If a werewolf bites a zombie, does the zombie become a werewolf or does the werewolf become a zombie?

[AdahnGorion]

Since steam OT is so philosophical and has so many users with high wisdom, I reckon some of you might know the answer to this very hard question..
Personally I think the Zombie becomes a werewolf draugr... That scares the hell out of me.

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After a while I become disinterested in disproving or proving every single minor point someone brings up in contention. Mental engagement takes energy and sometimes I'd rather let my points fall into dereliction than defend them ad nauseam.

My sources should speak for themselves:
George R. Romero's Night/Dawn/Day/Survival of the Dead
White Zombie
28 Days Later
Zombieland 1 & 2
Teen Wolf
An American Werewolf in London
The Howling 1 & 2

I noticed a distinct lack of longistic, nature, and wilderness videos in that list. Almost like Fictionwriters don't look into the boaring details of how reality works.

Maybe you will be the first fiction writer that will create a story about zombies that includes realistic nature and wilderness plot points?

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I noticed a distinct lack of longistic, nature, and wilderness videos in that list. Almost like Fictionwriters don't look into the boaring details of how reality works.

Maybe you will be the first fiction writer that will create a story about zombies that includes realistic nature and wilderness plot points?

Because "zombies all get eaten by animals and fall off cliffs or snagged on plants" doesn't make good entertainment.

[Holografix]

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Maybe you will be the first fiction writer that will create a story about zombies that includes realistic nature and wilderness plot points?

Because "zombies all get eaten by animals and fall off cliffs or snagged on plants" doesn't make good entertainment.

Ding, ding ding!!! We have a winner ladies and gentlemen!
lol

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

Carrion animals will eat dead and rotting flesh. Buzzards, vultures, centepeeds, maggots. Their insides are built to deal with necrotic meat. The majority of life on the planet will avoid carcases, because they are programmed to avoid it or die from it.

Animals are not going be anywhere near the walking dead. They will have no natural predators, and the only way an animal might attack one is if it was being attacked or couldn't escape.

Environmental threats are a bigger risk. Especially since zeds are going to go blind pretty quick. No fluids, no blinking. A good windy day is going shread their eyes. But, unless it gets it's head smashed, it doesn't matter if it breaks stuff falling. It will just drag itself along.

And 28 days/weeks is not a zombie movie. While they do have a virus, they are still very much alive. Just really angry. Living does not a zombie make.

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Because "zombies all get eaten by animals and fall off cliffs or snagged on plants" doesn't make good entertainment.

Ding, ding ding!!! We have a winner ladies and gentlemen!
lol

We're also not talking about zombies in the universe of those movies, are we? You said if I saw a zombie everything would be over, meaning that you think a zombie invasion could theoretically succeed when all of those factors are in play, which they aren't in fiction.

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Carrion animals will eat dead and rotting flesh. Buzzards, vultures, centepeeds, maggots. Their insides are built to deal with necrotic meat. The majority of life on the planet will avoid carcases, because they are programmed to avoid it or die from it.

Animals are not going be anywhere near the walking dead. They will have no natural predators, and the only way an animal might attack one is if it was being attacked or couldn't escape.

Environmental threats are a bigger risk. Especially since zeds are going to go blind pretty quick. No fluids, no blinking. A good windy day is going shread their eyes. But, unless it gets it's head smashed, it doesn't matter if it breaks stuff falling. It will just drag itself along.

And 28 days/weeks is not a zombie movie. While they do have a virus, they are still very much alive. Just really angry. Living does not a zombie make.

They only avoid carrion because of bigger predators. There's a good Youtube video of a bunch of animals eating a dead elephant carcass over a long period.

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Ding, ding ding!!! We have a winner ladies and gentlemen!
lol

We're also not talking about zombies in the universe of those movies, are we? You said if I saw a zombie everything would be over, meaning that you think a zombie invasion could theoretically succeed when all of those factors are in play, which they aren't in fiction.

From my post #40:

Zombie:
George Romero's zombie is the Ur-zombie for me and therefore the truest form. Romero's zombie is slow and lumbering and can only be killed by destroying its brain. You might think that decapitation would be 100% successful but as we learn in Romero's Day of the Dead, zombies continue to display motor function even after they've been mutilated or sliced up. A zombie head might pose no threat, but if you're going to be absolutely sure that it cannot get back up remember Zombieland's Rules of Engagement: Always Double Tap.

