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Mr Jt (Gog is king) 2022 年 1 月 1 日 下午 8:34
Scummy Square Enix president knows people who 'play to have fun' dislike NFTs, but he wants them anyway
President Yosuke Matsuda acknowledges skeptics, but hopes that blockchain tokens can "decentralize" gaming….
They are doing this because they know that there are enough low standard people which just *consume product and get excited for next product*Indie devs are our only hope lads
https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/square-enix-president-knows-people-who-play-to-have-fun-dislike-nfts-but-he-wants-them-anyway/
最后由 Mr Jt (Gog is king) 编辑于; 2022 年 1 月 1 日 下午 8:43
引用自 Lemale:
Let’s face it, we’ve lost the battle. Bowser kept Princess Peach and is now charging us to see Yoshi, Luigi, and Toad. Microtransactions are so prevalent in today’s video games that we sometimes don’t even notice them. But, are microtransactions ruining video games?

Microtransactions, loot boxes, and season passes are slowly but surely ruining video games and there’s no end in sight. What was free content 10 years ago is now hidden behind a paywall and taunting you as a 9-year old kid taunts you when you’re on the floor dying.

Why Do Gamers Hate Microtransactions?

It’s easy to see why gamers would hate microtransactions. Oftentimes, you’ll get a basic free-to-play game that will charge you for literally everything else in the game.

Then there’s the case when you pay $60 upfront for a game only to realize that features or characters are missing, which is okay if you can naturally unlock them. But what these game developers do is, they’ll make you grind for countless hours until you basically give up and just pay for it.

You probably fall into one of two camps – you’re never paying for any additional features in any game out of principle, or you gave up a long time ago and you’re spending more money than ever before on video games. Who knows, maybe you’re even a so-called whale, and you’re paying for studio executives’ trips to Hawaii or their kid’s college tuition.

At least the Las Vegas whales get a free room and complimentary champagne or something. Video game whales don’t get anything in in real life, except looong credit card statements.

What Games Were Ruined By Microtransactions?

There are so many examples of games being ruined by microtransactions, from mobile games like Candy Crush Saga to AAA titles like Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. What started as a simple $2.50 horse shield add-on by Bethesda in 2006 in their mega-popular Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, continues to this day.

War Thunder
This free-to-play MMO war game has players grinding an indefinite number of hours to get a nice plane. Or you can fork out $10, $60, or even much more for a single airplane or another type of vehicle. A Reddit user calculated that it would cost around $9,500 to buy every premium vehicle in the game.

I understand that the game is free-to-play, but would you rather pay $60 upfront or spend hundreds of dollars over the years for new premium vehicles? I think we all know the answer, but the ship has sailed and there’s no putting the toothpaste back into the tube.

Star Wars Battlefront 2
This game came out and, well, things hit the fan. Star Wars Battlefront 2 came out in November 2017, but already a few days prior to release, people started noticing things that were way off. Since then, the game became a poster boy for microtransactions and loot boxes. But what exactly happened?

Many players that had EA’s Early Access Program quickly figured out that the main protagonists were hidden behind paywalls and that you’d have to play for 40 hours to unlock a single character. And it would take around incredible 5,000 hours to unlock and upgrade all of them.

So, how much money are we talking about here to unlock all the content? $200? $500? $1,000? You’d have to give EA $2,100 of your (or your parents’) hard-earned money!

The two-times most hated company in the world, EA, decided to budge and remove the use of real money after players started boycotting their game.
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Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 1:47 
引用自 Rupika
引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉
they don't have to put much effort in their game's, but rather push for more NFT to making a quick buck for little to no effort, which is one of the large points of pushing for NFT's in the first place.
Explain how this works. If they just want a store to sell NFTs, why bother putting it in a video game at all?
I did explain for most part but ok.

There open NFT market places they can list NFT on, they can either give it out, or sell it themselves, they don't have to make a store at all if they don't want to.

Why? Money it's not hard to figure that out, if it works in their favor getting people to support the market for NFT, then means they don't have to work as hard to push content as long as they're able to get people to keep throwing money at NFT, they get passive income on it. The creator of the said NFT can set the rates 10% ~ 50% for royalties for resells of the NFT token. Basically replace Microtransactions with NFTs and use buzz words, there you go, you have a reason to get people to spend more money on things no one asked for, now here the kicker, if don't know artificial scarcity, then means they can limit amount of NFTs this can be a factor on how people can value the NFT on the market.

