Slamming front door

[Aleddra]

I live in an apartment building. The front door slams everytime it closes. Now, i tried to fix it myself. I know i shouldn't have, but no one else would.

The idea is the top screw is the outer 70% and the lower screw is the remaining 20%.

Since it slams shut, both screws are ultra tight, before i even got there. Still slams.

Would loosening them even make sense? I noticed when the 70 degree turns 20 degree, the door "bounces", hard.

Should i just let it go? I know it's not my job and it's already bad without me making it worse.

[Grendalcat]

Maybe glue a little fabric strip in the door frame, so the slamming won't be so loud.

[GOf--=D]

what year you live in, there are soft closing mechanisms for doors that they mount top corner so the door would close soft and silent, get your neighbors together and buy that thing

[76561198356019466]

How old is the building?
I used to live in a really old apartment building and ultimately there was nothing you could do. Fixing might help for a day or two, but that's it.

[MoonC A T]

Цитата допису Aleddra:

I know it's not my job and it's already bad without me making it worse.

It's not...tell your landlord

[Enterprofilenamehere]

Цитата допису GOf--=D:

what year you live in, there are soft closing mechanisms for doors that they mount top corner so the door would close soft and silent, get your neighbors together and buy that thing

Problem with those is that if they break they can cause the door to slam shut every time it closes, which sounds like exactly what OP is describing. They aren't in place primarily to stop the door from slamming, they are there so that the door closes automatically (which is required in many fire codes).

[Morkonan]

Цитата допису Aleddra:

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Should i just let it go? I know it's not my job and it's already bad without me making it worse.

First, which screws and what type of door?

Why does it "slam shut?" Magic? Is there something else obviously associated with it "slamming shut," here?

Sometimes, pressure equalization and air movement in a building can force a door to slam shut. So, an entrance that has free flowing air corridors through to windows or outlets above, or just down through a large space, may have a large volume of air now attempting to move through the new egress - The doorway. Temperature can matter too, so a big volume of much cooler air is going to seek out that new exit to flow through due to a lack of resistance. Sometimes, air moving quickly across a doorway can create what's basically a "Venturi Effect" sucking air out of the building and through the doorway, catching the door and slamming it shut as it is drawn into the more rapidly, larger, moving volume outside. (ie: It's very windy outside and moving across the doorway, so it sucks the door closed instead of blowing into the building.)

Can you find a picture of the type of door you're talking about?

PS: Some external doors can be very heavy. In fact, some can even be filled with concrete... Some are hung in such a way that they must, due to the laws of nature, close. And, close surely. These are typically service exit doors that need to stay closed after people go through them and these tend to secure access to certain spaces. Those might not even have a handle on the outside, btw. But, some other doors do follow the same design principles, not desiring any other counterweight or force other than that of the door hung at a particular angle, itself. It's not a good idea to fudge around with that kind of design, especially without permission. :)

[Aleddra]

Цитата допису Morkonan:

First, which screws and what type of door?

There are 2 screws on the right side of the spring. Inside of the door. They would handle the speed the door closes.

Цитата допису Morkonan:

Why does it "slam shut?" Magic? Is there something else obviously associated with it "slamming shut," here?

I've tried playing with the screws a little. But nothing i actually tried seemed to make it better. These 2 screws are really tight, which would make the door close slower. I think i'm not the only one messing with this door. I got up in the middle of the night. I've had huge apprehensions, but i did get out of bed and loosened a screw by 1/8 turn. Nothing else seemed to help, so i tried something else.

Цитата допису Morkonan:

Sometimes, pressure equalization and air movement in a building can force a door to slam shut. So, an entrance that has free flowing air corridors through to windows or outlets above, or just down through a large space, may have a large volume of air now attempting to move through the new egress - The doorway. Temperature can matter too, so a big volume of much cooler air is going to seek out that new exit to flow through due to a lack of resistance. Sometimes, air moving quickly across a doorway can create what's basically a "Venturi Effect" sucking air out of the building and through the doorway, catching the door and slamming it shut as it is drawn into the more rapidly, larger, moving volume outside. (ie: It's very windy outside and moving across the doorway, so it sucks the door closed instead of blowing into the building.)

I never noticed air pressure using the door. Buy it's a bit.. tight as far as air goes.

Цитата допису Morkonan:

Can you find a picture of the type of door you're talking about?

https://imgur.com/wYWtK56

Цитата допису Morkonan:

PS: Some external doors can be very heavy. In fact, some can even be filled with concrete... Some are hung in such a way that they must, due to the laws of nature, close. And, close surely. These are typically service exit doors that need to stay closed after people go through them and these tend to secure access to certain spaces. Those might not even have a handle on the outside, btw. But, some other doors do follow the same design principles, not desiring any other counterweight or force other than that of the door hung at a particular angle, itself. It's not a good idea to fudge around with that kind of design, especially without permission. :)

I've tried to fix this type of door before, i never really got anything better than a door slamming. But... I think i can do this. i take the time, and i live by the door, i can hear... beta testing of the things i try. It's not a good idea, that much is obvious. I read about this multiple times on the internet. They would have the screw a lot looser than what it was set to.

It doesn't actually slams shut with a swing, it just makes a huge bang when it does close. I think i should check on my latest attempt, see if i should put it back. I never thought about a swing, there's a glass window next to the door, it's already cracked from before my messing around. I wouldn't want to have it break.

Instructions said tighten it to full and then give it 1/2 looser. I's been 1/4 at most. There's this huge bounce when it goes 20% from 70%. I never saw this on actual proper doors like this.

[Neurotic Panda]

Wouldn't recommend doing your own maintenance in an apartment. You could be held liable potentially. I'm not sure of the rules in your apt though.

Just get a rug and put it down. They keep the door from closing on it's own let alone slamming shut. Also good for collecting dirt and such before you enter into your 'home'.

[Aleddra]

Kinna hard to ignore. It's right besides my apartment. Also i'm sure i'm not the only one it bothers. But you're right, i should not take this kind of risk.

[Neurotic Panda]

If your door opens inwards get a thick rug and push it up against the door sill/threshold. The door won't slam anymore. You'll have to literally push it yourself to close. Then you can determine the force it closes with.

Good luck

[Morkonan]

I found this installation instruction vid for the Dorex door closer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q36pLS4AZAI

It has a brief bit on adjusting the closure rate on it. Recommended time is 5-7 seconds to close the door.

The big nut is tension for the spring, it seems. That's adjusted likely by weight of the door. (Dunno how they get footoounds out of it, but it may have some indicated markings.) The small screw he adjusts is for tuning it and would be what would normally be used. (Not sure if that pic is your door, but that plate looks like it was installed with an older closer. That newer replacement one may not be rated for that door?)

I wouldn't mess with the big nut. :) You don't have the chart that is mentioned in the vid.

Not sure if this helps. It looks similar to the model, but the cap is missing off the bottom spindle thing in the pic:

https://www.allmar.com/products/data/uploads/Canaropa_Door_Closer_700_Spec.pdf

(Dorex 700 model)

That might give you enough to go on to find out if you can do anything. Otherwise... if a few twists of that nut in the vid doesn't do it, call the landlord. (Note: That smaller nut is, I think, to adjust a sweet spot for the door activation range is, I think. Not sure.)

[Dracoco OwO]

Is the door ultra heavy? Also is the door close to the ground and have one of these things to slow them down? Because i think it's the only option you have there to make it slow down.

[Barney, from Black Mesa.]

Talk to your landowner.