So why did Will Smith punch Chris Rock?
Something about G.I. Jane... I don't get it.
Původně napsal Violent Rainbow:
He made a GI Jane Joke about Jada because she's bald. I think she has alopecia so that was kinda tasteless but still Will overreacted.
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No.

It was a very tame joke, Will Smith overreacted and made himself look like a complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
He shouldn't have been allowed to collect his reward afterwards or deliver his sappy speech.
ambi 29. bře. 2022 v 20.54 
His toxic wife Jada put him to it. He was laughing and relaxed during the joke.

What I noticed is that she did NOTHING to stop her husband from going onstage, which to me is evidence she put him to it.
No. He's a comedian, if Will wanted to save face after seeing Jada's reaction, he could've just told Chris that the joke was distasteful. Assaulting someone over a mildly offensive joke, on live television is obviously not right and Will only got away with it cuz Chris didn't press charges.
Angel 29. bře. 2022 v 21.05 
I love how this is now merged into a mega thread while some posters wrote "Noone cares" :hp_kyu:
Parrhesiastes původně napsal:
Yew Nough původně napsal:
PS: Anyone find this guy funny?

Should he have been smacked for this? ...

Apples and oranges. You provided a clip of a very young Will Smith making a bald joke to someone who was having a good time. Chris Rock was mocking Jada Smith about her alopecia, and he has been doing it for years (or so I read yesterday).

No Apples and apples.

How did he know if that guy didn't have alopecia as well? The man might of.. but since his wife didn't come out and slap Will for making that joke... I guess we'll never know.

Parrhesiastes původně napsal:
Among their crowd of Hollywood elites, there's no chance he didn't know about her condition, and I'd be willing to bet both of The Smiths have had words with him about it before.

So you know this exactly?... you have first hand knowledge? So give us details of that happening.. or, you're just making it up as you go along.

Parrhesiastes původně napsal:
I know a guy with alopecia, and it was pretty hard for him to deal with. He wasn't a world famous actor with a multi-million dollar career on the line either. Why would anyone think tormenting a sick woman was funny?

So your personal experiences are tainting your opinion and you're bias about it.. got it.

Again... I'll just leave this here:

https://youtu.be/Bg9PeIpTwWQ

Hollywood: full of adult pretenders.

Yew Nough původně napsal:
(Everything's funny until they start making fun of you and yours, it seems. Hypocrisy.)

Exactly...
Angel 29. bře. 2022 v 22.48 
Watching this now and I thought this was a good analysis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qo0SkwMPlY
Your_White_Knight původně napsal:

How did he know if that guy didn't have alopecia as well? The man might of.. but since his wife didn't come out and slap Will for making that joke... I guess we'll never know.

The impression I got from the clip was that the bald guy was a staff member of the Arsenio Hall Show. The big smile on his face as he laughed along with the joke also puts it in context. The difference, as I understand it, is that Chris Rock did know... and made the jokes repeatedly.

Your_White_Knight původně napsal:
So you know this exactly?... you have first hand knowledge? So give us details of that happening.. or, you're just making it up as you go along.

Do I "know this exactly"? Of course not. I probably know less about Hollywood celebrities than you do. I learned about this "issue" right here in this forum... then I read some articles about it. I don't think it's even remotely reasonable to suggest that I'm pretending that I was there, or have any first hand knowledge.

Your_White_Knight původně napsal:
So your personal experiences are tainting your opinion and you're bias about it.. got it.

So you're pretending to be surprised to learn that my personal life experiences influence how I perceive the world around me... got it.

********

I don't generally condone violence, but I have to say, seeing someone get slapped for mocking someone's medical condition doesn't really bother me a whole lot.

This is a quote from one of the articles I mentioned,
"... Rock's G.I. Jane comment was in reference to Pinkett's hair loss.

It's not the first time that Rock has targeted Pinkett, having made jokes at her expense when he hosted the Oscars in 2016, according to The Associated Press.

In 2018, the actress revealed she was diagnosed with alopecia, an autoimmune disorder.

She has frequently posted about her struggles with the condition on social media, and in July 2021, she and her daughter Willow shaved their heads". https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/will-smith-chris-rock-oscars-slap-1.6399603
Naposledy upravil White Knight; 29. bře. 2022 v 23.01
Angel původně napsal:
Watching this now and I thought this was a good analysis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qo0SkwMPlY

Give it time and a psychologist and criminologist will come along and put a video out.

The only questions are was it a special operation or not and is will an agent for Putin.
Gus the Crocodile původně napsal:
nullpo původně napsal:
airing complain in private is better.
The behaviour wasn’t in private, so I don’t see why it’s owed the courtesy of a private rebuke. We should stop worrying about being nice to aresholes.
then we are no better than them, no self control. Also for will smith in particular his action has far more impact than when random joe do it because he's a public figure attending a televised event.
Plaid 30. bře. 2022 v 10.56 
Yew Nough původně napsal:
PS: Anyone find this guy funny?

Should he have been smacked for this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7u9_z7ZSnk

(Everything's funny until they start making fun of you and yours, it seems. Hypocrisy.)
good find!
nullpo původně napsal:
Gus the Crocodile původně napsal:
The behaviour wasn’t in private, so I don’t see why it’s owed the courtesy of a private rebuke. We should stop worrying about being nice to aresholes.
then we are no better than them, no self control. Also for will smith in particular his action has far more impact than when random joe do it because he's a public figure attending a televised event.
I completely reject this idea that if you don’t treat arseholes well you’re as bad as the arseholes. It’s the same old paradox-of-tolerance thing, the tendency of liberals to elevate ‘civility’ to the highest altar of worship, even above humanity.

Seemed pretty controlled to me; it’s not like he got into a brawl or anything. A quick slap, and a message on how to avoid that happening in future.

Not to say I promote slapping people as a general rule, but I don’t think most of the proposed alternative solutions people have been bringing up are as effective or appropriate. “Talk about it in private afterward” grants undue respect and protection to the act of standing on stage making ableist jokes. “‘Roast him’ yourself” risks actually encouraging it by turning it into a big game. Etc etc.
Naposledy upravil Gus the Crocodile; 30. bře. 2022 v 12.55
Tech původně napsal:
Fosty původně napsal:
Something about G.I. Jane... I don't get it.

That wasn't a punch.

That was a girly slap he done did.

Lolzee xD
You know you are over 5 months late with this answer? And it has already been said. Multiple times.

Snark. :steammocking:
Naposledy upravil Out Of Bubblegum; 12. zář. 2022 v 10.11
Because these are Hollywood superstars. They get a pass for literally everything and they're starting to realize it.
Of all the topics to necro, it's this one that everyone has since forgotten about.
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