Also it's not doom speech, just explaining it in clear picture so can understand.
最后由 Dr.Shadowds 🐉 编辑于; 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 1:54
Fostin4 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 1:52 
The problem with these companies is they are so out of touch with their fans, as a result of their fear of being outdated like Nokia. So they blindly adopt such fads.
最后由 Fostin4 编辑于; 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 1:52
引用自 Protagonist
No not a need for explanation.The downsides of such a system speaks for itself.Google the downsides of microtransactions than you will find your answer

If you have to Google it, & it's not just a link to a store page or pretty picture, then you need an explanation.

What do you think that you are telling people to search for on Google by saying that? A picture of a dog named or titled "microtransactions"?
No - you're telling them to Google an explanation by someone else who actually bothered to string words together carefully enough to actually describe an issue, rather than just saying, "someone else said it and you can Google it".

People say lots of things, & you should at least make an effort to cite which explanation you want me pulling off of Google unless you're fine with me just using the Urban Dictionary explanations.


:thepro:
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 2:39 
引用自 Pinky
Of course he does. These men in suits don't know the first thing about what makes a game good. They only see dollar signs.
tride and true first comment


there's a running gag the birds on an electric pole lines pyramid saying.

where the top crap on the bottom ones and the bottom ones get all the poop.


if the higher ups look down all they see is ♥♥♥♥.
and if the birds at the bottom look up all they see are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.




sadly games once they become tooo tooo big become not games but money making machines whose run by businessmen whose only goal is money. Forget art and fun it's all about the mula now. The dinero. The big bucks. The dough. The coins. The funny money.


imo just drop em. If these higher ups keep trying to chase the current hip trends eventually they learn the hard way trends come and go. Once the people move onto something better or the bigger seller of the year they lose both the new blood and they ran out the old blood long ago. So they're basically left with almost nothing to show and go into the red a bit if they don't change their ways.
最后由 Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 编辑于; 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 2:40
引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉
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The 2nd large point, is not having to take any responsibility for whatever happens on the crypto market as it's out of their control, meaning they're not obligated to take responsibility whatever happens like exchange getting hacked, wallet such as metamask getting hacked, scammers tricking you, phishing attacks, or had child use mommy or daddy credit card to do something that they shouldn't be doing, hence the whole decentralized idea, where one can not chargeback, nor can they fight back to get anything back once their crypto/ntf is taken from them. Yay decentralized market.
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This is explained quite well - what the CEO of Square Enix ACTUALLY wants is a decentralized market, not decentralized gaming.

By calling it decentralized gaming, he is lying to everyone, quite boldly, too.

What you refer to also applies to fraudulent activity conducted with stolen credit cards, & such.
So it's worse than just lying to the customer-base; by supporting NFTs, he is consequently, as a byproduct, supporting criminal activity.
This is a way bigger downside then the upside of a company just not being able to delete your digital items.

It could be argued that it is each citizen's responsibility to ensure that their own registered credit cards, debit cards, & other funds are secured properly, which I'm partially inclined to agree with but that isn't nearly as simple as those advocating to put it all on the individual citizen would suggest that it is. The upside is that when this becomes a prominent issue, most credit card companies will just lock the account of any cards being used for crypto-markets, however, the telephone verification process is disgustingly simple & insecure.

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉
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3rd reason is that only the creator of the NFT get the passive income, from all transactions resold of their NFTs, basically as long someone willing to throw large amount of money, that means more money 🤑 to them, without having to keep supporting it either. They can shut server down, and lose access to said NFT, but the NFT token will still remain for the end user that still holding it to sell to someone else, but would be useless if can't make use of it. Funny thing is token doesn't give entitlement to game files either go fig.
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You can decentralize SOME of the digital assets without causing your entire game to be part of free download peer to peer file-sharing networks (which are currently illegal but wouldn't be if their use was endorsed by the company whose files were being shared), however, that's not what is really going on here, now is it?

