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Killance Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:28pm
Sony better be putting their games on PC now.
Xbox basically dominates the market with the recent purchase. Unless Sony gets rid of the idea of console exclusive they're going to fail.

Bloodeborne, Demon's Souls remake, Spiderman and so on need to be made for PC now. Microsoft ensured that there is almost no reason to get a ps5.
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twiggy Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:31pm 
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sony doesnt need to do anything, theyre ahead of xbox and nintendo by more than double. xbox has to do all this stuff just to stay relevant with nintendo who is also ahead of xbox by double
Obsidian Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:36pm 
I'm a hardcore PC gamer only but I would not even justify that silly thought.

Conslows etc. needs its exclusive content for disconnect monopoly purpose if not for anything else and brand/platform recognition and one utopia gaming world would never... ever... work! :steamthumbsdown:
Killance Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by twiggy:
sony doesnt need to do anything, theyre ahead of xbox and nintendo by more than double. xbox has to do all this stuff just to stay relevant with nintendo who is also ahead of xbox by double

Sony literally lost 20 billion from the recent purchase. Xbox game pass has over 25 million subscribers confirmed. I think the last report is that Microsoft made 300m a month from game pass alone.

Can't call Xbox irrelevant. See more interested in Microsoft and Nintendo rather than Sony. Unlike Sony the other two are actually releasing games.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.in/stock-market/news/sony-loses-20-billion-in-market-value-after-microsofts-massive-deal-to-buy-activision-blizzard-knocks-its-shares/amp_articleshow/88998594.cms
Last edited by Killance; Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:37pm
Tencent > Sony > Microsoft, in that Order.

MS buying some IP's doesn't make them dominate the market. it's like comparing AMD with Intel...there are worlds between their market share. all MS wants is more range and user accounts/data for their future plans with cloud gaming and game pass. with the ongoing cost for PC gaming hardware the consoles sill going strong and there is really no reason for Sony to break a sweat at this point. they still own the best first party studios in the industry and MS just bought some trash but popular trash of course. CoD always sells, no matter what right?
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twiggy Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by Killance:
Originally posted by twiggy:
sony doesnt need to do anything, theyre ahead of xbox and nintendo by more than double. xbox has to do all this stuff just to stay relevant with nintendo who is also ahead of xbox by double

Sony literally lost 20 billion from the recent purchase. Xbox game pass has over 25 million subscribers confirmed. I think the last report is that Microsoft made 300m a month from game pass alone.

Can't call Xbox irrelevant. See more interest in Microsoft and Nintendo rather than Sony. Unlike Sony the other two are actually releasing games.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.in/stock-market/news/sony-loses-20-billion-in-market-value-after-microsofts-massive-deal-to-buy-activision-blizzard-knocks-its-shares/amp_articleshow/88998594.cms
ok but sony stills sells more than triple the amount of consoles as xbox, meanwhile nintendo sells more than double of xbox. microsoft stills suffers heavily from selling the least amount of consoles compared to nintendo and sony. sony and nintendo are powerful enough to do their own thing, whereas xbox has to jump through a lot of hoops just to be able to stay competitive at all
Barf Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:41pm 
I don't anticipate many more titles outside of Uncharted and maybe 1 or 2 more. After that it will be a few years before we see any high profile PS5 exclusives come our way.
Killance Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by Nokrahs:
Tencent > Sony > Microsoft...in that Order.

MS buying some IP's doesn't make them dominate the market. it's like comparing AMD with Intel...there are worlds between their market share. all MS wants is more range and user accounts/data for their future plans with cloud gaming and game pass. with the ongoing cost for PC gaming hardware the consoles sill going strong and there is really no reason for Sony to break a sweat at this point. they still own the best first party studios in the industry and MS just bought some trash but popular trash of course. CoD always sells, no matter what right?

Is that why Sony is removing their PSnow cards from the store and revamping their services? You don't react in that way if you didnt feel the pressure of competition.

https://frontofficesports.com/xbox-sales-grow-166-as-microsoft-banks-45-3b/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2021-04-28-playstation-revenues-near-usd25m-as-ps5-ships-7-8m-in-six-months

2021 they lost the revenue battle with Xbox. You can't call yourself top when you make less than your competitors.
ArtVandelay Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:44pm 
The entire reason Sony bought Nixxes was to put their games on PC. Don't worry they are coming.

And we will then get inundated w/ topics about how Sony is charging full price for games that are several years old.
Killance Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by twiggy:
Originally posted by Killance:

Sony literally lost 20 billion from the recent purchase. Xbox game pass has over 25 million subscribers confirmed. I think the last report is that Microsoft made 300m a month from game pass alone.

