**OPINION/RANT/VENT** On violence in multiplayer shooter games **OPINION/RANT/VENT**

[Kerry]

In case it wasn't perfectly clear from my topic header, the content of this post is my opinion, ranting and venting. It is not to be construed as insulting, insinuating, or directed at anybody or any group in particular or specific.

In my opinion, when regarding video games there is a line that must never be crossed when it comes to violence in video games. Specifically, a line that can get blurred and invoke real-world penalties.

I'm referring to realism. Guns in player versus player video games are too real IMHO, and in some cases are outright real weapons. It gets too close to real war, and in a kid's mind? It's real.

Therefore, in my views, any weapon that can be used in a video game mode to virtually kill another player should be anime-fied or cartoon-ified.

Like the early 1980s GI JOE cartoon, your gun becomes a laser rifle and fires laser pulses, not bullets. You wanna play GI JOE? Then fine, but don't use real ammo, and make damn sure that people know that that gun is not real.

Additionally, I want to make it clear that this THEORETICAL solution, IF implemented, should function akin to the blood/guts/gore filter in most video games of the Shooter genre.

That way you can still have your violent video game, and parents can be satisfied knowing that their kid isn't growing up to be a mass murderer like some scare-tactic mass-media people like to claim.

I mean, anyone remember these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY1KE502K7I

I'm not saying that realistic, violent video games should be banned. I'm saying that anything that looks like and functions like a real gun, should be restricted to fights against historical NPC enemies or fantasy enemies.

This would mean that games like Grand Theft Auto, EvE, War Thunder, etcetera; all games that are all PvP, all the time, would not be allowed to use real guns. Instead they'd have to have some kind of brightly-colored, NERF-ish part that says "THIS IS NOT A REAL GUN" to players. Fake guns, fake bullets.

Any game mode strictly against NPCs or bots (PvE) would be allowed to retain their realistic weapons because you're not shooting other players. But anything that is PvP gets modified to shoot lasers or something that's purely not real. And the guns get modified to have some kind of NERF-like coloring. Brightly colored orange components that scream "THIS IS FAKE!"


This also goes for tank guns and warship cannons in games like War Thunder, World of Warships, World of Warplanes and etcetera.

Violent video games can be quite fun, I'm a fan of a few of them myself. But some games against other players are TOO real, TOO close to actual war, for some parents' liking.

With this change, nobody will believe that the violence they're committing virtually, is actually real. Save the real bullets for PvE enemies, and set your weapons on heavy stun for PvP.

EDIT: Since some of you are misunderstanding me, let me reitierate: I want to make it clear that this THEORETICAL solution, IF implemented, should function akin to the blood/guts/gore filter in most video games of the Shooter genre. Additionally, I'm not talking about a MANDATORY change, just an optional filter that you can toggle on and off as you prefer.


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In case it wasn't perfectly clear from my topic header, the content of this post is my opinion, ranting and venting. It is not to be construed as insulting, insinuating, or directed at anybody or any group in particular or specific.

[Kerry]

The Tops eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, uh, I guess you have a right to vent your opinion... No matter how much it makes you look like one of those crazy Karens

Thank you. And with all due respect, I'm not trying to be a Karen. I don't want action taken, just suggesting something that COULD be done.

COULD, not SHOULD. There's a difference.

[TwisterCat]

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

Er, no. I suggest removing real AMMO.

Real guns, fake ammo.

Also, I'm not crying. Nor am I demanding. Merely suggesting.

Maybe you should "go cry about it".

You quite literally asked for it. I'm saying that's a terrible idea, so terrible, the idea shouldn't even be entertained, or wasted thought on. China 2.0

[♥Peachboy♥]

Kids should only play mature games if they themselves are mature.

You sir, are a prime example of what I mean.

[Kerry]

TwisterCat eredeti hozzászólása:

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

Er, no. I suggest removing real AMMO.

Real guns, fake ammo.

Also, I'm not crying. Nor am I demanding. Merely suggesting.

Maybe you should "go cry about it".

You quite literally asked for it. I'm saying that's a terrible idea, so terrible, the idea shouldn't even be entertained, or wasted thought on. China 2.0

False. I suggested it, I didn't ask for it.

Don't put words in my mouth.

[Kerry]

drmaskiert eredeti hozzászólása:

Kids should only play mature games if they themselves are mature.

You sir, are a prime example of what I mean.

Thank you. I do try and be mature about things. Glad I've succeeded.

[TwisterCat]

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

TwisterCat eredeti hozzászólása:

You quite literally asked for it. I'm saying that's a terrible idea, so terrible, the idea shouldn't even be entertained, or wasted thought on. China 2.0

False. I suggested it, I didn't ask for it.

Don't put words in my mouth.

Fine. It's a terrible suggestion. Terrible idea, and just as terrible in practice.

[Kerry]

TwisterCat eredeti hozzászólása:

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

False. I suggested it, I didn't ask for it.

Don't put words in my mouth.

Fine. It's a terrible suggestion. Terrible idea, and just as terrible in practice.

