether someone is a "real gamer" or not.
"Have you ever met posers in gaming?"

Of course they're real gamers.


:seewhatyoudid:

True. But that would also depend on YOUR definition of a gamer and also knowing what type of context/connotation was used for the word gamer.

When you hear gamer, you don't automatically assume " Oh I bet he plays games but doesn't like them." No of course not, because it would be absurd to think that and not to mention no one does something they don't like unless it's part of their job. Which... sure I guess you can call someone a gamer even though they hate it and are only doing it for youtube money. But still, no one thinks like that when they hear someone is a gamer.

But anyways, if you hear someone that is a gamer, generally you would assume "Oh he enjoys gaming" since gaming is usually enjoyed as a hobby.

And even if I did use the word poser in the title, wouldn't I be gatekeeping as well between being a poser and not-a-poser?

Now sure, maybe I did use the wrong term and should have used poser. That's just how I associate the word "fake gamer" with someone who only pretends to like videogames.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

Marc a écrit :

...
When you hear gamer, you don't automatically assume " Oh I bet he plays games but doesn't like them."
...
But anyways, if you hear someone that is a gamer, generally you would assume "Oh he enjoys gaming" since gaming is usually enjoyed as a hobby.
...

Adjectives are nice. Like... REALLY nice!

If people mean "pro gamer", or "expert gamer", or "fast-reflex gamer", or "genius gamer", then that's what they should say, as "gamer" by itself has it's own meaning that is a bit more broad in scope.

That's just the way language works, & as a linguist, I wouldn't have it any other way when people can just not be lazy & say 2 more syllables that more clearly communicate what they mean, rather than setting expectations that remove the ability to speak in more generalized terms.



...but that's not actually refuting that sentence of yours, either, as pro-gamers & expert gamers may be unhealthily obsessed with the game & thus don't actually "like" them either.
( I mean, have you SEEN how angry some of these guys get when they lose?! *lol* )

If the point is JUST that someone likes them, then they don't even have to be good at the game.

Like, if you die to the first Goomba in world 1-1 over and over again but are enjoying this gameplay loop, then I guess in accordance with what you've just said, they're a "true gamer" because they were just so happy with the flashing lights & doing that thing that big sister, or uh... their girlfriend does.

We have adjectives for this too, though :

"passionate gamer", or "easily entertained", or "stupid gamer", or "happy gamer"

[BossGalaga]

Marc a écrit :

I think people seem to forget that the video I posted is just a reference. People also seem to think that my post is some form of gate keeping or being sexist.

It absolutely IS gatekeeping and sexist, but you're claiming it's not fair to criticize you for posting low-effort troll posts?

Marc a écrit :

Which is obviously not what my post is supposed to be about. I know for a FACT that if the video I chose (which I picked at random mind you) only had males, no one would care or bat an eye.

Oh? Where is this TikTok compilation of male-only "fake gamers?"

Marc a écrit :

I am only talking about people who pretend to like games.

Also, no one is talking about being a "true gamer." People that play videogames in general and genuinely enjoy them are gamers. Doesn't matter if they play only one game, only console games, on PC games, only mobile games, or whatever.

So now it sounds like you're admitting that you're gatekeeping and that this video is full of crap. Well, glad we could clear that up.

Marc a écrit :

"You play halo 3?"
"Yeah I have it on ps3."

I've heard similar things.

Oh, really? And which one of the women featured in this video said that they play Halo on a PS3?

Marc a écrit :

But anyways, if you hear someone that is a gamer, generally you would assume "Oh he enjoys gaming" since gaming is usually enjoyed as a hobby.

And even if I did use the word poser in the title, wouldn't I be gatekeeping as well between being a poser and not-a-poser?

Now sure, maybe I did use the wrong term and should have used poser. That's just how I associate the word "fake gamer" with someone who only pretends to like videogames.

Look at your own Steam account, only a handful of games, and barely played. It sounds like according to your own comments here, that would make you one of these "fake gamers" or "posers" that you're talking about. Seems a bit ironic/hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

BossGalaga a écrit :

Marc a écrit :

...

...
Look at your own Steam account, only a handful of games, and barely played. It sounds like according to your own comments here, that would make you one of these "fake gamers" or "posers" that you're talking about. Seems a bit ironic/hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

Poser is a well-defined word too & your counter-claim doesn't make sense either.

What does having a large library have to do with being a poser if you're not boasting about your large library, or not taking photos in-front of the stack of game boxes, or not performing wild expressions & dialogue in front of a camera or audience while the games-library is displayed behind you?

