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swillfly 2021 年 10 月 27 日 下午 11:51
How do you imagine aliens?
Humans have a tendency to anthropomorphize the known & unknown. Probably because it's easier to think of things that appear similar. Regarding aliens I think it's really goofy though. Little green men, greys, reptilians, slender men, etc. are silly imaginings for aliens.

I think insects or microscopic critters like amoeba are more likely. Or something really out there like a inter-dimensional gas entity with protoplasmic tendrils. Or something more lovecraftian like the great film Colour out of Space.
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Luis the Uma Loving Wizard 2021 年 10 月 28 日 上午 11:22 
There are many ways you can

I can think of 3

One is the typical graylien design

The ugly nasty looking type

And lastly, aliens that look similar to humans but have distinctive features
Captain n00by 2021 年 10 月 28 日 上午 11:29 
It's possible there already were aliens in some far off galaxies or solar systems that surpassed us in terms of intelligence, self-awareness, knowledge, etc and that it all happened before we appeared and that they already vanished by now.

I would assume alien life forms would look different to Earth's life forms - Discovery channel had a good series which pictured such "alien life" like flying whales, giant carnivorous mushrooms and such.

But it's all Sci-Fi fantasy since we don't know about alien life forms even in our solar system, much less other systems and galaxies.
Your Mom's Oshi 2021 年 10 月 28 日 上午 11:36 
Mostly single cell organisms and maybe some simple multicell organisms that can survive space being found on some random rock floating around.
Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 12:03 
Well, you have to look at how life has evolved here. We are a minority on the planet. Look at all the different and odd life forms we live alongside. Then look at our planetary history of life forms that didn't make the cut. Scientist actually believe that their might have been a few evolved technical species before us. Heck, we just tracked down a "shadow" evolved subspecies of us.

It is only random chances of fate, environmental shapings, and random evolution that stopped our world from being octopods, crabs, dolphins, spiders, or who knows what.

If you took a planet with an identical composition, mass, orbit from the sun, and sun, it is still going to have a completely different genetic soup, astronomical events, planetary events, and gene dead-end cycles.

They could be blobs, or hive mind bacterial colonies, or sentient singing flora. It is infinitely more likely that anything out there will be so far out in left field we won't have a baseline for comparison to life here. We.might not even recognize it as life. How would a silicate lifeform be understood by us as life? Or a complex hydrogen/cold fusion invisible miasma?

And communication would be neigh impossible. Even if they are perfect copies of us, their entire linguistic history is different. Now how do you communicate with something that uses complex helium chains as talking, or E.M. waves, or an hour long song of radio frequencies with radiation bursts for inflection.

You want to know what comes to mind when I contemplate alien form? The living gas giant collective from Star Control 2. Or the telepathic communication blobs the Ur Quan use from the same game.
Morkonan 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 12:04 
引用自 swillfly
How do you imagine aliens?

First, there's no proof that there are any... That's an upopular opinion, of course. But, while the probability is very likely to be positive if one assumes certain conditions exist, even such an estimate can't yet be proven to be a valid one. We just "don't know." We "assume." But, assumptions are exactly what they say they are.

Looks likes:

For one, bilateral symmetry seems to be really popular among multicellular species and in all biomes on Earth. It's not universal, here, but it does seem to be the dominant theme. And, there are sensible reasons for that since if one loses a hand, one can still have one left. Good idea, Nature. Got an extra liver for me? No? WTF?

Sensory organs are important, it seems. So, there'd likely be some. But, they'd be tuned for the environment they evolved in. In some cases they could have been altered due to preference or even due to "culture." That's a thing, too, so additional sensory apparatuses'ses may be being used that are indistinguishable from natural forms.

Keep in mind that an advanced alien species capable of interstellar travel would likely look like they actually wanted to look like, too. So, if they like lighting trashcans on fire and wearing them on their head, that's what you're going to see. Provided, of course, they don't realize that they may frighten less advanced species who have yet to witness the stylish glory of trashcanheadfires.

It's even possible they may wish to assume a human form simply because they believe that's the best choice in an observation or "First Contact" situation, like "Starman." Yup, they could all look like Jeff Bridges.

There's a natural assumption that is made that, no matter their appearance, there'd be a need for it to be somehow judged by "Evolution" to be efficient. That is untrue. Evolution doesn't care about efficiency. It only cares about whether or not a species can survive to reproduce. If it looks like a busted-up starfish and has perpetual asthma, but multiplies at an astounding rate, Evolution doesn't really care about whether or not other things are very efficient. It'd be sensible, of course, but other conditions can easily manage to control for those things. Corrective shoes, for instance - lots of them. All that matters ishow quickly and easily it can get the chance to bonk and for those bonks to be fruitful. (Transmission of genetic recombinant material carrying critical information a must, though.)

