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Drystoner 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 5:05
RIP Prince Philip
The Duke of Edinburgh will always be remembered, may he rest in peace, amen.
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Radene 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:23 
引用自 Grendalcat
引用自 Mythical Ostrich

Not nearly as ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up as comparing deaths. What is wrong with you?

What is wrong with comparing the tragedy of various deaths? I had an aunt who died before her third birthday, I think her death is more tragic than Prince Phillip's death at age 99.

That does suck. May she RIP.
Mythical Ostrich 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:25 
引用自 Darkie
You are just using your own bias.. do you wanna post a RIP for all old people that died today? then we would never get to stop making threads about it.. do you wanna know how many kids died from starvation today?...... Death happens all the time, but does not really effect us unless, it is someone we are close to (not ourself, because then, obviously we would just be dead)

Bias because I think it's disgusting to rudely dismiss a death because "old person"? Interesting view you have there.
So, because you don't know someone, because a lot of people have died. It's okay to go "Lol I don't care"? You'd be okay if someone mockingly commented about your family member's death?




引用自 Dracoco OwO
Not really, deaths sucks more than a mere comparison. Beside you are a bit sensitive for someone that you don't even know.

Is that supposed to be an argument? I'm not allowed to call out a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ attitude over someone's death because I don't know them?
Mythical Ostrich 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:28 
引用自 Grendalcat

What is wrong with comparing the tragedy of various deaths? I had an aunt who died before her third birthday, I think her death is more tragic than Prince Phillip's death at age 99.

Because then someone will go "but my brother died at the age of one, therefore, his death is worse than your aunt's". It doesn't have to be, and SHOULDN'T be a competition. Death is not a fun thing regardless of age. People will still be sad. I am sorry about your aunt though, that is also really unfortunate.
AdahnGorion 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:31 
引用自 Mythical Ostrich
引用自 Darkie
You are just using your own bias.. do you wanna post a RIP for all old people that died today? then we would never get to stop making threads about it.. do you wanna know how many kids died from starvation today?...... Death happens all the time, but does not really effect us unless, it is someone we are close to (not ourself, because then, obviously we would just be dead)

Bias because I think it's disgusting to rudely dismiss a death because "old person"? Interesting view you have there.
So, because you don't know someone, because a lot of people have died. It's okay to go "Lol I don't care"? You'd be okay if someone mockingly commented about your family member's death?




引用自 Dracoco OwO
Not really, deaths sucks more than a mere comparison. Beside you are a bit sensitive for someone that you don't even know.

Is that supposed to be an argument? I'm not allowed to call out a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ attitude over someone's death because I don't know them?

Yes..
From my bias.. I could go like

Why should I care? he did not really "exist" to me.. since I did not know about him, nor ever spoke or saw him.. basically, he is an object of imagination... Just like you.. yes you... don´t care about the millions of people dying from starvation every year or even more from not having access to water.... you don´t care, because you don´t know them or see them close up...

We live in a bubble (close society) that is the fringe people often care about, but only if they "know" people and even so most people still only care, if it is very close by....
I have seen people say "atlast it is done... now I can get a new car due to inheritence" when a old parent died....

Don´t weep for the dead..... weep for the living.. those are still here after all, the dead don´t care, they are dead.....



My point here.

Why do you care so much about this person? and why don´t you care about all the other people dying today?... a pretty fair question don´t you think?



As for my family.. I don´t care what others think... it is my pain, not their pain... they did not know x or y family member... I did... I have the loss, not them.. Would I think it was odd, if random people on OT screamed "it is so sad, Darkie´s 85 year old uncle died" then... yes..

I guess I could accept, people living in x or y area, having had a accident of a child or tbh, just a person.... make a thread about that and being "sad" on the families ways... (not sad themselves, unless they knew the person)...


Did that answer it for you? now please answer my question



Death is a natural thing, it should be embraced and celebrated tbh... thus my "show how a person "touched" you and tell us a memory etc.. thread argument, rather than

RIP x or y famous or to some, random people of the world died..
最后由 AdahnGorion 编辑于; 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:35
Mythical Ostrich 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:38 
引用自 Darkie
Yes..
From my bias.. I could go like

Why should I care? he did not really "exist" to me.. since I did not know about him, nor ever spoke or saw him.. basically, he is an object of imagination... Just like you.. yes you... don´t care about the millions of people dying from starvation every year or even more from not having access to water.... you don´t care, because you don´t know them or see them close up...

We live in a bubble (close society) that is the fringe people often care about, but only if they "know" people and even so most people still only care, if it is very close by....
I have seen people say "atlast it is done... now I can get a new car due to inheritence" when a old parent died....

Don´t weep for the dead..... weep for the living.. those are still here after all, the dead don´t care, they are dead.....