Can't call Xbox irrelevant. See more interest in Microsoft and Nintendo rather than Sony. Unlike Sony the other two are actually releasing games.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.in/stock-market/news/sony-loses-20-billion-in-market-value-after-microsofts-massive-deal-to-buy-activision-blizzard-knocks-its-shares/amp_articleshow/88998594.cms
ok but sony stills sells more than triple the amount of consoles as xbox, meanwhile nintendo sells more than double of xbox. microsoft stills suffers heavily from selling the least amount of consoles compared to nintendo and sony. sony and nintendo are powerful enough to do their own thing, whereas xbox has to jump through a lot of hoops just to be able to stay competitive at all

PC market counts as Microsoft gaming revenue. You do know that right?

Windows? Who do you think makes that?

PC/Xbox are the same and now cross-play all their games. Ignoring that is just ignorant. Likely why the game pass has so many subscribers now. Ps5 can't compete in those numbers.
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twiggy Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by Killance:
Originally posted by twiggy:
ok but sony stills sells more than triple the amount of consoles as xbox, meanwhile nintendo sells more than double of xbox. microsoft stills suffers heavily from selling the least amount of consoles compared to nintendo and sony. sony and nintendo are powerful enough to do their own thing, whereas xbox has to jump through a lot of hoops just to be able to stay competitive at all

PC market counts as Microsoft gaming revenue. You do know that right?

Windows? Who do you think makes that?

PC/Xbox are the same and now cross-play all their games. Ignoring that is just ignorant. Likely why the game pass has so many subscribers now. Ps5 can't compete in those numbers.
you said xbox in your title, not microsoft and pc isnt a console
Killance Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:53pm 
Originally posted by twiggy:
Originally posted by Killance:

PC market counts as Microsoft gaming revenue. You do know that right?

Windows? Who do you think makes that?

PC/Xbox are the same and now cross-play all their games. Ignoring that is just ignorant. Likely why the game pass has so many subscribers now. Ps5 can't compete in those numbers.
you said xbox in your title, not microsoft and pc isnt a console

Yes and who creates the windows program for your PC? Give you a hint it starts with M and ends with F. Game Pass is also on PC and those games on PC game pass can be played with Xbox game pass players.

Why I said Sony better start putting ALL their games on PC now. Don't keep up with the times you get pushed put. How Sega got kicked out of the console market in 2000.
Last edited by Killance; Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:54pm
APN34Z Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:54pm 
MS just bought Activision so 😁 Diablo 4 on Steam here we come
Killance Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Physickl:
MS just bought Activision so 😁 Diablo 4 on Steam here we come

And Xbox. WoW will no longer require their sub fee if you have game pass subscription.
Obsidian Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Blakkheim Kreygasm:
The entire reason Sony bought Nixxes was to put their games on PC. Don't worry they are coming.

And we will then get inundated w/ topics about how Sony is charging full price for games that are several years old.

Apparently, not for Sony's old titles, though, because JPI ported GoW and someone else is working on the continued support for HZD, and Days Gone is just abandoned.

Nixxes are more than likely porting Sony's new titles, and that is scary enough - e.g. Square Enix Avengers, DX: Mankind Divided, anyone?! 😒
Manny Jan 20, 2022 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by Killance:
Originally posted by Nokrahs:
Tencent > Sony > Microsoft...in that Order.

MS buying some IP's doesn't make them dominate the market. it's like comparing AMD with Intel...there are worlds between their market share. all MS wants is more range and user accounts/data for their future plans with cloud gaming and game pass. with the ongoing cost for PC gaming hardware the consoles sill going strong and there is really no reason for Sony to break a sweat at this point. they still own the best first party studios in the industry and MS just bought some trash but popular trash of course. CoD always sells, no matter what right?

Is that why Sony is removing their PSnow cards from the store and revamping their services? You don't react in that way if you didnt feel the pressure of competition.

https://frontofficesports.com/xbox-sales-grow-166-as-microsoft-banks-45-3b/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2021-04-28-playstation-revenues-near-usd25m-as-ps5-ships-7-8m-in-six-months

2021 they lost the revenue battle with Xbox. You can't call yourself top when you make less than your competitors.

If I'm reading this right, the two sources you linked are comparing Microsoft vs PlayStation, not Xbox vs PlayStation. Xbox made 13.3 billion vs PlayStation with 25billion according to those two sources you linked.

edit: I'm talking about PlayStation/Sony gaming division vs Microsoft gaming division which includes Xbox, PC, Game Pass and xCloud.

In terms of revenue, PlayStation generates more revenue. Microsoft even confirms this by saying with the ActivisionBlizzard acquisition, Microsoft will jump up to third place in terms of revenue, PlayStation being second and Tencent being first.
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