Edit: Missed a spot - Intelligence: They don't have to be particularly brilliant. All they have to do is to be able to get here for us to see them. So, yeah, they could have invented interstellar travel long ago and just evolved to the point where technology never placed any further demands on their intelligence, since it did... everything for them. They may have once been smart, but now Wall-E needs to rescue them.

So, yeah, functional idiots that looked like lopsided badger-starfish-dumpster-fire Jeff Bridges could exist and be on their way, right now... Do you know where your towel is?


All I can say is that I would have high doubts that any "alien" species that evolved from a different source and in a different environment than humanity could naturally look human. Wildly different? Possible. Wildly similar? Possible. Any sort of them existing at all? Dunno, yet.
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Captain n00by 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 2:43 
引用自 The Legend
They'll be adapted to wherever their planet of origin is, or maybe they've been space faring for long enough to where they've fully interfaced with technology, and have adapted genetically to it.

We'd need to see a wide range of examples in how life evolves on other planets with dramatically different conditions in order to come to even a remotely accurate hypothesis about what's even possible. However, I wouldn't be surprised if there's lots of similarities with organisms that evolved on other planets to stuff we have on earth that are adapted to similar conditions. Like jellyfish type creatures, or crustaceans on other planets with water oceans. Or vegetation that's not too unlike some examples on Earth, like something that looks kinda like a cactus, or conifer, or a fern, or a flower, etc.

However, I'd also expect some really bizarre examples, like them finding life in places where nothing on Earth could survive. Like near absolute zero adapted life forms for example, that have a chemical composition that allows them to not freeze even in temps as cold as the surface of Pluto. And who's to say that something couldn't live in the atmosphere of a gas giant? How do they know it's not possible? Maybe they should be looking closer at Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune?

It's interesting that pretty much all planets in our solar systems are different to each other, with different conditions, climates, atmospheres, etc.

If there was to be a duplicate of Earth in some solar system out there (image a two-star solar system) with good conditions for life, maybe it would support some similar life forms than Earth does, but they'd most certainly be evolved differently.

I would say there's a good chance that our solar system supports life forms outside of Earth, but they're probably more on the primitive side - some sort of algae like beings in the frozen oceans of Europa moon maybe.
AustrAlien2010 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 3:15 
To imagine anything is a leap of faith, because the only starting point that you have, is knowing that there are many suns, (because you can see that,) and presumably galaxies further away.
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Vince ✟ 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 3:39 
Microscopic as individual entities holding a form of "life" cycle. As a complex unit, I'd imagine it very much like The Nothing" or perhaps similar to films like The Happening, or that one Keanu flick where the black mass is taking over the world.
Devsman 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 4:01 
I never really picture them in my mind. I usually think of UFOs or traces that they've left behind, or just think in a general sense.
Samwise 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 4:08 
Dead. Of course you can't kill what don't exist.

How they're dead then?
Your_White_Knight 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 4:22 
引用自 swillfly
How do you imagine aliens?

Humans have a tendency to anthropomorphize the known & unknown. Probably because it's easier to think of things that appear similar. Regarding aliens I think it's really goofy though. Little green men, greys, reptilians, slender men, etc. are silly imaginings for aliens.

I think insects or microscopic critters like amoeba are more likely. Or something really out there like a inter-dimensional gas entity with protoplasmic tendrils. Or something more lovecraftian like the great film Colour out of Space.

I don't... just like I don't imagine Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, the Tooth Fairy... etc.
Esoteric 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 4:50 
Dead. Of course you can't kill what don't exist.
There are over a million planets in the universe, do you honestly think Earth is the only one that has life?
Luis the Uma Loving Wizard 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 4:52 
引用自 Sephult
Dead. Of course you can't kill what don't exist.
There are over a million planets in the universe, do you honestly think Earth is the only one that has life?
https://youtu.be/tQLKc3zSLdU
Captain n00by 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 4:59 
引用自 Sephult
Dead. Of course you can't kill what don't exist.
There are over a million planets in the universe, do you honestly think Earth is the only one that has life?

I Googled this but apparently there are an estimated 21,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the Universe.

So considerably more than just a bit over a million.

Also

"It is estimated that the universe contains between 30 and 70 billion trillion stars. Our own galaxy contains 200-400 billion stars."

Space is unimaginably huge.
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