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Plus, I don't want to be a streamer. I want to be a pro gamer. I want to go to tournaments and prove myself against others. Not be a stooge for the internet to make fun of. There's no value in that.
I cannot imagine spending more time gaming than I have in the past nine years. A person would have to play more than 12 hours per day (every day) to play more than me.
My entire life has been video games. Literally as far back as I can remember. One of my first memories was trying to beat a sibling at Atari games such as "Night Driver", "War", "Pacman", "Space Invaders" and games I can't even remember the names of. (Something about eggs dropping and having to catch them.)
Can't disagree. That's been my experience.
I don´t do competitive gaming either, but i guess that in RTS - it´s probably common to use cheese tactics on the lower end of the ladder - while You won´t have success with those at the higher end of the ladder (most of the time - depends on the balance). And if You´re not prepared - or won´t use some metas - You will probably loose as someone who usually wins vs the braindead AIs in games on highest difficulty. And if i play a competitive session it´s usually me - with 200 hours single player experience in that game - vs. people who have 5k hours competitive experience in that game over the last years. I couldn´t care less if i loose - i don´t even play to win - i play to win with style - which usually turns out to be a loss. Imho if one plays to win - with that in mind as only goal - most of the fun in the game is lost - and one needs to complain about it - even if it´s just some entertainment thingy which is about fun and having a good time in the first place.
The only multiplayer games I go are those that focus more on immersion and teamplay - Hell let loose or Holdfast. Or some kind of Co op play. But 90% of my gaming time is now single player.
Why? Seriously, why is it that you want to be a "Pro-Gamer?"
Watch some of their confessionals/blogs/discsussions/strats vids.. A good many of them reach deep into the "obsessed" bin and pull out a near psychosis for themselves. The drama level in high-competition teams is off the chart.
Have you ever watched one of those "confession vids" where the wildly known "competitive player" in some top-ranked team has decided to leave because they just can't take it, anymore? Ever seen some top-ranked player in some FPS screaming, pulse-pounding through their neck, ranting and raving about some minute change in the game that they have chosen to tie their personal self-actualization needs to that will "destroy the world as we know it?"
IMO, the number of stable, well-adjusted, socially adequate, "pro-competitive-gamers" is very, very, small.
If it's your fascination or love of competitive gaming and the like, then what I suggest is trying more to become a very good streamer and a very good player of such games, but not necessarily one who is indentured to the competitive gaming circuit. If you delve deep into the knowledge and skill necessary to play a game very well, you can get a lot of satisfaction from helping others learn how to play well, too. Some good competitive streamers are not necessarily top-world-ranked players.
It may be the case that certain people with certain unique qualities tend to find themselves enmeshed in the constant feedback and reward as well as the deep engagement they feel by certain competitive video games. Just sayin'... you may be an absolutely normal person trying to excel in a competitive thing that normal people don't usually excel in.
If you're determined to do this thing, you need to engage with teams of professional players and learn from them. Even if it's not a top-ranked team, you can pick up on tips and get some good foundations to build on to restructure your gameplay to "the next level" where you're faced with "pro" players rather than RNG guys who may only be training you to fail. IOW, they may adopt tactics that "pros" easily know how to counter, but that are easy-win moves used by middling skill players that are harder to counter by those not yet in pro ranks.
I'd suggest not wasting your time "going pro." Try out the streaming option, instead, and try helping others to learn how to play a game better. But, if you're determined, then join a competitive team and start relearning pro-strats.
PS: There's a marked difference between "casual, having fun, competitive play" and "pro, imma gonna eat a bullet if I lose this game, competitive play." Don't ever get caught up in so very much that it tears you apart. It's a video game. It's lifetime is going to be relatively "extremely short" compared to other competitive sports. Because... it's not controlled by people who love the sport, it's controlled by the companies who make money from it and will dump it as soon as they can find something more popular to make money from producing.
It's not hard to accept failure in the face of professionals. That's natural.
My problem is that I can't compete at the bottom levels. That's... humiliating.
I believe that. I think that's natural.
Many others disagree. Especially experts of their craft. They say I'm whining. That I'm not trying. That I don't understand the game. None of that is true.
Every game (that I've been serious about) I've tried my best. I really did. No one believes me, but I did.
Sure. That makes sense.
