what's your opinion of paid games with microtransactions?

[LoLou]

i think nobody likes to pay 60$ in game and have to pay more to unlock things like a battles pass

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

Siluva の投稿を引用：

Magicka の投稿を引用：

I don't care as long as they aren't pay to win.

If people want to buy microtransactions, be my guest. It doesn't impact me and I don't get why people care so much about what others buy. I just ignore MTX in the games I play that have them, it's not hard to.

Because it encourage devs to keep that way.
Now because of few whales, everyone have to deal with MTX so yeah, it does have an impact on others at some point.

that's the problem with Microtransaction , they can make almost all of their money from a minority of whale players.

in other words

even if there is only 5% of the player base that actually buy them , these players can actually end up spending much more money then the rest of the 95% players that don't like the microtransations.

[Siluva]

Lemonfed の投稿を引用：

that's the problem with Microtransaction , they can make almost all of their money from a minority of whale players.

in other words

even if there is only 5% of the player base that actually buy them , these players can actually end up spending much more money then the rest of the 95% players that don't like the microtransations.

Precisely, I remember an article (forgot the sauce tho rip) where game devs admitted that whales constitutes between 5% up to 10% of the playerbase, but the majority of their incomes.

Just watch how some streamers throws thousands of dollars into lootboxes.

[Devsman]

Magicka の投稿を引用：

I don't care as long as they aren't pay to win.

If people want to buy microtransactions, be my guest. It doesn't impact me

Yeah it does, actually.

In Ass Creed 4, for example, the game would not let me choose a mission because I hadn't grinded enough for Jackdaw upgrades. Not even the level was too hard. There was text at the bottom of the screen that said "You must upgrade the Jackdaw before attempting this mission."

And hey, what do you know, they sell a DLC that lets you skip this grinding. And it was a main story mission, to boot.

[Psychlapse]

If I've paid for a game upfront, I want 100% of the game with no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I don't care if I paid 60 or 6 for it - i still paid, so gimme what I paid for.

In a free to play game, as an example Path of Exile - I paid precisely squat for it and I can get 100+ hours for absolute zip. If I want to punt some cash to the devs its my choice. If its a good game, I will.

ESO is a game I play a lot and that's an odd duck. I have to pay for the game, and there is a ton of dlc thats also paid. On top of that there's no point crafting without the subscription, so it should be a big flashing red light, however - you can play casually for hundreds of hours just with the base game with no extras so.... hmmm.....

Case by case really.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

dlc=after at least 4 months imo renew the game show that the devs aren't pos who cut out content

day 1 dlc=a holes all of them

MT's in f2p=alright so long as cosmetic only. Hell i'll even buy a pack or 2

single Mt's in f2p=slightly worse but still okay

p2w mt's in an f2p=bad

mt's in a paid game=worse

single mt's in a paid game=much worse

p2w mt's in a paid game=horrible

random mt's i.e. lootboxes / gachas in any game=very horrible

random mt's i.e. lootboxes / gachas in a p2w game = just say you hate poor people and idolize jeff bezos and steve jobs while at it.

[Xedhadeaus]

I am okay with actual expansions.

MTX and Season passes are typically just a big wait for me. I've basically left fighting games alone, lots of other games from Namco because who knows when they'll drop a complete edition. Sony's been tossing out these editions later and their pricing really makes you want to always wait until they do... Gears 5 literally did the same thing this past sale, where the game and hivebusters together was 20, with basically no savings for people who bought the game already...

It's the same thing after it's all been said, just a different way to do it, and it sucks. I'll probably have to listen to the people who will say that after inflation games costed more back then... And completely miss the fact that a lot of those games were COMPLETE.

[Ailes]

I would prefer to pay more initially but not get a million DLCs and especially not microtransactions. The latter can be very invasive to the gameplay. I recently disliked Red Dead Online due to this, as well as felt a bitter aftertaste in Phantasy Star Online 2. The gameplay should remain... "pure", untouched by the constant question how the dev/publisher can stretch and grind and sell every part of the gameplay in the form of mictrotransactions. There is just too much at stake, namingly the simple - pure - fun of the gameplay.

