What genre is named today when we talk about "isometric view"?

[Grifo]

Hello, years ago we named hack n slash games that are in isometric view as a camera perspective.

What is the current name of genre when we talk about isometric view, please?

Thank you for your help.

[Grifo]

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

I think its role playing game if you're supposed to identify with the main character. Think that you are the main character, sort of speak. If you're not the main character, but are playing a preset character, its an adventure.

Do you mean for an RPG game or MMORPG, when we choose a character to incarnate and when there is no customization of his physical appearance, it's an RPG (or an ARPG)?

For example, on Diablo 3, we choose preset characters. So, when it is like this, it is called an Adventure RPG. Am I right?

[Grifo]

I just created a dynamic collection with this keyword, Hack and Slash, and some of my Steam games have been automatically placed inside this collection.

[AustrAlien2010]

No, if the developers call Diablo 3 an action RPG, then the title *is* an action RPG. You can't argue with how the developers call the game themself.
That's like arguing with a painter about what he/she painted. The painter should obviously know what he/she painted, because he/she painted the painting.

This is called both an adventure *and* an RPG, for example. I think that is because the player is partly playing a preset character, but also has to make personal decisions, that aren't pre-written into the main character:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/321800/Icewind_Dale_Enhanced_Edition/
A game is still a work of literature, they are written pieces, originated from words, and therefore would most logically be approached and described by following such preconceptions, otherwise it is going to be difficult to say anything coherent about them.

[Grifo]

A better question the person would ask the painter, quite commonly, could be: "What is your idea which drove you before making this painting?". This is a question I could have asked.

I heard about Icewind Dale a long time ago, but I would not buy it because the graphics are too old and it sort of freaks me out. When I play on my own, I prefer playing MMORPG games.

[Gus the Crocodile]

To be pedantic, isometric is a projection technique that eliminates perspective and keeps the xyz axes 120 degrees from each other. If a game is 3D, it is almost certainly not isometric.

(But of course, in games, the term is used to just mean “looking down at an angle”)

[Grifo]

It's true, I was thinking this when I first mentioned the isometric term. It was written like this on games tests newspapers that were published before year 2000.

Like you mention, modern isometric term is relevant for 3D modeling, by the dear developers who make 3D modeling thanks to who we can play games.

[AustrAlien2010]

Yes. They were quasi-isometric. Few were true isometric. They just called the perspective isometric because the perspective seemed isometric.
Anyway, calling quasi-isometric isometric is not false. You could call it like that, and still be right, accept you won't be correct. But people will still know what you mean with it.

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by Caffed:

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It is also true for the term ARPG. For example, for Diablo 3, they say on Blizzard that it is an Action RPG.

Yes - The "action" component is there to imply "real-time action" as opposed to the previous dominant form in that genre, "turn-based" roleplaying game.

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[Devsman]

When I think of isometric camera, I immediately think of strategy games. Then management sims.

[Grifo]

Originally posted by Morkonan:

Originally posted by Caffed:

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It is also true for the term ARPG. For example, for Diablo 3, they say on Blizzard that it is an Action RPG.

Yes - The "action" component is there to imply "real-time action" as opposed to the previous dominant form in that genre, "turn-based" roleplaying game.

There are also regular RPG. I guess we classify Action RPG games with ones where the action is frequent, the pace where you use your skills is quite high, the gameplay needed to kill foes is more brutal.

Turn-based RPG games is what it says to be already, hence tactical. My favorite turn-based is Divinity Original Sin 2, awesome game by the way.

Regular RPG games or MMORPG I would say are games where the intelligence needed to craft, the crafting complexity is higher and where violence phases occur less often than Action RPG.

[AustrAlien2010]

Originally posted by Caffed:

I guess we classify Action RPG games with ones where the action is frequent

I'm not sure if that's true. Characters in a turn-based RPG could still be making actions within a turn. Making such a game safe to call an action RPG, by following that logic.

Would the word "action" not sooner be related to the way how characters are controlled?
Diablo doesn't control like an RTS, in the sense that it is not possible to deselect the main character and select another character. Or select a group of characters. The cursor is always set on one character. In Diablo you can't control more than one character at the same time.
Unless you're playing as summoner.

The character(s) will always be controlled to do "actions". This is a confusing word, because the player decides the frequency in which the actions take place.

Maybe the "action" in action RPG doesn't mean anything specific at all, and its open for interpretation.

If the reader is not familiar with the word, it doesn't seem to mean much, based on the word alone. It is not self-explanitory, if the reader has zero knowledge about the subject matter, and doesn't know what to be looking for.

[Wizardhermit]

This thread just makes me miss Dark Alliance 2 and Champions of Norrath. Although I suppose I could just hook up my PS2 again.

[Masque]

I know it's been derailed, but nothing brings out the "akchually" like the definition of RPG.

I suppose that's *how* it was derailed.