You'd think that a person with unlimited time could be good at just about anything. Right? I would think so. Guess, I'm wrong.
Then why are you even here?
Typically, I only go online after I can beat the A.I. at max difficulty. I expect online players to be as good.
I don't expect online players to be x100 better than I could ever dream of. That's... insane. (Not to mention, completely and totally unfair.) If matchmaking systems were fair? I would never encounter such an individual.
"lose"
Then you are like most teammates I'm placed with. People that don't care.
Losing over and over is not a good time. No matter how you try to dress it up. No one likes to lose all the time. NO ONE.
"Good?"
AIs are garbage.
If you're structuring your tactics/strategy around "AI Performance" then that's why you're losing.
An "AI" is designed to present you with good gameplay. That's it. And, it certainly does not have to obey any human "rules." An AI doesn't compile some kind of human-like strategy to beat a human being. Compared to any competent human being, an AI is junk. It is only as good as the developer can make it and that is, in general, "not very" relative to the "Pro-Gamer" competitive circuit level. (Some AI is "good." But, why? In games that require things an AI is very good at doing, like memorizing many different things and gaming them "internally" to select the best response. ie: Chess AI can be "good" due to that ability.)
AI doesn't really change very much, either. An AI that is too flexible in its tactics may not pursue a winning strategy diligently enough, where one that is fairly inflexible may be very predictable and unchallenging for experienced players.
In any game like these where we're talking about a large portion of gameplay taking place in the player's heads, the number of "matches played" is usually strongly correlated with "good players."
Professional gamblers and those on the "Poker" tour, for instance, will play all sorts of online poker games under aliases. Why? They don't care about playing the game, they want to "see hands." They want to be presented with novel situations and be forced to stress their ability to come up with winning strategies based on the strongest indicators - Usually "maths." :) Since most of these games don't communicate non-verbal ques, body language, etc, they can focus purely on the maths, the odds, subtle plays that lead to clues about a player's ultimate intent due to statistical probability and likelihood or a plays strength and communicated confidence in the face of "the odds," etc. They want to "see hands." If they win, fine. If they don''t, they're still honing their "real" gameplay. They will have exercised what is a very strong muscle to have at the ready.
The heck with the AI. If you want to learn how to be a great player of a game when playing against the AI, go ahead and judge your skill with that. But, if you want to train to be a great player of a game when pitted against a human player, you must just that by playing against human players. And, the only way to learn how to play a game when playing against other humans is to play against other humans.
Ditch the AI. Take up the mantle of the squishy meatbags you'll be playing against. Train properly for the thing you want to achieve.
Losing - Losing is where you learn things. The only match you should consider a loss is one in which you didn't learn something or were unable to hone your skills. Stop "competing" match-by-match in casual competition and use those matches to experiment, to learn how to predict a player's gambits, and to learn how to both react to an attack and to prosecute one of your own, properly. Care about wins in tournament play, use off-tournament play to learn winning strategies and tactics you can apply to matches that mean something.
PS: Try to play against the best players you can. RNG/Nobody opponents will present you with situations that you may never seen in professional games, so you may not learn much. That's OK, use those matches to focus on your own play and experiment. But, don't take wins/losses in those matches as very good indicators of pro-level performance in any case.
I learned competitive gaming wasn't for me, I've seen just how good the best can be and know that i just can't be that good, But if you think you can do that, Good luck.
All sorts of people want to be all sorts of things. Why do people think my dreams are nonsense?
Can't say I've seen a lot of such vids. Or any. To be honest. I might just be forgetting, but I've not seen such things.
In fact, most deny ever having any difficulty. They claim it was easy, and that anyone can do it. Given enough time.
Not sure about the people that you admire. Can't speak to that.
No. I just assume they are weak.
Playing games all week is hard? Can't be worse than cleaning public toilets/floors 8 hours per day.
Yes. And it's pathetic.
You are talking to an insane person right now. Just so we are clear.
Thanks, though. You've confirmed I'm in the right place.
No one cares about such people. I'm not stupid. I looked into streaming. People that don't stand out get no traction. You have to be really good, or unusually entertaining.
I'm neither. I actually started streaming for a time. No one cared. No one watched.
I never even got a chance to show how entertaining I can be. (Way more than the average streamer. I can assure you that!) Like everything I do... it's was a waste of time.
Good advice. That's not me, though.