[BossGalaga]

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at a écrit :

BossGalaga a écrit :

...
Look at your own Steam account, only a handful of games, and barely played. It sounds like according to your own comments here, that would make you one of these "fake gamers" or "posers" that you're talking about. Seems a bit ironic/hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

Poser is a well-defined word too & your counter-claim doesn't make sense either.

What does having a large library have to do with being a poser if you're not boasting about your large library, or not taking photos in-front of the stack of game boxes, or not performing wild expressions & dialogue in front of a camera or audience while the games-library is displayed behind you?


:thepro:

Personally, I would not claim that you need to have X games to be a "true gamer" but I'm just going off of OP's own comments in this thread.

[Azami]

BossGalaga a écrit :

Marc a écrit :

I think people seem to forget that the video I posted is just a reference. People also seem to think that my post is some form of gate keeping or being sexist.

It absolutely IS gatekeeping and sexist, but you're claiming it's not fair to criticize you for posting low-effort troll posts?

Marc a écrit :

Which is obviously not what my post is supposed to be about. I know for a FACT that if the video I chose (which I picked at random mind you) only had males, no one would care or bat an eye.

Oh? Where is this TikTok compilation of male-only "fake gamers?"

Marc a écrit :

I am only talking about people who pretend to like games.

Also, no one is talking about being a "true gamer." People that play videogames in general and genuinely enjoy them are gamers. Doesn't matter if they play only one game, only console games, on PC games, only mobile games, or whatever.

So now it sounds like you're admitting that you're gatekeeping and that this video is full of crap. Well, glad we could clear that up.

Marc a écrit :

"You play halo 3?"
"Yeah I have it on ps3."

I've heard similar things.

Oh, really? And which one of the women featured in this video said that they play Halo on a PS3?

Marc a écrit :

But anyways, if you hear someone that is a gamer, generally you would assume "Oh he enjoys gaming" since gaming is usually enjoyed as a hobby.

And even if I did use the word poser in the title, wouldn't I be gatekeeping as well between being a poser and not-a-poser?

Now sure, maybe I did use the wrong term and should have used poser. That's just how I associate the word "fake gamer" with someone who only pretends to like videogames.

Look at your own Steam account, only a handful of games, and barely played. It sounds like according to your own comments here, that would make you one of these "fake gamers" or "posers" that you're talking about. Seems a bit ironic/hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

I had gaming addiction. Does that count? This is an old steam account that I made but never used. I used to have another, main steam account that I had since 2014. But you most likely don't care and really I don't have time to reply all the things you said but to say that you completely misunderstood my post as well as some of the other people on here. Just look at my other replies because I don't want to repeat myself.

[Azami]

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at a écrit :

Marc a écrit :

...
When you hear gamer, you don't automatically assume " Oh I bet he plays games but doesn't like them."
...
But anyways, if you hear someone that is a gamer, generally you would assume "Oh he enjoys gaming" since gaming is usually enjoyed as a hobby.
...

Adjectives are nice. Like... REALLY nice! :aiheihei:

If people mean "pro gamer", or "expert gamer", or "fast-reflex gamer", or "genius gamer", then that's what they should say, as "gamer" by itself has it's own meaning that is a bit more broad in scope.

That's just the way language works, & as a linguist, I wouldn't have it any other way when people can just not be lazy & say 2 more syllables that more clearly communicate what they mean, rather than setting expectations that remove the ability to speak in more generalized terms.



...but that's not actually refuting that sentence of yours, either, as pro-gamers & expert gamers may be unhealthily obsessed with the game & thus don't actually "like" them either.
( I mean, have you SEEN how angry some of these guys get when they lose?! *lol* )

If the point is JUST that someone likes them, then they don't even have to be good at the game.

Like, if you die to the first Goomba in world 1-1 over and over again but are enjoying this gameplay loop, then I guess in accordance with what you've just said, they're a "true gamer" because they were just so happy with the flashing lights & doing that thing that big sister, or uh... their girlfriend does.

We have adjectives for this too, though :

"passionate gamer", or "easily entertained", or "stupid gamer", or "happy gamer"


:seewhatyoudid:

No like I completely agree with you. I just want to make it VERY CLEAR that my post has nothing to do with any sort of gate keeping or any nonsense like that.