I also suggested it be made toggleable. So you can have either the violent video game with realistic blood and guts and bodily goop, or you can have something akin to GI JOE where the violence is there, but the death is clean.

[♥Peachboy♥]

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

drmaskiert eredeti hozzászólása:

Kids should only play mature games if they themselves are mature.

You sir, are a prime example of what I mean.

Thank you. I do try and be mature about things. Glad I've succeeded.

No. I'm saying that you're being immature. You shouldn't be playing these violent video games.

[Kerry]

drmaskiert eredeti hozzászólása:

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

Thank you. I do try and be mature about things. Glad I've succeeded.

No. I'm saying that you're being immature. You shouldn't be playing these violent video games.

And why not? I've proven that I can handle myself so long as I stay away from PvP.

[♥Peachboy♥]

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

drmaskiert eredeti hozzászólása:

No. I'm saying that you're being immature. You shouldn't be playing these violent video games.

And why not? I've proven that I can handle myself so long as I stay away from PvP.

Because you're suggesting stupid stuff like this

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

Therefore, in my views, any weapon that can be used in a video game mode to virtually kill another player should be anime-fied or cartoon-ified.

or this

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

This would mean that games like Grand Theft Auto, EvE, War Thunder, etcetera; all games that are all PvP, all the time, would not be allowed to use real guns. Instead they'd have to have some kind of brightly-colored, NERF-ish part that says "THIS IS NOT A REAL GUN" to players. Fake guns, fake bullets.

And especially this

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

Any game mode strictly against NPCs or bots (PvE) would be allowed to retain their realistic weapons because you're not shooting other players. But anything that is PvP gets modified to shoot lasers or something that's purely not real. And the guns get modified to have some kind of NERF-like coloring. Brightly colored orange components that scream "THIS IS FAKE!"

[Genvid]

drmaskiert eredeti hozzászólása:

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

And why not? I've proven that I can handle myself so long as I stay away from PvP.

Because you're suggesting stupid stuff like this

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

Therefore, in my views, any weapon that can be used in a video game mode to virtually kill another player should be anime-fied or cartoon-ified.

or this

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

This would mean that games like Grand Theft Auto, EvE, War Thunder, etcetera; all games that are all PvP, all the time, would not be allowed to use real guns. Instead they'd have to have some kind of brightly-colored, NERF-ish part that says "THIS IS NOT A REAL GUN" to players. Fake guns, fake bullets.

I was gonna disagree with you, but that does sound quite sily.

[♥Peachboy♥]

Analog Watcher eredeti hozzászólása:

drmaskiert eredeti hozzászólása:

Because you're suggesting stupid stuff like this




or this

I was gonna disagree with you, but that does sound quite sily.

I agree

[Kerry]

drmaskiert eredeti hozzászólása:

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

And why not? I've proven that I can handle myself so long as I stay away from PvP.

Because you're suggesting stupid stuff like this

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

Therefore, in my views, any weapon that can be used in a video game mode to virtually kill another player should be anime-fied or cartoon-ified.

or this

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

This would mean that games like Grand Theft Auto, EvE, War Thunder, etcetera; all games that are all PvP, all the time, would not be allowed to use real guns. Instead they'd have to have some kind of brightly-colored, NERF-ish part that says "THIS IS NOT A REAL GUN" to players. Fake guns, fake bullets.

Yeah, I figured it was those parts, which is why I edited that first post to say this:

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

Additionally, I want to make it clear that this THEORETICAL solution, IF implemented, should function akin to the blood/guts/gore filter in most video games of the Shooter genre.

[TwisterCat]

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

Therefore, in my views, any weapon that can be used in a video game mode to virtually kill another player should be anime-fied or cartoon-ified.

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

TwisterCat eredeti hozzászólása:

Fine. It's a terrible suggestion. Terrible idea, and just as terrible in practice.

I also suggested it be made toggleable. So you can have either the violent video game with realistic blood and guts and bodily goop, or you can have something akin to GI JOE where the violence is there, but the death is clean.

No, that's not what you said. You implied it should be "anime-ified" without a toggle, you made that very clear in your post, or failed to properly express your opinion in a way that didn't sound overwhelmingly authoritarian.

You're going back on what you've said now, because it's been tried/forced in the real world, and now that I'm explaining what an outrage it was, apparently now you only want it to be a "filter/toggle"

It'd be easier to just say the idea was bad, authoritarian ideas never end well for the people and their freedoms, and even though freedom has it's flaws, it's best for everybody involved.

[♥Peachboy♥]

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

drmaskiert eredeti hozzászólása:

Because you're suggesting stupid stuff like this




or this

Yeah, I figured it was those parts, which is why I edited that first post to say this:

Kerry Freeman eredeti hozzászólása:

Additionally, I want to make it clear that this THEORETICAL solution, IF implemented, should function akin to the blood/guts/gore filter in most video games of the Shooter genre.

I don't care, it's still stupid. And according to the guy above, you also mentioned that it isn't toggleable