what's your opinion of paid games with microtransactions?

[LoLou]

i think nobody likes to pay 60$ in game and have to pay more to unlock things like a battles pass

[TwisterCat]

引用自 Ganger：

引用自 TwisterCat：

Give an inch, take a mile. Each one of these things play into each other, they all need to be removed.

In your own opinion, have you any reasons as to why some aspects in gaming needs to be removed ?

Im only asking, as I like to listen too other people's reason and arguments as to why something is right, wrong or simple don't care.


I don't like any form of loot boxes because it's a form of gambling and I have seen first hand on how gambling affects a family.

Put simply, in multiplayer games, I don't think somebody who's willing to spend extra money should get an advantage over other players. Skins are an advantage, I've seen people argue many times that they're not, yet just recently, a certain skin set was banned from Siege's competitive play, because, ironically, it was pay to win. There's even been a couple controversies from MOBA games, it's not just an FPS genre problem.

Battlepasses are the pinnacle of disgusting practices, because unlike lootboxes, there's usually no way to earn certain skins on them without paying for the "premium pass."

It's one thing to have affordable skins, purchasable with a form of free in-game currency, lending a slight advantage. It's another thing to charge 80 Canadian dollars for a game, only to give advantages to people who spend more.

[LoLou]

引用自 TwisterCat：

引用自 Ganger：

In your own opinion, have you any reasons as to why some aspects in gaming needs to be removed ?

Im only asking, as I like to listen too other people's reason and arguments as to why something is right, wrong or simple don't care.


I don't like any form of loot boxes because it's a form of gambling and I have seen first hand on how gambling affects a family.

Put simply, in multiplayer games, I don't think somebody who's willing to spend extra money should get an advantage over other players. Skins are an advantage, I've seen people argue many times that they're not, yet just recently, a certain skin set was banned from Siege's competitive play, because, ironically, it was pay to win. There's even been a couple controversies from MOBA games, it's not just an FPS genre problem.

Battlepasses are the pinnacle of disgusting practices, because unlike lootboxes, there's usually no way to earn certain skins on them without paying for the "premium pass."

It's one thing to have affordable skins, purchasable with a form of free in-game currency, lending a slight advantage. It's another thing to charge 80 Canadian dollars for a game, only to give advantages to people who spend more.

i agree

[TwisterCat]

And I had forgot to mention that a certain E-Sports team had even purchased the entire set of skins for their players, costing about 100 dollars for all operators if I remember correctly. You don't spend that much money because you think it'd be a nice gift, there's clearly something to the skins that make them special

[LoLou]

引用自 TwisterCat：

And I had forgot to mention that a certain E-Sports team had even purchased the entire set of skins for their players, costing about 100 dollars for all operators if I remember correctly. You don't spend that much money because you think it'd be a nice gift, there's clearly something to the skins that make them special :winter2019joyfultearsdog:

fifa is p2w

[TwisterCat]

引用自 kelpie：

引用自 TwisterCat：

And I had forgot to mention that a certain E-Sports team had even purchased the entire set of skins for their players, costing about 100 dollars for all operators if I remember correctly. You don't spend that much money because you think it'd be a nice gift, there's clearly something to the skins that make them special

fifa is p2w

FIFA is a different kind of pay to win though, they're not even trying to hide it.

[LoLou]

引用自 TwisterCat：

引用自 kelpie：

fifa is p2w

FIFA is a different kind of pay to win though, they're not even trying to hide it.

yes, you pay to maybe recieve an good player, but problably you will never recieve the player you want

[Siluva]

I don't like cutting part of a game, label it as "optional" just to make it legit to sell it back to you at (often) ridiculous prices.

Especially on P2P games.

Remember unlocking cosmetics / characters trough progression? Good times.

[Devsman]

Depends on what you're counting as a microtransaction.

When I think of microtransaction, I think of "timesaver" type stuff where they sell you experience or in-game currency or something.

And those are total crap because if they're selling that, why wouldn't they make the game ridiculously grindy?

[LoLou]

引用自 Devsman：

Depends on what you're counting as a microtransaction.

When I think of microtransaction, I think of "timesaver" type stuff where they sell you experience or in-game currency or something.

And those are total crap because if they're selling that, why wouldn't they make the game ridiculously grindy?

timesavers, xp multiplacators, money and p2w things

[Samwise]

引用自 Devsman：

Depends on what you're counting as a microtransaction.

When I think of microtransaction, I think of "timesaver" type stuff where they sell you experience or in-game currency or something.

And those are total crap because if they're selling that, why wouldn't they make the game ridiculously grindy?

Experience and timer speed ups and energy system is their favorite type to put into a game, because those are thngs they can sell you multiple times.

[Shawyboy]

To be honest they don't really bother me anymore. I used to think it sucked paying a lot of money for a triple A game, then finding out there's microtransactions. One of the first games I noticed this in was Forza Motorsport 5 on Xbox one and it seemed really weird at the time, I thought how bizarre to buy a triple A game and discover microtransactions but now i'm used too it, you can prity much find them in almost every triple A game now, so it's a bit like whatever just don't pay for anything in game, doesn't seem like their gonna go away any time soon.

[Kargor]

引用自 kelpie：

i think nobody likes to pay 60$ in game and have to pay more to unlock things like a battles pass

Maybe I'm not familiar with the wording -- isn't a battle pass the same thing as a season pass?

Either way, no "micro"transactions for me.

[Siluva]

引用自 Kargor：

Maybe I'm not familiar with the wording -- isn't a battle pass the same thing as a season pass?

Either way, no "micro"transactions for me.

No it's quite different.

Season pass is a bunch of DLCs.

The battle pass is something in-game you level up by playing and you unlock rewards (cosmetics, premium currency, tags, ect ect ect) at each lvl.
Of course, you need to pay for the battle pass in order to have access to the rewards. It change every months (and you have to pay for each new battle pass of course, usually around $12~20).

[Magicka]

I don't care as long as they aren't pay to win.

If people want to buy microtransactions, be my guest. It doesn't impact me and I don't get why people care so much about what others buy. I just ignore MTX in the games I play that have them, it's not hard to.

[Siluva]

引用自 Magicka：

I don't care as long as they aren't pay to win.

If people want to buy microtransactions, be my guest. It doesn't impact me and I don't get why people care so much about what others buy. I just ignore MTX in the games I play that have them, it's not hard to.

Because it encourage devs to keep that way.
Now because of few whales, everyone have to deal with MTX so yeah, it does have an impact on others at some point.