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36564176 2019 年 7 月 24 日 下午 10:52
whats with the mgtow hate?
i just wanna know why you dont like it, sorry for any potential wrongthink cause im not automatically against them.
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Taddy Mason 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:07 
引用自 Rotting In My Chair
引用自 CalistriX

Well, why do feminists group? You could say the same about them.

I thought this was about MGTOW hate not feminism or what feminists choose to do lol I could say the same, but I don't care what they do. It's odd why men who claim to go their own way spend time worrying about feminists & feminism so much.
Probably has something to do with Twitch and all those other cam gurl sites. I understand their feeling that it’s not fair that women get to claim about how hard it is to be a woman in a man’s world and how much people try to keep them down while also being the only gender allowed to make obscene amounts of money just being in front of a camera and doing nothing for anyone. It smacks of hypocrisy.

It’s also probably gotta be at a minimum annoying to see women keep trying to steal incredibly popular intellectual properties made by men and with men as the main characters be reskinned with females instead of males. I would find it kind of insulting if I made a character as popular as...let’s say Thor, the Nordic God of Thunder based on Norse mythology...and someone else just turned him into a woman and claimed it’s done in the name of more equal representation.

I’m always of the mind that if you want more representation in movies, tv, comics, and games-YOU need to make it. How can everyone simultaneously acknowledge that Hollywood is so starved for ideas that they’re rebooting everything AND that Hollywood is desperate for more stories diverse characters that check a ton of boxes-while also thinking that the best thing to do in that situation is steal something a man made and replace their male characters as women? Where’s the creativity?

Would it not seem insulting to you to have someone take something you love and rework it just to have more females AND also so it will piss you off? Cause that’s the part I personally have the biggest problem with. Whether these people lack creativity or the ability to create new and popular characters or stories like the men they’re ripping off or not-part of the reason for why they’re ripping off men’s works is specifically to get a rise out of men. It comes off as instigating or antagonistic.


Personally, I WANT to see more female and minority representation in movies, comics, tv etc-I just don’t want people taking the lazy way out and reskinning male characters to be female and expecting praise for their ingenuity and inclusiveness when they’re also laughing at any man who voices a concern.
引用自 Taddy Mason
Personally, I WANT to see more female and minority representation in movies, comics, tv etc-I just don’t want people taking the lazy way out and reskinning male characters to be female and expecting praise for their ingenuity and inclusiveness when they’re also laughing at any man who voices a concern.

The people to whom you refer are not taking the lazy way out. In fact, it's quite the opposite. They are actively working very hard to eliminate any trace of positive representation for a particular gender of a particular demographic.

You are correct, however, in that they will attempt to heap ridicule, derision and scorn on anyone who sees this clearly and calls it out. The flak is always heaviest when you are right over the target.
iza 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:23 
引用自 Gus the Crocodile
引用自 iza
Fighting a battle which isn't worth on Steam. Why would you debate these people when they've never dealt with any of these related problems that these typical alt-right channels seem to mention? They feel so oppressed, although they never leave the house anyway.
I assure you I don’t post for their benefit, so there is no battle being fought.
I know you don't, I've realized that a long while ago, but just look at them posting, like is that even rational?
Dwerklesberry 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:23 
引用自 Gus the Crocodile
What?

Go look up child support cases for frozen, even stolen sperm.

Consent doesn't factor when convenient, its always a double standard.


引用自 Gus the Crocodile
My body my choice, well men's bodies are sent off to die in wars, while women claim they are entitled to make such decisions for them as well.Men have been the ones traditionally insisting only men are "sent off to die in wars". What decisions are you talking about, though? Women claim they are entitled to make...the decision to send men to war, is that what you mean? As in, by becoming a member of government? Women are clearly just as capable as men to do that.

Women will be free to send women to wars, i'm perfectly consistent with this, but I doubt they'd be able to handle the casualties as studies show that untrained male soldiers out perform female soldiers on even weapons these women specialized in, never mind the rest. I shouldn't have to spell this out for you, one of the primary claims of feminists is that male legislators should have no say over women's body, so like wise, women should never hold the presidency as the president sends men off to die.

