Is it acceptable for men/teenage boys to wear makeup and/or high heels.

[Gamer0151]

I'd love to hear your opinion on this.

[Yavin Shikanoko]

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You are perhaps confusing two things. Actively participating in the LGBTQ community is indeed a choice but your sexuality/gender ris not something you cant change like if they were clothes

No, being gay doesn’t effect your gender, the term gay means a homosexual male.

This has nothing to do with, as you said “a hobby” which is apparently also what you think of the LGBTQ community.

Therefore it is your sexuality, being gay is accepting that you like males and are a male. There is no way around this. This is about as dictionary definition true as I can be. Homosexuality is a choice.


I’m done arguing with you, as a part of your community you’ll do whatever it takes to defend it, even if that’s just spewing bs.

The funny part is that I’m not even attacking your community, so you don’t need to act like this is some radical information. Choice is the act of choosing, that is fact.

Is not a choice

I never attacked you but ok

See ya then

[Fluxxation]

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No, being gay doesn’t effect your gender, the term gay means a homosexual male.

This has nothing to do with, as you said “a hobby” which is apparently also what you think of the LGBTQ community.

Therefore it is your sexuality, being gay is accepting that you like males and are a male. There is no way around this. This is about as dictionary definition true as I can be. Homosexuality is a choice.


I’m done arguing with you, as a part of your community you’ll do whatever it takes to defend it, even if that’s just spewing bs.

The funny part is that I’m not even attacking your community, so you don’t need to act like this is some radical information. Choice is the act of choosing, that is fact.

Is not a choice

I never attacked you but ok

See ya then

👋

[The Grim Reaper]

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If you want to argue with me, try to have an arguement.

I would if you provide something to argue about not made up nonsense

I didn't make anything up. But you have made up what I apparently said, just so you could attack it. Please quote the part where I said people are sexually confused because gays exist. Everyone reading this can see who makes things up.

[☎need4naiim☎]

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It's objectively not normal anywhere, I don't see how you can debate that
Is it acceptable tho? It depends on your culture, in some you'll get beaten up for it and in others you'll get cheered for it.
Is a culture "better" or "worse" than others? No, they're just different, so you need to know where you're standing and act accordingly.

Sigh... Finally someone who gets it.

He/she just wrote what we know. OP wanted to learn our opinions on this, not the status-quo. Everyone knows that you NEED to have a beard in Taliban controlled Afghanistan, if you are male. Then, this man needs to get rid of his long mandatory beard when he passes the borders to China where your beard will be seen as "a sign of being extremist and separatist" and you will be deported into a "Vocational education and training Center" where you will be forced to go through several suppressive training to change your way of thinking. I won't elaborate what type of "things" going on there. There are numerous testimonies that can be found in Web about these camps.

I mean; if you start to oppress civilians based on their looks, it doesn't have a LIMIT where this oppression is to stop, as i wrote in above examples from two totalitarian regimes. Hence, it is vital NOT to start to oppress people as long as they remain peaceful and respectful to other individuals and not pose a harm.

If a woman feels an urge to wear male clothes just because other women started to become manly, it is THAT WOMAN's problem. Freedom works for everyone if we can get rid of Totalitarian regimes and oppressive cultures.

[Turbo6MTawD]

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Sigh... Finally someone who gets it.

He/she just wrote what we know. OP wanted to learn our opinions on this, not the status-quo. Everyone knows that you NEED to have a beard in Taliban controlled Afghanistan, if you are male. Then, this man needs to get rid of his long mandatory beard when he passes the borders to China where your beard will be seen as "a sign of being extremist and separatist" and you will be deported into a "Vocational education and training Center" where you will be forced to go through several suppressive training to change your way of thinking. I won't elaborate what type of "things" going on there. There are numerous testimonies that can be found in Web about these camps.

I mean; if you start to oppress civilians based on their looks, it doesn't have a LIMIT where this oppression is to stop, as i wrote in above examples from two totalitarian regimes. Hence, it is vital NOT to start to oppress people as long as they remain peaceful and respectful to other individuals and not pose a harm.

If a woman feels an urge to wear male clothes just because other women started to become manly, it is THAT WOMAN's problem. Freedom works for everyone if we can get rid of Totalitarian regimes and oppressive cultures.

Depends on what you define as freedom.

Freedom is not having the ability to do whatever you want.

[Triple G]

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Freedom is not having the ability to do whatever you want.

