is anime overtaking hollywood?

[ambi]

what do you think? the anime movie "demon slayer" just recently smashed box office records for a foreign film in the US. meanwhile, the audience for this year's oscar awards crashed by over 50%. do you think people are turning away from hollywood and towards anime and mange for their entertainment?

[♥Peachboy♥]

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Publicado originalmente por Medisoran:

IMO, I don’t think anime is really a innovation...

Hollywood companies like Pixar and Disney are basically just tech companies at this point. Most of the Disney movies I've seen are nothing more than 3D animation tech demos, they don't really tell much of a compelling story.
You don't need a rendering farm with thousands of computers and animators to tell a good story.

No, what I mean is (the following is blanked out to show it is entirely my opinion)

Most anime is the same art style with usually the same stereotypical characters + storylines.

[Ash]

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Publicado originalmente por 🌈☆🎀 𝒜𝓈𝒽𝑒:

Hollywood companies like Pixar and Disney are basically just tech companies at this point. Most of the Disney movies I've seen are nothing more than 3D animation tech demos, they don't really tell much of a compelling story.
You don't need a rendering farm with thousands of computers and animators to tell a good story.

No, what I mean is (the following is blanked out to show it is entirely my opinion)

Most anime is the same art style with usually the same stereotypical characters + storylines.

Not really. You gotta dig a bit to find the gold though. A lot of the mainstream shows like One Piece are just filler trash.

[WhiteKnight]

Anime is way better than Hollywood in every manner.

[Uncle Sam]

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Publicado originalmente por Medisoran:

No, what I mean is (the following is blanked out to show it is entirely my opinion)

Most anime is the same art style with usually the same stereotypical characters + storylines.

Not really. You gotta dig a bit to find the gold though. A lot of the mainstream shows like One Piece are just filler trash.

Same can be said about old school Hollywood movies & regular TV shows. Every entertainment media is filled with "trash" and "mass produced content" for the masses. Example would be the Avengers & Marvel movies; and Naruto and One Piece, etc. IMHO of course.

Nowadays the difference is Anime, at least tries to innovate sometimes and hasn't been intervened by SJW's type of crap, yet. Taking into account that, Anime is seeing "in general" more appealing sales numbers & amount of public gathered around it.

However Bollywood & Wakaliwood, might take over given a few years of trial & error.

[gugnihr]

Hollywood movies quality dropped really badly in the last 20 years, and maybe even before, people are tired of it.

The quality of many anime at least in my opinion dropped really badly too and I don't know why but less people get tired of them and they still have a big audience.

[Mercy]

yes

[Netaris]

Hollywood is dead and it's a good thing. :)

[Chimp Factory [M04]]

Publicado originalmente por gugnihr:

Hollywood movies quality dropped really badly in the last 20 years, and maybe even before, people are tired of it.

The quality of many anime at least in my opinion dropped really badly too and I don't know why but less people get tired of them and they still have a big audience.

I agree on the decline of quality overall [films, videogames, many things]; common factor is greed, formulas and complacency; being made painfully obvious in Hollywood in recent years IMO, for now other producers like the anime studios seem to put more actual effort and thought into convincing me to spend money on them by being more entertaining in the entertainment industry. Money was always the goal, but some actually put in the effort to earn it.

Where Anime is rolling down a hill by having mostly similar themes with a few standout titles, Hollywood is plunging off a cliff then going back up to fall off again in a remake.


Good titles would always rise to the top while the forgettable ones will be forgotten, it was always the case and thats one reason why we think older films were better; but I will say I am hard pressed to find any gems in recent years from personal experience or personal recommendation ['professional reviewers' are mostly fanciful paid advertisers].

[Ramonkey]

Publicado originalmente por SMIFFY:

No

[Masque]

Publicado originalmente por Chimp Factory M04:

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Seems like if greed were a factor in this, they'd be making stuff that makes lots of money. Aside from the rare Pixar movie, seems like they've all said, "We don't care if it loses money, we're making it anyway!!!"

[Walach]

I tried watchin anime a long time ago, I loved it, but then I noticed that so, so many of the where the same thing. Same characters, same story, same structure, etc.

I stopped watching Hollywood movies as they felt the same aswell. It was a good first couple of movies but in the end they just make the same thing over and over again. I've watched 2 superhero movies and then I didn't want to watch one more.

I believe, in my case, that there is just to much stuff happening to quickly. I loved the poker playing scenes in the old Star Trek series, just watching people do something normal and talk about stuff. And don't get me started on almost every single cartoon, they are pure adrenaline. :P

But to finally give an answer, I think, do you really not think this might just be a outlier? I mean, you only mention one movie so maybe it's just a one time thing and the next time we're all back to ye ol' ways? Heh. Also I wonder what "thing" that has been going on over the years that might have done something why the Oscars aren't visited as much? ;)

Seems like an extreme reaction to me, but to be fair, I wouldn't be sad if it was true!

[Netaris]

From my point of view, the decay of Hollywood is the decay of american influence on us. I see it as a great opportunity to break free from this suffocating grip of "uncle Sam". Japan have no wish to spread his ideology or give moral lessons to everyone. So, yes, I hope animes and mangas gonna crush Hollywood for good. Or something else, like Bollywood, as long as it's not american.

[FedEx Noelle]

Japan is good at making one thing. Cars. I certainly hope that Japan never gets a hand in American cinema. Not because American cinema is "bad." I think a lot of movies anymore are still pretty decent and by no means bad at all.

[Exiled Alchemist]

Hollywood has fallen into a hot mess of forcing movies to focus on controversial ideologies, politics, and current events that it has forgotten it's roots. Films where made as a form of art that helped the common person break away from the chaos of the world around them. When you take away what people used as an escape/break from reality then you loose them as a viewer/consumer.

Even US sports, music, and just about all other US forms of entertainment has been effected by the same problems that Hollywood has shown for the past 10+ years. Thus a good chunk of the people in the US have moved on to explore the options available from other countries. Thus the demand created for not only anime & manga, but just about any other imported form of entertainment.

[Masque]

Publicado originalmente por Walach:

I tried watchin anime a long time ago, I loved it, but then I noticed that so, so many of the where the same thing. Same characters, same story, same structure, etc.

I'm no expert, and I don't know if it qualifies as "anime", per se, but I think if you watched the Studio Ghibli films, you'd change your mind. Absolutely incredible stuff.