The funny part about all this is as much as feminists hate traditionalist males, those are the only ones they really have any power over.
The ones that take them at their word over equality frankly don't give a damn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAqxWa9Rbe0



引用自 Dwerklesberry
They won't what? Ignore the man's part of the responsibility for conception? It takes two, not just one.

Sorry, feminists already check mated themselves on that, sex is NOT consent to parenthood, this is the feminist principle behind the right to abortion.




引用自 Dwerklesberry
What "deal"? There is no deal. Women having control over their bodies is a right, not a transaction.

There is always a deal, your rights, your responsibilities, your money.

Men are not your slaves.
最後修改者:Dwerklesberry; 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:27
iza 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:27 
引用自 Dwerklesberry
引用自 Gus the Crocodile
What?

Go look up child support cases for frozen, even stolen sperm.

Consent doesn't factor when convenient, its always a double standard.


引用自 Gus the Crocodile
My body my choice, well men's bodies are sent off to die in wars, while women claim they are entitled to make such decisions for them as well.Men have been the ones traditionally insisting only men are "sent off to die in wars". What decisions are you talking about, though? Women claim they are entitled to make...the decision to send men to war, is that what you mean? As in, by becoming a member of government? Women are clearly just as capable as men to do that.

Women will be free to send women to wars, i'm perfectly consistent with this, but I doubt they'd be able to handle the casualties as studies show that untrained male soldiers out perform female soldiers on even specialized weapons, never mind the rest. I shouldn't have to spell this out for you, one of the primary claims of feminists is that male legislators should have no say over women's body, so like wise, women should never hold the presidency as the president sends men off to die.




引用自 Dwerklesberry
They won't what? Ignore the man's part of the responsibility for conception? It takes two, not just one.

Sorry, feminists already check mated themselves on that, sex is NOT consent to parenthood, this is the feminist principle behind the right to abortion.




引用自 Dwerklesberry
What "deal"? There is no deal. Women having control over their bodies is a right, not a transaction.

There is always a deal, your rights, your responsibilities, your money.

Men are not your slaves.
Your false sense of reality is amusing, by not providing anything worthy to read, after being on your profile you've been doing this for over 5 years, so yeah I won't argue with people fighting for something that doesn't even affect them.
Dwerklesberry 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:29 
引用自 iza
引用自 Dwerklesberry

Go look up child support cases for frozen, even stolen sperm.

Consent doesn't factor when convenient, its always a double standard.




Women will be free to send women to wars, i'm perfectly consistent with this, but I doubt they'd be able to handle the casualties as studies show that untrained male soldiers out perform female soldiers on even specialized weapons, never mind the rest. I shouldn't have to spell this out for you, one of the primary claims of feminists is that male legislators should have no say over women's body, so like wise, women should never hold the presidency as the president sends men off to die.






Sorry, feminists already check mated themselves on that, sex is NOT consent to parenthood, this is the feminist principle behind the right to abortion.






There is always a deal, your rights, your responsibilities, your money.

Men are not your slaves.
Your false sense of reality is amusing, by not providing anything worthy to read, after being on your profile you've been doing this for over 5 years, so yeah I won't argue with people fighting for something that doesn't even affect them.


And this is the only response when feminism's tent pole issue is destroyed by simply extending the logic a few words more.

"Fake news" is nothing new.
iza 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:31 
引用自 Dwerklesberry
引用自 iza
Your false sense of reality is amusing, by not providing anything worthy to read, after being on your profile you've been doing this for over 5 years, so yeah I won't argue with people fighting for something that doesn't even affect them.


And this is the only response when feminism's tent pole issue is destroyed by simply extending the logic a few words more.

"Fake news" is nothing new.
Except I'm not a feminist, but thanks for the headsup MGTOW fellow.
I recommend using the word logic by providing reliable sources, perhaps scientific studies.
No, breitbart is not a reliable source.
No, Alex Jones isn't either.
Fake news? Are we a drumpster aswell?
最後修改者:iza; 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:32
Radene 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:35 
Good grief, here we go again...
Dwerklesberry 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:46 
引用自 iza
引用自 Dwerklesberry


And this is the only response when feminism's tent pole issue is destroyed by simply extending the logic a few words more.

