which martial art is the strongest in a streetfight?

[tonni]

i am going to have to say aikido.

[Devsman]

Postat inițial de Morkonan:

As we all know, people bring knives and guns to street fights. None of them battle with any sense of honor.

People talk like a street-fight is some kind of competitive match like they see on TV.

A "street fight" is likely the closest most people will come to being murdered.

A "street fight" is someone picking up a brick and staving in your skull. There are no "rules." And, if you assume there are "rules," you'll be famous...

No, of course, not all fights end up with people dead nor does everyone involved always want to seriously hurt or kill anyone. But... you just don't "know" what's going to happen or how far its going to go. You aren't going to have to worry about whether or not the other guy knows Super-Fu or if your Wing Wang kata is impressive enough to keep you from being dead.

Don't get into street fights.

If you have to defend yourself, do so with everything at your disposal. In that situation, It's better to be a live defendant than a dead victim.

But, if you choose to do that, know that what you do is your responsibility.

It's best to work really hard in training how to avoid street-fights and know how to avoid situations and places where they're likely to occur.

I don't blame people, honestly, for not "fighting fair" in a street fight. Mostly because you don't know if anyone else is going to.

I used to walk about a mile home every weekday, and in the winter the sun would be down. And lemme tell you, I was constantly looking for cheap advantages just in case. I knew which streets to take so I could always see my shadow, where all the planters were (you know, the ones made of bricks so I could slam some fool's head into a corner if needed), where all the telephone poles with those stability wires on them were, etc.

Nothing ever happened, but I was determined that if it did, I was going to be the one walking away.

[talemore]

Pistol-fu

[dallas]

probably malay kung fu called silat

[tonni]

Postat inițial de dallas:

probably malay kung fu called silat

how do u know

[Kamiyama]

I've heard that all these days all the MMA fighters are trained in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. It's a ground fighting style. The idea is no matter how talented you are at striking, all fights end up on the ground anyway and the best person fighting on the floor is the one who wins.

IMO it makes MMA look really gay. It's two shirtless guys in a cage rolling around on the floor.

Personally I think Muay Thai is the most impressive because it's the most aggressive style when it comes to striking, with every blow intended to be a killing blow. But in a street fight the guy who knows Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu would probably win.

It is a sad state of affairs.

[Xero_Daxter]

Bad Guy: I have you know that you’re trapped in this room with me and I’m the one with the gun.

Me: No. you’re trapped in this room with me and you just brought me mine.

[Coinkydink]

Ah yes, here we are with the "MMA vs martial arts" argument, the favourite topic of all armchair street fighters.

Seems they forget that MMA is a SPORT with rules such as no elbows or kicks to certain body parts, wheres real life violence has no rules and is not a sport or any kind of fun time.

Martial arts were developed before firearms and were about actually doing serious damage or outright killing people. Modern day martial arts are mostly useless because they have been neutered. Most teachers teach empty forms without real life combat application or actual training in real life self defence- hence the deservedly bad name.
Real martial arts do not work under MMA rules !

Check out AikidoFlow on YT if you think Aikido is useless.... And, wrestling in the street will likely get your head kicked by your opponents' friends.

Any kind of kung fu taught by a proper teacher who focuses on self defence rather than form, should be more than enough to deal with attackers in the street... Krav Maga is what police and military train in, and it is nothing but dumbed-down kung fu stripped of the martial spirit which teaches you how to not get into a fight in the first place.

You don't really need any of this stuff if you have the right atittude and sense. Almost all street fights happen because of one party failing to just GTFO or de-escalate.

[Hobbit XIII]

To do what Bruce Lee hated to have been said.....

Bruce Lee says "if somebody wants to run at you and bite your nose off there isn't much you can do about it if they are determined enough they will do it".

Bruce Lee said in his book he would hate for people in the future to say 'Bruce Lee Says' the problem is he had a great way of putting things.

Muay Thai is lethal.
The strikes are designed to damage.

In a street fight, it could be anything going on.

Learn different ways usually how to avoid them is the best way only takes a fall in the wrong way (and it will be the wrong way if there is no control of the fall) and crack goes the head on concrete or a stone or the wall.

If a person wants to learn to defend themselves I say take it seriously start off with getting fit and moving your body (which nobody ever wants to hear on forums).
Tae Bo will do that, take it slow learn HOW each exercise works to get the most benefit of it and once you got that your body will now be more open to learning how to fight after even a couple of weeks. The beginning stretching will be doing good for the body alone.

It teaches how to breathe and most importantly how to remain in control of the body. Each exercise is a controlled movement not a flinging movement.

From there take up the philosophy of Bruce Lee's work see what he has to say and then jump into Krav Maga with the view it is there as a toll to select from not as the ultimate way to be ie just because you know something of violence does not mean it is your way of dealing with conflicts.

[Hobbit XIII]

Postat inițial de nagu_al:

Any kind of kung fu taught by a proper teacher who focuses on self defence rather than form, should be more than enough to deal with attackers in the street... .

yes even learning how to do the stances can build up strength of the body if done correctly and learning how the hands can be used in its various forms can strengthen and provide tools of necessity.

[dallas]

Postat inițial de tonni:

Postat inițial de dallas:

probably malay kung fu called silat

how do u know

i read it somewhere before ,it was a long time ago

[Xero_Daxter]

Why isn’t there a fighting style where it’s sole purpose is to “murk” somebody?

[Morkonan]

Postat inițial de Devsman:

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Nothing ever happened, but I was determined that if it did, I was going to be the one walking away.

That is how you survive a "street fight."

A friend of mine said some things he shouldn't have while in a bar. A big guy took exception to what he said. My friend picked a fight with him.... The big guy told him that he didn't want to fight him. He didn't want any part of a fight with him. But, my friend, being a jerk and a "black belt" in Karate and Taekwando, pushed the issue.

Those were really popular weekend-martial-arts back then. They're great for going to big events and standing on a mat and bowing and then competing with rules and stuff. Win a few matches with a crowd of onlookers and suddenly you're the star in a bad Chinese Kung-Fu movie.

My friend had his face broken, jaw broken, occipital ridge broken, and spent a couple of weeks in the hospital after a couple of reconstructive surgeries. His jaw was wired shut for quite a while, since his whole face was wired back together, too. He basically had to take another picture for his driver's license...

And, the crazy thing is that the big guy who didn't want to get into that fight and that ended up finishing it was the one that dropped my friend off at the emergency room.

(I probably told that same story in this thread, long ago, or another one just like it. Peeps... don't ever be my friend who thought he could win a street fight because he had belts.)

[Daenoxiis]

The one that involves an S&W .500.

[Ruckman_Void]

...There's always a bigger fish....

[Scorpion]

Postat inițial de Ruckman_Void:

...There's always a bigger fish....

Maybe, but the heavier they are, the heavier they "fall", sometimes...