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CRITICAL HIT 29/out./2021 às 17:29
Name the worst company in the world.
In my opinion it would be PETA. They kill 90% of their "rescues" and have the audacity to call us monsters for eating bacon. What about you guys?
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Wolfy 30/out./2021 às 21:48 
All of them?
🍋 Lemonfed 🍋 30/out./2021 às 23:18 
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All of them?
at the same time you have small local companies and business that are kind of good at both their employees and customers even if it's more often out of necessity then generosity.
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Samwise 31/out./2021 às 0:41 
I'm pretty sure that all huge companies have done, and keep doing pretty evil stuff. This includes gaming companies such as Nintendo too. We just ignore, or don't want to know or don't care about those things.

For example for ignored bad stuff, many if not all clothing companies that sell their clothes cheap, manufactures their clothes in 3rd world countries, making workers there work up to even 16 hour days without even one holiday per year, without insurance and pays some of them so little that it barely gets them food on table.

Another example, is all companies that have huge cruise ships. When those ships gets into so bad state its repairing or maintenance costs are big enough they send those ships into 3rd world countries, where people are hired to break down those ships piece by piece by hand and few tools, but again no insurance, no proper pay, no safety equipment and people do get severely hurt but get no compensation for it or help. In one documentary they showed a 16 year old boy who had both of his legs broken in accident and had been waiting for MONTHS to get to hospital, but the company he worked for didn't give him even one dollar for hospital fees and just replaced him with someone else.
Jazz 31/out./2021 às 0:55 
Pretty much all of them
Neo 31/out./2021 às 2:15 
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BBC

Agreed.
Ruby 31/out./2021 às 2:35 
Nestle
Captain Morgan 31/out./2021 às 16:14 
GOG
Jinn-Gon Qui 31/out./2021 às 16:18 
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GOG

Interesting. How come?
Captain Morgan 31/out./2021 às 16:22 
Escrito originalmente por Miss Ann Thrope:
GOG isn't a company.

That's like saying Steam is a company.
My bad. CD Project or whatever those unscrupulous enterpreneurs are being called
Dracoco OwO 31/out./2021 às 16:47 
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Escrito originalmente por Captain Morgan:
GOG

Interesting. How come?
Apparently they suck now.
Jinn-Gon Qui 31/out./2021 às 17:11 
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Escrito originalmente por Dracoco OwO:
Apparently they suck now.

It's kind of funny how a lot of people have gone from worshipping CDPR to hating them, since the release of Cyberpunk 2077.

To me, they're just a typical gaming company with typical flaws. There are much worse companies out there.

Was it the company itself that hyped their own product or it was the fanbase?
Captain Morgan 1/nov./2021 às 0:59 
Escrito originalmente por Miss Ann Thrope:
It's kind of funny how a lot of people have gone from worshipping CDPR to hating them, since the release of Cyberpunk 2077.

To me, they're just a typical gaming company with typical flaws. There are much worse companies out there.
It isn't funny, not in the least bit, especially for the old fanbase, those who supported them wholeheartedly once. And Cyberpunk is only the tip of the iceberg. Lots of people pis sed badly and righteously so, at that. Other than taking back the solid foundation of transparency, mutual trust and active communication between service and customers, they have turned out to be somebody else entirely, selling out and even destroying all by themselves, what made them stand out, crushing their very own core values, the very same ones that their employees used to advertize in cheesy videos to earn the gamers' sympathy in the old days. Lots of bad decisions and even straight lies, downright deceit ("many gamers requested devotion to not be released" as an example, right after announcing its supposed arrival), insulting people who wanted them to bring certain games and trolling them even ("Hatred and Agony are too niche" as a readily available example), the Epic partnership... And even them sabotaging their own main pillar and reason of existence, with starting to sell partially DRMed games, even in single player.