Unfortunately, people are unwilling to listen to the words of a failure.
http://www.ultrachentv.com/2020/05/23/ignoring-rank/
James Chen has tried (for many years) to make a career out of knowing fighting games, but not being good at them. No one cares. I'll suffer the same fate. Just for trying.
Maybe.
That's harder than you think. They won't even talk to me. At all. About anything. Pro players/streamers are aloof.
I contacted my favorite streamer about a year ago. He blocked and unfriended me. It was nothing more than a casual comment. (Basically just telling him that I liked him.)
There's no talking to these people. And believe me, he was not the first. I always get the same reaction. No matter how nice/polite I am.
Competitive teams aren't open to players with bad stats. Similarly, no one watches people that are bad at games. Streaming will not get me noticed by pro teams. I don't have the skill or viewership for anyone to care.
Already has.
I've developed such an aversion to competitive online gaming that it makes me physically ill to even think about it.
That is not a joke or exaggeration.
Logical, but unrealistic.
People still play MvC2. For cash. A game from ~1998.
Doesn't matter if the makers support it. All that matters is that people keep playing it.
Will never happen. You're talking about doing something that a million people would like to do. Best to just game for fun and get a job you're going to stick with.
This isn't to hurt your feelings, its so you don't waste and **** up your life.
Some people are exceptional at certain things. I am a good drummer, and I've been playing for 26 years. I'm good, but I will *never* be great. I don't have that natural talent. Someone with a natural talent will be able to play better than I could ever dream of with only 5 years of playing.
So I'm good, but not great, and will never be exceptional at it.
Everyone I believe is exceptional at something though, but I don't think gaming is your thing. I found that I am very exceptional at welding, and within a year I was outperforming welders that had been doing it for 30+ years.
So you haven't found your thing yet.
It's legit thousands of hours when not playing the game, formulating strategies, calculating damage numbers, practicing aim, practicing your keyboard use/hand placements so you don't fat finger your ult on accident.
Back when Overwatch was new, I wasn't much, a top 100 widowmaker for 2 seasons. However, I couldn't sustain it. Because it meant to get any better, I'd need to sacrifice mental and physical wellness, my social life, and revolve my entire existence around a video game.
That's not an answer.
Why do you want to become a professional competitive gamer?
And, you believe that?
Behold, the numerous ranks of successful professional gamers... Like.. five? Out of how many hopeful players?
"Anyone can do it, it's easy."
You may as well become a professional rapper by pressing your own CDs and selling them on streetcorners or a writer by paying a vanity publisher or squishing out your prose onto Amazon.
Sure, anyone can be a "professional" if they have loose standards. What standards do you have and what do you want to achieve?
Anything that's easy to do isn't going to pay very well and probably isn't worth anyone's time pursuing.
Ah, there it is, the implied elitism behind the "pro-gamer" self-titled label, huh?
Performance anxiety and the stress of maintaining everyone else's expectations is "hard." Getting so incensed about the "dedication" and "work" self-professed pro-gamers yammer about to the point where the responsibility is overwhelming... is hard.
What if you lose you spot on the team because you lost a match? One match. Some other guy wins his match and now you're a nobody... No team, no contract, no promos, no more fans cheering you on... all gone. One match. That's not easy, is it?
It's human.
"Insanity" is relative. You're not insane enough that you can not interact with reality.
The ranks of streamers and youtubers are filled with very successful game players who showcase games and give players good, useful, information on how to improve their performance.
Improve your performance there in ways that matter to the audience. If all you can focus on is wins/losses and you can't get wins... you're applying for the wrong job.
No.
Everything you do is not a waste of time, though you may certainly feel that way about yourself. Understand - Who you really are and how you may feel about yourself, from time to time, are not always the same thing. You will always be your own most enthusiastic critic because you may be very quick to judge yourself unfairly.
Someone who clicks on your video to try to learn about a game doesn't have omniscience and does not know anything about you being a "failure." IF you do a good job and help them, they won't give a crap about the number of matches you've won- ALL they will know is that you helped them.
The net is full of children. Literally. They're everywhere and their NICs aren't different than anyone else's. Yet, their opinions are largely childish and unrefined. So, if you get a lot of feedback from children complaining that you're a loser, remember who they are - Children. They know squat, have done squat, and don't need to worry about keeping a light bill paid so they can have electricity to push their Fortnite experience. They are largely tiny, little, inexperienced people who were only just learning not to poop their pants a few years ago.