My point here.

Why do you care so much about this person? and why don´t you care about all the other people dying today?... a pretty fair question don´t you think?


Question, have you ever been to a funeral?
If you have, did you then go "yeah, this person died. But someone close to me died so it's sadder."?
It's not specifically about the person, it's about being dismissive of their death, it's about comparing deaths and making it a competition, it's about being compassionate and having empathy, it's about being human and understanding that death is sad regardless of your bias.
Although as I think about it, I could understand not caring if said person was horrible.

I'm going to unfollow this thread now. I'm actually pretty disgusted by many of the comments here.
最后由 Mythical Ostrich 编辑于; 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:45
kroty :D 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:42 
yeah bro
Plaid 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:44 
That sucks for those who loved him. I am not one of those people.

Did he rape children, or cover for those who did?
最后由 Plaid 编辑于; 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:45
midnite rule 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:45 
引用自 Plaid
That sucks for those who loved him. I am not one of those people.

Did he rape children, or cover for those who did?

His son, Prince Andrew, did.
Dracoco OwO 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:47 
引用自 Plaid
引用自 midnite rule

His son, Prince Andrew, did.

The royal family has a history of covering up for pedophiles.
Why am i not surprised.
King Arthur 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:49 
A lot of people are critical of the royal family and I don't mind it, but I would take a wealthy royal family over the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that happens in my country any day of the week
Radene 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:50 
引用自 midnite rule
引用自 Plaid
That sucks for those who loved him. I am not one of those people.

Did he rape children, or cover for those who did?

His son, Prince Andrew, did.

We are to judge people by the actions of their offspring, then?

Think I could stir up some crap to get my old man in prison?
midnite rule 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:55 
引用自 Radene
We are to judge people by the actions of their offspring, then?

To some extent, yes. And certainly when they enable the behavior.

Also, his uncle, Lord Mountbatten, is alleged to have been a pederast.
Radene 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:56 
引用自 midnite rule
引用自 Radene
We are to judge people by the actions of their offspring, then?

To some extent, yes.

To what extent, exactly?
最后由 Radene 编辑于; 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:57
AdahnGorion 2021 年 4 月 9 日 上午 11:59 
引用自 Mythical Ostrich
引用自 Darkie
Yes..
From my bias.. I could go like

Why should I care? he did not really "exist" to me.. since I did not know about him, nor ever spoke or saw him.. basically, he is an object of imagination... Just like you.. yes you... don´t care about the millions of people dying from starvation every year or even more from not having access to water.... you don´t care, because you don´t know them or see them close up...

We live in a bubble (close society) that is the fringe people often care about, but only if they "know" people and even so most people still only care, if it is very close by....
I have seen people say "atlast it is done... now I can get a new car due to inheritence" when a old parent died....

Don´t weep for the dead..... weep for the living.. those are still here after all, the dead don´t care, they are dead.....

My point here.

Why do you care so much about this person? and why don´t you care about all the other people dying today?... a pretty fair question don´t you think?


Question, have you ever been to a funeral?
If you have, did you then go "yeah, this person died. But someone close to me died so it's sadder."?
It's not specifically about the person, it's about being dismissive of their death, it's about comparing deaths and making it a competition, it's about being compassionate and having empathy, it's about being human and understanding that death is sad regardless of your bias.
Although as I think about it, I could understand not caring if said person was horrible.

I have been to many funerals (I am not young and even when I was young, I lost close friends and even a lover, before they were even more than young adults) to both disease, horrible accidents, etc.. People crying a lot during funerals, but nobody they knew back then (a part from close family) remembers are care.. I still remember and have joyfull memories about time spent with them..

Am I sad about it now? no... why? well.. they are dead.... it is not sad or hard for them.. it is sad and hard (for some) ie. in this situation it was sad for their parents, and family or me as a friend, etc..

You talk about not wanting to put value, yet you don´t seem to care about everybody dying every single dead from starvation or not getting water...... seriously......... I don´t think you know what empathy actually is.... in this regard... because as I said, unless you know the person, you can´t actually show proper understanding and a bigger question is also if you really should care.

For all you know, the person that died, might have been a direct cause of others getting pain... would you then condem ? (I don´t care and personally don´t wanna bring moral into it)



Death is death... life is life.... we can be in disagrement in life, but in death we will both be equal and in the same state..... that is.. not existing or remembering any of this anyway....
midnite rule 2021 年 4 月 9 日 下午 12:01 
引用自 Radene
引用自 midnite rule

To some extent, yes.

To what extent, exactly?

Would you hire someone who raised a serial killer to babysit your kids?
最后由 midnite rule 编辑于; 2021 年 4 月 9 日 下午 12:02
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