"Better the evil you know" and all that. EA, Blizzard etc are well known, predictable and everybody knows how they operate and what they stand for. Those people acted out the friendly, the different, the beneficial in order to grow big, then suddenly pulled off a 180 degrees turn. They are the worst, the lowliest and honestly, second-rate now.
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Samwise 1/nov./2021 às 2:22 
Escrito originalmente por Miss Ann Thrope:
Escrito originalmente por Captain Morgan:
It isn't funny, not in the least bit, especially for the old fanbase, those who supported them wholeheartedly once. And Cyberpunk is only the tip of the iceberg. Lots of people pis sed badly and righteously so, at that. Other than taking back the solid foundation of transparency, mutual trust and active communication between service and customers, they have turned out to be somebody else entirely, selling out and even destroying all by themselves, what made them stand out, crushing their very own core values, the very same ones that their employees used to advertize in cheesy videos to earn the gamers' sympathy in the old days. Lots of bad decisions and even straight lies, downright deceit ("many gamers requested devotion to not be released" as an example, right after announcing its supposed arrival), insulting people who wanted them to bring certain games and trolling them even ("Hatred and Agony are too niche" as a readily available example), the Epic partnership... And even them sabotaging their own main pillar and reason of existence, with starting to sell partially DRMed games, even in single player.

"Better the evil you know" and all that. EA, Blizzard etc are well known, predictable and everybody knows how they operate and what they stand for. Those people acted out the friendly, the different, the beneficial in order to grow big, then suddenly pulled off a 180 degrees turn. They are the worst, the lowliest and honestly, second-rate now.

People can be so naive. The primary goal of big companies is to make money. Core values are all secondary, and are sometimes sacrificed along the way. There is no point in giving any company your trust or loyalty... they make a product, and as a customer you buy it. That's as far as the relationship ever actually goes. You shouldn't expect anything else.

I consider videogames as art, like i do movies and music. Calling an album as product to sell to people makes it sound like there was no passion, no interest in making it. It was just made, because that's their job and i don't believe there is any musicians in the world who are making music because they dont like doing it and want to create something greata and inspiring. Its disgusting to hear video game companies treat their own creations like crap and are indifferent about their games, and aren't proud about them.
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Captain Morgan 1/nov./2021 às 3:12 
Escrito originalmente por Miss Ann Thrope:
People can be so naive. The primary goal of big companies is to make money. Core values are all secondary, and are sometimes sacrificed along the way. There is no point in giving any company your trust or loyalty... they make a product, and as a customer you buy it. That's as far as the relationship ever actually goes. You shouldn't expect anything else.
Naive would be somebody who kept supporting them, right after the duping. Also, you can make money just fine, without selling out your very own offered privileges to people preferring your shop, such as fair pricing for instance, which had been both a pillar and an attraction once. Going after earning money and being hooked with excessive greed, are two entirely different matters, dear! Plus, rejecting games that their developers wanted to sell through them and those had hundreds, even thoussands of votes in the wishlist, is nothing less than stupid, especially under the scope of wanting to earn money.

Had you been an old regular there, you would certainly see many valid points, even if you disagree with them when being raised. Literally, they did everything they could, in order to enrage those who wanted to purchase their videogames there. Partly, that was intentional, so as to expand and lure in people who didn't give a sht about their core values, effectively changing targetted audience.
Captain Morgan 1/nov./2021 às 3:38 
Escrito originalmente por Miss Ann Thrope:

I've been following CDPR for a long time. I bought the original Witcher game shortly after it was released, and have been a customer on GOG for many years with around 300 games in my library there. I'm aware of what's going on, and it's disappointing to see. But perhaps I'm too cynical to be angry. As I said, they're just a company trying to make money and looking after their own interests. It's what companies do.
Your cynicism justifies malpractices such as those, because before their eyes, it translates into indifference. Since you had been an old regular there, simply remember the "vote with your wallet" thing.

My games on that platform right before starting to boycott, are 583. And i ain't getting a single one more. I mourn each and every pretty penny i threw at them, because instead of investing them to become better, they simply changed into something, which is almost the complete opposite of what they started as.
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