But... cut them some slack, too. They're kids. Be kind, try to help communicate the necessities of the game and ignore them when they rage... Blame their parents, who are probably at the bottom of a wine bottle.
He seems like he had been pretty successful. But, then again, didn't he masturbate on someone's waifu figurine or something?
(See statement above about "pro-gamers" and being "well adjusted." I guess he well-adjusted his aim?)
If you're looking just at the "pro-streamers" and, remember, they say it's "so easy"... then you're looking in the wrong place. Fifty-eleven hopefuls are trying to message them, too.
Instead, get down in the muck, learn a game, learn its online community and the teams of players that play it and then go put in an application to join, directly.
"Pro-Streamer-Gamers" are probably not handling their own social media accounts are aren't likely to be answering any messages from anyone they don't already know signs paychecks and endorsement deals for them.
Someone out there wants players. Their team may be full of suck. But, you can not start out at the top if you can't gain the experience to be able to hone your skills enough to qualify.
Look at anyone who's been successful in performing arts and sports, which is what you're talking about. Where did they start? How many well-known bands had to play crappy bar circuits and live in a hole in the ground before they got the right sound and then got "lucky" enough to be noticed? How many hours did a professional athlete put into training until they learned how to train correctly? And, how many professional athletes were overlooked just due to chance?
"Luck" is a huge thing in such endeavors.
And, you can make your own "luck," too. But, doing so requires "work." And, you have to "work right" to succeed at doing it.
At the end of the day, though, if you just can't do it... you just can't do it. So what? Find something else. There are plenty of great sports commentators that don't pleasure themselves on waifu figurines that were once athletes, themselves.
Or, stay in school and learn a real profession or go study up on one. At the end of the day at the community meeting, you're not going to gain one bit of prestige or notoriety for being a "professional gamer." Not even a little bit. At best, you'll get some laughs, no matter how rich you are. If you said you were a professional plumber, you'd get a rush of new clients and a lot of applause. And, you may end up just as rich. :) Surely, you'd have a better chance at being rich if you were a professional plumber than a failed "pro-gamer."
I believe you completely, absolutely, 100%.
So, why do you pursue it if it is so very damaging? Don't do that to yourself. Gaming should be "fun" not some anxiety-inducing panic experience. Stop. Stop putting all that on yourself. You don't deserve that and shouldn't expect to feel like that.
People make millions copy/pasting bad pictures of monkeys and selling them as NFTs. Does that somehow justify them or make them "professionals." Nobody is going to become noted as some great "Pro-Gamer" because they play MvC2 for ten bucks a pop on some seedy street-corner. :)
"Money" doesn't make something "professional." A professional is much more than someone who gets paid for their labor. Being a professional means some form of formal education, some form of oversight by licensing boards and standards, some form of licensing and renewal as well as formal, continuing, education. Those fighting-game guys playing for lunch money are probably not "professionals."
I think you should focus on finding some affirmation in the things you can do. You have something that you can do and even if it's not perfect, your own way of doing it may be excellent. There's something out there that you do well or even that you enjoy so much you don't care if you don't do it well. I'm not joking - You've tied yourself to "just this one thing" and nobody should ever do that.
Ever here of grown men supporting a family and then defining themselves by their job and their workplace success? They have everything.. a loving wife, great kids, a decent place to live for their family and food on the table and shirts on the kid's backs, but then they go to work and "define" themselves by their job position and salary. That's crazy, isn't it? That's just not right, right? All the snotty noses wiped, all the diapers changed, all the stress overcome, love maintained despite the pitfalls... but, they go out there and define themselves by that anyway because that's what they've taught themselves to do as well as what much of society expects.
Human beings don't have to judge themselves based on what they are and what they have achieved in public life.
It's the stuff you can't buy and the stuff that doesn't appear on a scoreboard that is truly worthwhile and valuable. Nobody's life is rated by a screenshot.
To become a professional gamer you actually have to put in the effort and it's more than just playing hours.
As a media personality you've on top of having to practice the game, is juggle your health, media presence, any active social media accounts, and privacy.
It's not just a "sit down and stream for 4 hours a week" thing. It's a daily grind.