Is Valve gonna ♥♥♥♥ when GabeN retires?

[Chef]

I feel like the old guard at Valve is from another (better) era and I'm worried it's all going to fade away.

• Who is going to take over when GabeN retires?
  
• What's going to be the guiding philosophy of the company going to be?
  
• Will they still refrain from overtly cancerous business practices?
  
• Will they still support gaming on Linux?
  
• Is it gonna be the "Google: Don't Be Evil" thing all over again?

[Siluva]

“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

Let's just hope it won't happen.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Magma Dragoon:

Unpopular opinion, but Valve sucks now. Sure a lot of other companies ♥♥♥♥ more, but that doesn't make Valve good.

I would agree with this and I may have said this in the past but I am not gonna be a "heritic" anymore. :)

[Basarab Laiota]

As long as I can continue to purchase visual novels and dating simulators on Steam, I'm cool.

[Lambros]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Morkonan:

THE KING MUST PROCLAIM AN HEIR!

Couldnt we find how far cloning technology has come along from your post alone!

[Chef]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Magma Dragoon:

Unpopular opinion, but Valve sucks now. Sure a lot of other companies ♥♥♥♥ more, but that doesn't make Valve good.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tiberius:

Epic is already better anyway

Diposting pertama kali oleh LiMu Emu and Doug:

Already does lmfao

Superb bait. Everyone knows Valve/Steam is the best.

[𝕎𝔸𝕃𝕋𝔼ℝ]

The store seems to be hitting a new low each year already.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh 𝕎𝔸𝕃𝕋𝔼ℝ:

The store seems to be hitting a new low each year already.

how

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Pinky:

Diposting pertama kali oleh evangalway2666:

How does Valve ♥♥♥♥?

The better question is, how does Valve not ♥♥♥♥?

I mean, they helped to popularise lootboxes and have pretty much stopped developing new games that aren't VR exclusives.

there isnt anything wrong with vr exclusives

[Paratech2008]

So? Souls games are for the 3l1t3 gamers with mad skillz. Should they no longer be made?

[Chef]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pinky:

I'm just saying, I miss the days when Valve made regular games that everybody could play.

Why can't they develop a regular game again?

Knowing Valve likes to keep things on the DL who knows they aren't already working on something else?

I think Valve's success is a real success story that has allowed them to "work on the things they want to work on" without being beholden to some soul-less venture capital company or being caught in the cycle of having to release games regularly without collapsing.

Those "things that they want to work on" have really showed the level of effort they put into anything they work on. Beyond that, they're committed to a good product and trying to push the medium/industry forward (i.e. Half Life Alyx & the Steam Deck).

[Adversary]

The real question is not whether or not Valve will ♥♥♥♥ once Gabe Newell retires, but whether or not he decides to move the company to New Zealand prior to that. I recall seeing some speculation regarding that. If he moves the company to New Zealand, it will ♥♥♥♥ regardless because the only country more obsessed with becoming the embodiment of the words "No Fun Allowed" than…

• South Korea
  
• Singapore
  
• Germany
  
• The United Kingdom

…and…

• Australia

…is New Zealand.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dracoco OwO:

Didn't he did a Q&A about this very question?

Wouldn't surprise me as that sounds vaguely familiar. Much like the response to Valve having to shut Steam down being the removal of the DRM component to all your games, or something similar. I might be misremembering, I don't know.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Pinky:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Paratech2008:

So? Souls games are for the 3l1t3 gamers with mad skillz. Should they no longer be made?

I'm just saying, I miss the days when Valve made regular games that everybody could play.

Why can't they develop a regular game again?

because they already made the best games and dont want to fall short, obviously

[L1qu1dator]

Diposting pertama kali oleh 𝕎𝔸𝕃𝕋𝔼ℝ:

The store seems to be hitting a new low each year already.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Valve/steam ALWAYS has been evil!

before steam :

Your Retail bought PC games :
-15% cheaper that steam sales all year round.. and actual sales on top!
-came with great bonus items like posters, miniatures, charts, and fysical manuals even though as stated before these were cheaper to purchase.
-to protect you further you did have the right to return them at full refund upto 14 days after purchase without any questions asked
-these licences were full retail, meaning you were totally free to transfer them to a different owner either free (lending or giving) or for payment (selling)
-these games would not update unless you manually installed an update or installed an expantion pack for your game, meaning your savegames never got screwed up, and you easely could revert to older versions of the game if you so wanted.


than steam came along AS DRM on your fysical games.. you were now forced to register your games to a steam account.
-you still bought your games in fysical stores so valves price gouching was not yet an issue and you still had the nice fysical items
HOWEVER overnight :
-you lost the right to return your copies at all
-your licence was changed from a full retail to an OEM, revoking any right to transfer your copies to third parties without licence price dropping as well, as clearly this is a less valueble licence
-valve totally ignored any complains that this was unlawfull since the fysical eula packed with these products was clearly stating we should have those rights, and our national law states an eula cannot be changed after purchase even if the customer is lulled in agreeing to a new oem, for the law the original oem stays active forever.
-even worse, where before I could play 3 games I own on 3 different computers, or 1000 computers if I so desire, valve made it even less than an oem licence, as of all the games I own on 1 account only 1 can be played at the same time.. (and steams own rules state one person may not own more than 1 account or those accounts will get banned)
-and ofcourse we now had to suffer unwanted updates.. messing up our safegames and giving us different product than we originally bought one we may not like.
(if you ever suffered a paradox update ripping mechanics out your game to prepare for a coming dlc, or a rebalance of unit stats while you are in the middle of a 200 long campaign.. you know how that feels)

next phase : some germans actually sued steam about this and WON.. and thus steam changed it's eula.. stating now that all future purchases wera subscription not a licence ownership.
-> they did so by holding all your games hostrage.. unless you clicked accept on the new eula.. you could no longer play any game you already owned that was registered at steam.
**valve has always ignored the fact this move is illigal by law, and while any purchases made on steam, after this new eula will indeed fall under it.. purchases made before this date, and outside valves own store, clearly should not

and because many people are lazy.. and fysical copies steam drm forced people to make steam accounts anyway (as it was hard work to work around those copies and still play most titles you wanted.. kinda like owning windows 7 and preventing it autoupdating to 10.. most normies give in.. only dedicated people resist..
-so once enough of those suckers were sucked in.. they were to lazy and started to buy at steam store itself.. (despite these prices being higher.. for well people lazy and all that)
**
monopolising the many different brick and mortar chains that excisted into one monopolising platform.. that holds both users and publishers alike hostise...

that in recent years even the last vestages of quality control from valves end have been dropped and anybody and their uncle who pays 100 euro can publish a game on steam now.. is just the latest sad trick of what always was and will be just another evil corporation.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pinky:

Diposting pertama kali oleh ᚨᛞᚡᛖᚱᛋᚨᚱᛃ:

The real question is not whether or not Valve will ♥♥♥♥ once Gabe Newell retires, but whether or not he decides to move the company to New Zealand prior to that. I recall seeing some speculation regarding that. If he moves the company to New Zealand, it will ♥♥♥♥ regardless because the only country more obsessed with becoming the embodiment of the words "No Fun Allowed" than…

• South Korea
  
• Singapore
  
• Germany
  
• The United Kingdom

…and…

• Australia

…is New Zealand.

I don't know about that... Hobbits seem to throw some great parties.

nah.. parties are forced upon hobbits by unwanted dwarven guests who were invided by this weird stoner uncle you only met once in your life but who somehow things it is ok to force himself into your house while you were away and than invide his mates in to empty you fridge..