[BossGalaga]

Marc a écrit :

I had gaming addiction. Does that count? This is an old steam account that I made but never used. I used to have another, main steam account that I had since 2014. But you most likely don't care and really I don't have time to reply all the things you said but to say that you completely misunderstood my post as well as some of the other people on here. Just look at my other replies because I don't want to repeat myself.

You used to have another Steam account? What happened to it then? From your comments here, it sounds like you must have had a huge library. Do you need assistance recovering it? Or did you sell it to someone?

Here, allow me to help you with that.

Recovering a Lost or Forgotten Steam Account:
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/3944-4D89-1B3E-27DE

Recovering a Stolen or Hijacked Steam Account:
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/0A94-F308-34A5-1988

Of course, you don't have "time to reply." You would have to acknowledge your own hypocrisy. I looked at your other replies, and I quoted them in the previous post.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

Marc a écrit :

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at a écrit :

...

No like I completely agree with you. I just want to make it VERY CLEAR that my post has nothing to do with any sort of gate keeping or any nonsense like that.

I am reminded of when "Radene" told me that :
people on forums only care about [the meaning of] what you say, & not your intention.

However, I was very confused back then because the person in question was responding to an assumption that they had made rather than what I had actually written.

The thing is, though, his point, while possibly not applicable at that time, was a true & relevant one -- & that's the trap you've allowed yourself to fall into here.

[Azami]

BossGalaga a écrit :

Marc a écrit :

I had gaming addiction. Does that count? This is an old steam account that I made but never used. I used to have another, main steam account that I had since 2014. But you most likely don't care and really I don't have time to reply all the things you said but to say that you completely misunderstood my post as well as some of the other people on here. Just look at my other replies because I don't want to repeat myself.

You used to have another Steam account? What happened to it then? From your comments here, it sounds like you must have had a huge library. Do you need assistance recovering it? Or did you sell it to someone?

Here, allow me to help you with that.

Recovering a Lost or Forgotten Steam Account:
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/3944-4D89-1B3E-27DE

Recovering a Stolen or Hijacked Steam Account:
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/0A94-F308-34A5-1988

Of course, you don't have "time to reply." You would have to acknowledge your own hypocrisy. I looked at your other replies, and I quoted them in the previous post.

No because I explicitly said I don't want to repeat myself. Also, those steamsupport linksare not going to help because... I deleted my old steam account willingly :) due to gaming addiction. As for the replies... you only nitpicked a few of them without seeing my others ones but whatever.

[【ボス B o s s】]

*Checks Thread*

Show's over everyone! The fun police have officially arrived

[Azami]

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at a écrit :

Marc a écrit :

No like I completely agree with you. I just want to make it VERY CLEAR that my post has nothing to do with any sort of gate keeping or any nonsense like that.

I am reminded of when :mrp:"Radene" told me that :
people on forums only care about [the meaning of] what you say, & not your intention.

However, I was very confused back then because the person in question was responding to an assumption that they had made rather than what I had actually written.

The thing is, though, his point, while possibly not applicable at that time, was a true & relevant one -- & that's the trap you've allowed yourself to fall into here.


:seewhatyoudid:

Possibly. But then again how else would you describe someone something they're not? Either I used "poser" or "fake" i feel as though i will get the same type of responses.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

BossGalaga a écrit :

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at a écrit :

...
Poser is a well-defined word too & your counter-claim doesn't make sense either.

What does having a large library have to do with being a poser if you're not boasting about your large library, or not taking photos in-front of the stack of game boxes, or not performing wild expressions & dialogue in front of a camera or audience while the games-library is displayed behind you?

Personally, I would not claim that you need to have X games to be a "true gamer" but I'm just going off of OP's own comments in this thread.

Okay, I seem to have overlooked their comment about library-size.

I will try to find it but if it exists, then please link to the specific post in question by either quoting it or copy & pasting the post ID URL that appears when you click the post number in the bottom right corner.

[BossGalaga]

Marc a écrit :

No because I explicitly said I don't want to repeat myself. Also, those steamsupport linksare not going to help because... I deleted my old steam account willingly :) due to gaming addiction. As for the replies... you only nitpicked a few of them without seeing my others ones but whatever.

Really? That's odd, because you also said this in previous posts:

Marc a écrit :

I think i got banned on my old account but I don't rememer the exact reason.

But hey, whatever you say it is bud. The point is, it sounds a lot like you don't think it's fair for people to judge you by what games you play or how many games you play...while you're doing the same to others. But hey, you do you, huh?

[sus]

Yeah, they are called journalists.