Phirestar の投稿を引用：

I don't like microtransactions, period.

Not in paid games.
Not in free-to-play games.

There's no intrinsic value in them, in my eyes.

How would you propose free-to-play games finance themselves?

[Revolution Idol]

I don't like it, I've never liked it.

I would rather a proper expansion over little bits and pieces in the form of DLC.

[RRW359]

If they have an online component where they need to maintain servers, they are cosmetic-only, and they give you an option for private servers then I understand them. Anything less shouldn't be accepted IMO.

[RRW359]

Ailes の投稿を引用：

I would prefer to pay more initially but not get a million DLCs and especially not microtransactions. The latter can be very invasive to the gameplay. I recently disliked Red Dead Online due to this, as well as felt a bitter aftertaste in Phantasy Star Online 2. The gameplay should remain... "pure", untouched by the constant question how the dev/publisher can stretch and grind and sell every part of the gameplay in the form of mictrotransactions. There is just too much at stake, namingly the simple - pure - fun of the gameplay.

Phirestar の投稿を引用：

I don't like microtransactions, period.

Not in paid games.
Not in free-to-play games.

There's no intrinsic value in them, in my eyes.

How would you propose free-to-play games finance themselves?

Don't a lot do ads? Plus donations have worked well for a lot of free projects like Stargate Network Space Engine and 0 AD.

[nullpo]

As long as it's cosmetic and in multiplayer game I'm chill with micros in premium games. If it starts to affect the game like the culling rerelease then no. Also in my opinion single player game has no justification for micros, because in multiplayer I get ir, they need constant revenue to fuel the server.

Some says they hate micros in f2p game but what they negelct to think about is company needs money, otherwise those developers who make those game won't have jobs.

[nullpo]

RRW359 の投稿を引用：

Ailes の投稿を引用：

I would prefer to pay more initially but not get a million DLCs and especially not microtransactions. The latter can be very invasive to the gameplay. I recently disliked Red Dead Online due to this, as well as felt a bitter aftertaste in Phantasy Star Online 2. The gameplay should remain... "pure", untouched by the constant question how the dev/publisher can stretch and grind and sell every part of the gameplay in the form of mictrotransactions. There is just too much at stake, namingly the simple - pure - fun of the gameplay.

How would you propose free-to-play games finance themselves?

Don't a lot do ads? Plus donations have worked well for a lot of free projects like Stargate Network Space Engine and 0 AD.

Donations only works for passion project and for ads, well then you have the other party who dislike ads. Plus ads are invasive to your gameplay, micros if done right do not affect gameplay

[RRW359]

nullpo の投稿を引用：

RRW359 の投稿を引用：

Don't a lot do ads? Plus donations have worked well for a lot of free projects like Stargate Network Space Engine and 0 AD.

Donations only works for passion project and for ads, well then you have the other party who dislike ads. Plus ads are invasive to your gameplay, micros if done right do not affect gameplay

Cosmetic mcros in an online game are just ads for micros to anyone who hasn't payed for them. Also I'm counting product placement and banner ads as ads and those aren't too intrusive.

[Phirestar]

Ailes の投稿を引用：

Phirestar の投稿を引用：

I don't like microtransactions, period.

Not in paid games.
Not in free-to-play games.

There's no intrinsic value in them, in my eyes.

How would you propose free-to-play games finance themselves?

The same way that MMOs were able to be a functioning business model for years, long before microtransactions were ever even conceived of: monthly subscriptions.

[RRW359]

Phirestar の投稿を引用：

Ailes の投稿を引用：

How would you propose free-to-play games finance themselves?

The same way that MMOs were able to be a functioning business model for years, long before microtransactions were ever even conceived of: monthly subscriptions.

That's not free though.