Why does anime have such perverse distortions of women?

[Sparky mark phillips]

Does anybody else think something is very wrong with this stuff? i'm not judging anyone here but what is the point of these depictions? it seems very odd. thoughts anyone?

[Vince ✟]

cause pedophile culture in its country of origin, as well as this basis being the excuse for its rampant propagation in western culture.

cause pedos
cause its just a cultural cartoon thing

[the vampire of time and memory]

The nameless Commander původně napsal:

the vampire of time and memory původně napsal:

it's an ever pervasive part of anime so no you can't have a discussion on it without mentioning it

It's rather annoying. As if someone will give them a medal for declaring that they hate anime.

not really, you can still like anime while acknowledging its bad parts, the person you were arguing with likes anime

[hehexd]

sex sells, you arent attracted to ugly people are you?

[Haruspex]

the vampire of time and memory původně napsal:

...you can still like anime while acknowledging its bad parts...

Right. Anime and manga is actually very big, encompassing numerous different genres and themes. Unless you just completely and automatically shut out anything animated and Japanese, there's probably something to enjoy no matter what your tastes.

I like to think anime and manga in Japan is similar to what cartoons and comic books in the United States could have been, if the puritans didn't get all "Think of the children!" and lock down those mediums with their religious codes of morality. We might have had a US comic and animation industry tailored towards all kinds of different age groups and interests. Instead those things are still largely considered "for kids", despite the efforts since the 80s to shake free of that appearance.

I mean, you can find American comics and animation tailored to adults, but there's still this stigma attached to it. You can't read a comic book or watch something animated as an adult without being thought of as some kind of man-child or weirdo.

[Mythical Ostrich]

I'm not a fan of anime. But from what I've seen both males and females often seem....idk, off? Maybe it's the art style and exaggerated personalities/reactions

[The nameless Gamer]

saranacX původně napsal:

The nameless Commander původně napsal:

It's rather annoying. As if someone will give them a medal for declaring that they hate anime.

If you don't want dissenting opinions, you might try a specialized anime forum. This is an anime-critiquing thread after all.

I'm not talking about dissenting opinions. I'm talking about people who enter a thread about anime/manga only to write "anime/manga is bad" or to insult the participants of the discussion. And if asked to elaborate, they usually respond with generalizing and blanket statements like "it's sexualizing children" or stuff like that. None of them offer a compelling argument nor constructive criticism. It doesn't happen with any other topic.

[Grynn]

Mythical Ostrich původně napsal:

I'm not a fan of anime. But from what I've seen both males and females often seem....idk, off? Maybe it's the art style and exaggerated personalities/reactions

Maybe you should watch more serious anime like Perfect Blue, Texhnolyze, Monster, Sky Crawlers, Jin-Roh the Wolf Brigade, etc.

[Mythical Ostrich]

Grynn původně napsal:

Maybe you should watch more serious anime like Perfect Blue, Texhnolyze, Monster, Sky Crawlers, Jin-Roh the Wolf Brigade, etc.

What's the one where a guy turns into a giant blob monster or something? Motorcycles are involved I think. That one was pretty mature and I didn't enjoy it.

[s w e k]

The nameless Commander původně napsal:

saranacX původně napsal:

If you don't want dissenting opinions, you might try a specialized anime forum. This is an anime-critiquing thread after all.

I'm not talking about dissenting opinions. I'm talking about people who enter a thread about anime/manga only to write "anime/manga is bad" or to insult the participants of the discussion. And if asked to elaborate, they usually respond with generalizing and blanket statements like "it's sexualizing children" or stuff like that. None of them offer a compelling argument nor constructive criticism. It doesn't happen with any other topic.

The thread itself is a criticism of anime, though.

[Grynn]

Mythical Ostrich původně napsal:

Grynn původně napsal:

Maybe you should watch more serious anime like Perfect Blue, Texhnolyze, Monster, Sky Crawlers, Jin-Roh the Wolf Brigade, etc.

What's the one where a guy turns into a giant blob monster or something? Motorcycles are involved I think. That one was pretty mature and I didn't enjoy it.

Akira?

[The nameless Gamer]

Eel původně napsal:

The nameless Commander původně napsal:

I'm not talking about dissenting opinions. I'm talking about people who enter a thread about anime/manga only to write "anime/manga is bad" or to insult the participants of the discussion. And if asked to elaborate, they usually respond with generalizing and blanket statements like "it's sexualizing children" or stuff like that. None of them offer a compelling argument nor constructive criticism. It doesn't happen with any other topic.

The thread itself is a criticism of anime, though.

Criticism is presented through precise points, not blanket statements. I thought you were bored with this thread? Make up your mind.

[agu]

Judging something based on generalizations is pretty terrible, that's like saying all TV series are oversexualized because porn exists. Same as racism, with anime you can't criticize the whole medium just because of a few rotten apple examples.

[s w e k]

The nameless Commander původně napsal:

Eel původně napsal:

The thread itself is a criticism of anime, though.

Criticism is presented through precise points, not blanket statements. I thought you were bored with this thread? Make up your mind.

I was bored with our previous argument, not the thread.

[The nameless Gamer]

Eel původně napsal:

The nameless Commander původně napsal:

Criticism is presented through precise points, not blanket statements. I thought you were bored with this thread? Make up your mind.

I was bored with our previous argument, not the thread.

In that case, care to elaborate?

[Mythical Ostrich]

Grynn původně napsal:

Mythical Ostrich původně napsal:

What's the one where a guy turns into a giant blob monster or something? Motorcycles are involved I think. That one was pretty mature and I didn't enjoy it.

Akira?

That sounds right. Maybe I just haven't found the right one, but I don't think it's for me.