For what little it is worth, I'd be interested in hearing about the company that is first to start decentralizing DLC assets & multiplayer functionality via large peer to peer networks, rather than just decentralizing transaction receipts. That would actually hold some value to gamers if that is how they were using this system ...& I suspect that this system is CAPABLE of being used in that manner.

So, anyone who actually cares about "decentralization of gaming" rather than just "decentralization of markets", really should try that instead.

Of course, it would be a lot better if they just made games be licensed as CC BY-NC-ND[creativecommons.org] & distributed them on peer to peer filesharing networks in the first place, but... baby steps to the longevity & LEGAL preservation of games, I suppose...

...or big companies can just get in bed with (what is more likely than not) money-laundering schemes too, I guess.

https://www.google.com/search?q=this+is+fine&tbm=isch

...let's see how the FBI feels about that when the misuses get really bad & the people involved think that it "in no way could possibly come back to bite them".

I suppose it could potentially be used to allow people to re-sell licenses to digital games (GOODBYE DISCOUNTS! :garbagecan::greeting: ) but that isn't independent of the, likely to occur, financial liabilities that this causes by ATTEMPTING to alleviate accountability for fraudulent transactions, which :mrp:"Dr.Shadowds" mentioned.
(I don't think they'll actually be able to pull it off without some lawsuits ensuing anyways, though.)


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Natural Love 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 4:55 
Square enix is a shinking ship like ubicrap
Ganger 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 5:02 
引用自 Protagonist
Square enix is a shinking ship like ubicrap

Any proof of this or is this just the latest thing to hate on ? So many times have we heard this saying be it against EA, activison, epic and even steam has come under this sinking ship statement.
Castyles 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 5:05 
引用自 Rupika
Yeah. The kind that sinks upwards.
That's an opinion. Square Enix is not the same as it used to be.
Devsman 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 5:05 
More like rational Square Enix president knows people don't have to buy what they don't want, lol.
Natural Love 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 5:08 
引用自 Ganger
引用自 Protagonist
Square enix is a shinking ship like ubicrap

Any proof of this or is this just the latest thing to hate on ? So many times have we heard this saying be it against EA, activison, epic and even steam has come under this sinking ship statement.
Well the last remaining fanboys.A lot of people boycotting these companies already and this will increase with that business model.With steam i never heard that.Well the worries that steam won’t be here forever are legit tho but as long they have enough customers they won’t go anywhere
Castyles 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 5:15 
引用自 Rupika
引用自 Castyles
That's an opinion. Square Enix is not the same as it used to be.
Stocks aren't opinions?
They're getting backlash since the days of FF XIII.
Vault Hunter 101 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 5:18 
引用自 Rupika
引用自 Castyles
That's an opinion. Square Enix is not the same as it used to be.
Stocks aren't opinions?

The stock price nearly doubled since what it was 5 years ago.
Stock holders don't really game, they care about how company is doing profit-wise and all these scummy tactics (microtransactions, lootboxes, NFTs) will bring them more money
Castyles 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 8:37 
引用自 Vault Hunter 101
引用自 Rupika
Stocks aren't opinions?

The stock price nearly doubled since what it was 5 years ago.
Stock holders don't really game, they care about how company is doing profit-wise and all these scummy tactics (microtransactions, lootboxes, NFTs) will bring them more money
Indeed. And if one Elon bails the whole house of cards fall apart.
Castyles 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 8:49 
引用自 Rupika
And here I thought greater profits were a sign of a healthy business.
Do you know how many good studios were nuked by Square Enix? How many franchises they butchered? How many garbage are milked and kept and how many of the good stuff are buried and forgotten? (granted, there are lots of garbage buried, too, thank God).

It might be "good for business" but it's certainly not good to the ones who sustain said business.

More power to the development team and less power to the suits and ties. That's how a successful video-game company should behave.

And this is coming from someone who likes most of Square Enix's modern ♥♥♥♥, mind you. Get real.
最后由 Castyles 编辑于; 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 8:50
Castyles 2022 年 1 月 3 日 上午 8:54 
引用自 Rupika
Are you mad at me because SE is successful, and not a 'sinking ship' as was claimed?
Now you don't even try to hide that you're a blind fanboy. I'm done with this crap.
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