"Fake news" is nothing new.
Except I'm not a feminist, but thanks for the headsup MGTOW fellow.
I recommend using the word logic by providing reliable sources, perhaps scientific studies.
No, breitbart is not a reliable source.
No, Alex Jones isn't either.
Fake news? Are we a drumpster aswell?

The logic is based on their own principles.

It doesn't get worse then that.

Stop talking about nonsense sources when academia is completely polluted with bad studies, entire departments are based on this corrupt ideology, so stop pretending it has any legitimacy left.

Sources? Google frozen sperm or stolen sperm or frozen embryo child support, its like you didn't even try.

Yes, fake news, you know the original case of Laura Dunn which led to the junk science 1 in 5 study pushed into school book legitimacy and legislation by NPR was itself a case of likely false accusation. A decade of fake news leading to kangaroo courts and yes means yes.

Invalidate every source you have that repeated that 1 in 5 study, including Obama, this is your "breitbart standard", no doubt you only actually hold a double standard.
Plaid 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:49 
After being called MGTOW, I no longer think it really exists.
It's just a supposedly disparaging thing people say.

However, "NO MA'AM" is an actual thing and I'm a proud member.
;)
最後修改者:Plaid; 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:49
Radene 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 7:56 
引用自 Plaid
After being called MGTOW, I no longer think it really exists.
It's just a supposedly disparaging thing people say.

However, "NO MA'AM" is an actual thing and I'm a proud member.
;)

This old brain of mine is completely unable to keep up with the newest internet trends.

What in blue blazes is "NO MA'AM"?
Arvaos 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 8:00 
引用自 linis
引用自 Hyer Womba
clown world

Indeed, one where few people are willing to slow down and listen to each other. Not sure where this term incel started from, but I hate it almost as much as the terms noob, geek and nerd. Things that remind me of the bullying that constantly happens and the hate and indifference that I'm surrounded by when I step out of my house.

It's like high school ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all over again.

Though I'd say we're getting better as we move forward with technology and further social interactions of sorts.

Forget them.

You don't have to conform to anyone elses standard of what a man or a person is.

A decent women will appreciate that you are not a player or cheater.
LHGreen 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 8:02 
It's the ultra-right "alpha male" and "incel" type of thinking taken to their mutual logical extreme. It nicely demonstrates that the two are actually the same thing, or two sides of the same coin, but it also means that it shows the absolute worst of both worlds. All of them are basically the male equivalent of "Femi-nazis", crazy people who genuinely can't tell difference between standing up for their own rights and oppressing the rights of others (which means there's a lot of unintentional irony, pretension, and hypocrisy involved in everything they say), and they think those are one and the same.

The thing is, from what I've read, they've gone so far that they want to divorce themselves from society entirely, which should almost be encouraged. Society is extremely cluttered as it is, and overpopulation is a huge problem, so people who want to leave it and not add more people to it are more than welcome to do so. In a sense, doing so could even be construed as an ethical choice, kind of.
LHGreen 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 8:05 
引用自 Radene
引用自 Plaid
After being called MGTOW, I no longer think it really exists.
It's just a supposedly disparaging thing people say.

However, "NO MA'AM" is an actual thing and I'm a proud member.
;)

This old brain of mine is completely unable to keep up with the newest internet trends.

What in blue blazes is "NO MA'AM"?

More like not-old-enough brain. It's a Married With Children reference. Really funny show, that actually did help break down a lot of barriers in tv.
=CrimsoN= 2019 年 7 月 25 日 上午 8:05 
I always miss the fun topics...

Anyway, MGTOW types are just annoying. Plain and simple. They talk about "men going there own way", yet they constantly just ♥♥♥♥♥ about women. If it's supposed to be about men going there own way, then why do 99% of topics on MGTOW websites and forums constantly complain about women? It's like they are in a constant state of being triggered by the presence of women. MGTOW types are basically just incels.

I have no problem with men who aren't interested in dating and the like ( I used to be like that). I think it's actually very good to value the time you spend with yourself and friends. But when you make it solely about hating women and blaming them for all your problems...well that's not really "going your own way", now is it?

Also men should advocate for there rights. That's a good thing. But again, that doesn't translate to "blame women for all your problems". If you have an issue with the justice system (which is incredibly flawed), then blame the justice system.
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