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Mongoose 2022 年 2 月 2 日 下午 2:02
Do you believe in aliens? 👽
what has you convinced or skeptical?
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MinionJoe 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 8:58 
We currently don't have enough information to even calculate a statistical possibility of there being alien life. Much less intelligent alien life.

However, in an infinite universe, any event, no matter how improbable, is guaranteed to exist.

Unfortunately, we do not live in an infinite universe.
2009年8月1日 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 9:16 
I believe in South Park. Aliens exist!
Dracoco OwO 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 9:59 
引用自 wearesergei
I believe in South Park. Aliens exist!
This wasn't worthy of a ban, come on.
Battlekruse 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 10:10 
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the universe or we are not."

"Both are equally terrifying.”

Arthur C. Clarke
Devsman 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 10:19 
引用自 Battlekruse
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the universe or we are not."

"Both are equally terrifying.”

Arthur C. Clarke
Arthur C. Clarke is noteworthy for being not just a sci-fi titan but also an impressive wordsmith.
最后由 Devsman 编辑于; 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 10:19
❤ Sly Succubus ❤ 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 10:30 
引用自 Dracoco OwO
引用自 wearesergei
I believe in South Park. Aliens exist!
This wasn't worthy of a ban, come on.
Just a quick note, he might of got a temp ban and it could be completely unrelated to this thread entirely. I will say I got a warning myself and it was from something from a few days prior to the day I got it (I wont say what the warning was over out of respect of the forums moderators)
MinionJoe 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 10:34 
引用自 NepNepNepu!
引用自 Dracoco OwO
This wasn't worthy of a ban, come on.
Just a quick note, he might of got a temp ban and it could be completely unrelated to this thread entirely. I will say I got a warning myself and it was from something from a few days prior to the day I got it (I wont say what the warning was over out of respect of the forums moderators)
It's just bad optics.

No wonder aliens avoid us.
Dracoco OwO 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 10:36 
引用自 NepNepNepu!
引用自 Dracoco OwO
This wasn't worthy of a ban, come on.
Just a quick note, he might of got a temp ban and it could be completely unrelated to this thread entirely. I will say I got a warning myself and it was from something from a few days prior to the day I got it (I wont say what the warning was over out of respect of the forums moderators)
I know but that seemed funny that this particular comment could have been the reason of the ban since it's in the perfect time frame for it.
最后由 Dracoco OwO 编辑于; 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 10:36
Neurotic Panda 2022 年 2 月 3 日 上午 10:36 
Yes I believe in alien's, ( I.E. creatures or beings not of this planet)

Just not in the way you are thinking though.
sotaponi 2022 年 2 月 3 日 下午 12:24 
引用自 Devsman
There's no reason they couldn't exist but I never bought everyone's favorite "the universe is so big that they have to exist" argument.

So I guess I'm a no but not a particularly committed no.
If you believe certain, uh, modern theories, there is something called "quantum fluctuations." Or by extension, there is the "quantum vacuum." Whereas these "fluctuations":
  • Are all-powerful (they can create lasting matter from nothing)
  • Are "outside of time" (they transcend local spacetime; "fluctuations before the big bang")
  • Are omnipresent (the entire "quantum vacuum" is filled with them)
  • Are impliedly idealistic (creation coincides observers and reason; everything else is highly improbable in line with probabilistic quantum physics, as surely the timeless system can "fluctuate" into existence in any "quantum state," making conscious starts pretty much a guarantee. else it wouldn't be timelessly, meaning non-causally, random. that, and there is the consciousness vs fine-tuning problem.)
  • Are thus creationist (the universe usually pops in at some date such as 6000 BC)
  • Are omniscient (Entanglement? Observing a wave "fluctuates" into existence a particle.)
Of course this doesn't explain what exactly "maintains" these "fluctuations" or "field excitations" unless you believe them personal and non-probabilistic (Then representing a kind of "reason of the gaps." Every field instrument needs a player and constructor, right? And there's still the universal instrument's fine-tuning problem). But... if you believe this, then it's entirely plausible that it all started on this planet. And that no aliens exist. Granted how they still might.

Though even if you actually believe for quantum physics to represent a kind of "ignorance of the gaps," then you have to consider that the quantum-generator continued "rolling" a die until a planet with one conscious observer existed. Which could have been earth. In which case surely the universe is void of conscious beings except for us. Because there is no other planet capable of hosting life. Because the die rolled nothing but invalid universe/planet configurations until earth was created. (Either way, if the observable universe had even one planet's orbit altered, there'd be no life on earth.)

Of course you can take this a step further: The human body (being a kind of mini or quantum universe) contains 12000 times as many atom-galaxies as there are star-galaxies in the observable universe. Granted how it is assumed that we can observe at most 5% of the universe, but still... it means that even amongst "humans", there could have been die rolls until an actual human (atom configuration) capable of conscious reason was created. If you view humans themselves as miniature universes (commanding dark matter, dark energy, etc) in certain star-type atom configurations.

Which essentially means that most people might not be conscious. Because they are invalid mini universes the same way most planets are barren. They are failed die rolls... victims of malfluctuation. (And some starts might arguably have a conscious being spawn on a lone asteroid only to suffocate immediately.)

Well. That is if you believe in "quantum fluctuations," at least.

...

Uh, and aliens? Yeah. If there are this many failed "ignorance of the gaps" type of quantum die rolls until a conscious observer is fluctuated into existence, then there could be all sorts of "things" out there. Like fully occupied robot unicorn planets, magical space whales, or a teapot in orbit of Mars. Even if they aren't conscious, since they are mere fluctuation residue. Weird to think about to be honest. (Else, if the gaps aren't ignorant, there might be no teapot in orbit of Mars, unless the omnipotent fluctuation agent wanted to a place an easter egg. Of course non-ignorant gaps aren't considered scientific these days. Which is why we will just have to accept the solipsistic teapot as sound reason... I mean sound ignorance.)

That is my understanding of modern physics.
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B✪✪tsy 2022 年 2 月 3 日 下午 12:29 
This quote fits the topic well:

""

Ellie Arroway: You know, there are four hundred billion stars out there, just in our galaxy alone. If only one out of a million of those had planets, and just of out of a million of those had life, and just one out of a million of those had intelligent life; there would be literally millions of civilizations out there.

Palmer Joss: [looking the night sky] Well, if there wasn't, it'll be an awful waste of space.

Ellie Arroway: [looking him] Amen.
"

Quote from the movie Contact.
❤ Sly Succubus ❤ 2022 年 2 月 3 日 下午 12:49 
引用自 Mr. Smiles
Demons are just aliens from hell.
So wait that means Angels are just aliens from the planet Heaven?

I can now not stop imagining God being the codename of a starship and that Satan was the guy who tried to pull a mutiny and they crashed on earth..

In a very odd way it sorta makes sense, if there's a planet Hell and a planet Heaven and both are aliens we cant see due to whatever means of tech or I guess abilities I guess logically I can see them battling on earth.

Its like the Jedi VS the Sith except instead of lasers their shooting beams of holy/unholy stuff.
Affronter 2022 年 2 月 3 日 下午 12:51 
引用自 B✪✪tsy
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Quote from the movie Contact.

Top 10 film/book in my list.
B✪✪tsy 2022 年 2 月 3 日 下午 1:11 
引用自 Affronter
引用自 B✪✪tsy
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Quote from the movie Contact.

Top 10 film/book in my list.
Mine as well :)
morbin time 2022 年 2 月 3 日 下午 1:15 
yeah, I believe there's other forms of life out there
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