Sure it is - You just can´t reach it for everybody in a society, because some actions would harm the freedom of others. So freedom can´t be reached in a society to 100% for everybody. But nonetheless the goal should be to reach the maximum amount. Or in other words: freedom in a society can´t really be measured - it comes down to the individuals and whatever they want to do / how they think about it.

[Turbo6MTawD]

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Freedom is not having the ability to do whatever you want.

Sure it is - You just can´t reach it for everybody in a society, because some actions would harm the freedom of others. So freedom can´t be reached in a society to 100% for everybody. But nonetheless the goal should be to reach the maximum amount. Or in other words: freedom in a society can´t really be measured - it comes down to the individuals and whatever they want to do / how they think about it.

No it's not, there's plenty of things that we don't want there to be freedom for, such as rape, murder, theft, pedophilia, organ harvesting and trade, human trafficking, etc

The question is what guiding principles do we want to use to set the boundaries of where those freedoms extend.

Religion has served us well for millennia.

[Morkonan]

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Is it acceptable for men/teenage boys to wear makeup and/or high heels.
I'd love to hear your opinion on this.

Here's my opinion:

Changing the title of the thread, which is the only place that gives anyone a clue about the purpose of the thread, to one that presents an entirely different question is not only disingenuous, but unethical.

If you're going to do that, place an explanation for your change within the OP, citing the initial title and your reasons for changing it to an entirely different question.

[Turbo6MTawD]

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Is it acceptable for men/teenage boys to wear makeup and/or high heels.
I'd love to hear your opinion on this.

Here's my opinion:

Changing the title of the thread, which is the only place that gives anyone a clue about the purpose of the thread, to one that presents an entirely different question is not only disingenuous, but unethical.

If you're going to do that, place an explanation for your change within the OP, citing the initial title and your reasons for changing it to an entirely different question.

This should be considered a form of trolling.

[Fluxxation]

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Is it acceptable for men/teenage boys to wear makeup and/or high heels.
I'd love to hear your opinion on this.

Here's my opinion:

Changing the title of the thread, which is the only place that gives anyone a clue about the purpose of the thread, to one that presents an entirely different question is not only disingenuous, but unethical.

If you're going to do that, place an explanation for your change within the OP, citing the initial title and your reasons for changing it to an entirely different question.

I was gonna ask why they changed the title but I didn’t really think much of it.


Thanks for asking first lol. I forgot.

[Triple G]

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No it's not, there's plenty of things that we don't want there to be freedom for, such as rape, murder, theft, pedophilia, organ harvesting and trade, human trafficking, etc

The question is what guiding principles do we want to use to set the boundaries of where those freedoms extend.

Religion has served us well for millennia.

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Sure it is - You just can´t reach it for everybody in a society, because some actions would harm the freedom of others. So freedom can´t be reached in a society to 100% for everybody.

How does what You wrote differ from what i wrote - and why to write it then? Just because "rape" "murder" sounds more violent than "harm the freedom of others"? If religion served You well for millennia - it´s nice for You - Your freedom of choice.

[Turbo6MTawD]

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No it's not, there's plenty of things that we don't want there to be freedom for, such as rape, murder, theft, pedophilia, organ harvesting and trade, human trafficking, etc

The question is what guiding principles do we want to use to set the boundaries of where those freedoms extend.

Religion has served us well for millennia.

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Sure it is - You just can´t reach it for everybody in a society, because some actions would harm the freedom of others. So freedom can´t be reached in a society to 100% for everybody.

How does what You wrote differ from what i wrote - and why to write it then? Just because "rape" "murder" sounds more violent than "harm the freedom of others"? If religion served You well for millennia - it´s nice for You - Your freedom of choice.

You said "sure it is" which is wrong.

[Decathect]

This thread has become absolutely obnoxious, unsubscribing I hope it dies.

Good luck friendos.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

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Yes, i know what it used to mean, we have however taken that word as ours, we use it to encompass all those gender and sexualities different from hetero and cis.

Being gay is not a mental illness

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the word still means the same thing. Being gay doesn't make you special, and doesn't give you the right to take words from a language and change their meaning to suit yourself.

And yes being gay is a mental illness.

Homosexuality appears in nature quite frequently, so, go sit in a corner or something.

[Dracoco OwO]

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the word still means the same thing. Being gay doesn't make you special, and doesn't give you the right to take words from a language and change their meaning to suit yourself.

And yes being gay is a mental illness.

Homosexuality appears in nature quite frequently, so, go sit in a corner or something.

Yeah Giraffes are gay mostly because few males will actually breed with females.