I think that a zombie event would most likely happen in the way Romero's films describe. That's why a collected my data from those films. I agree with [Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍] that the zombies in 28 Days Later are not actual zombies. Though I disagree that a zombie needs use of its eyes for anything.

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Putting aside the fact werewolves dont have to bite a victim, putting aside the fact who the hell wants to sink their teeth into rotting flesh werewolf or not i imagine this.

Werewolves have healing qualities (how vast i dont know) so probably would burn off the infection . If they couldnt then they would be turned.

As for the other way around, can you turn a pile of non blood pumping rotting flesh into a fully functioning warm blooded creature ?

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We're also not talking about zombies in the universe of those movies, are we? You said if I saw a zombie everything would be over, meaning that you think a zombie invasion could theoretically succeed when all of those factors are in play, which they aren't in fiction.

From my post #40:

Zombie:
George Romero's zombie is the Ur-zombie for me and therefore the truest form. Romero's zombie is slow and lumbering and can only be killed by destroying its brain. You might think that decapitation would be 100% successful but as we learn in Romero's Day of the Dead, zombies continue to display motor function even after they've been mutilated or sliced up. A zombie head might pose no threat, but if you're going to be absolutely sure that it cannot get back up remember Zombieland's Rules of Engagement: Always Double Tap.

I think that a zombie event would most likely happen in the way Romero's films describe. That's why a collected my data from those films. I agree with [Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍] that the zombies in 28 Days Later are not actual zombies. Though I disagree that a zombie needs use of its eyes for anything.

What's the top speed of a head? Less than a KPH? How long does a head take ro decompose? They can't roll since that's not how muscles work so they need to bite the ground to move and gums are pretty quick to decompose, as are tongues.

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From my post #40:

I think that a zombie event would most likely happen in the way Romero's films describe. That's why a collected my data from those films. I agree with [Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍] that the zombies in 28 Days Later are not actual zombies. Though I disagree that a zombie needs use of its eyes for anything.

What's the top speed of a head? Less than a KPH? How long does a head take ro decompose? They can't roll since that's not how muscles work so they need to bite the ground to move and gums are pretty quick to decompose, as are tongues.

This isn't John Carpenter's The Thing where a head can crawl away by itself. I was only making a point that if you decapitate, just make sure you destroy the brain too. Like so many people in Romero's film, you could just happen to trip and fall right next to a zombie's decapitated head and the next thing you know -- you're nursing a fresh zombie bite...

[DarkCrystalMethod]

Depends on the type of zombie...
Evil Dead 2(slow, plodding, dumb)
28 days later(zoombies)

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

First, virus might kill bacteria that causes decay.

Second, vision is important. Go take a walk in the woods with your eyes closed. And it plays a big part in the Romero movies

Third, fresh dead, sure, a shambling corpse a month dead, no. And what kind of animals are where you live? Animals avoid people. And in a world of the dead, animal populations are going to explode. The will have plenty of food. No reason to attack the planets new apex predator.

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First, virus might kill bacteria that causes decay.

Second, vision is important. Go take a walk in the woods with your eyes closed. And it plays a big part in the Romero movies

Third, fresh dead, sure, a shambling corpse a month dead, no. And what kind of animals are where you live? Animals avoid people. And in a world of the dead, animal populations are going to explode. The will have plenty of food. No reason to attack the planets new apex predator.

If they don't decay and retain their memories then honestly what's the harm in letting them take over?

If traveling between cities then animals further from civilization will be more willing to attack people. Animals are always looking for new food and that far from civilization it won't matter if people are around or not.

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First, virus might kill bacteria that causes decay.

Second, vision is important. Go take a walk in the woods with your eyes closed. And it plays a big part in the Romero movies

Third, fresh dead, sure, a shambling corpse a month dead, no. And what kind of animals are where you live? Animals avoid people. And in a world of the dead, animal populations are going to explode. The will have plenty of food. No reason to attack the planets new apex predator.

No reason to assume other animals are immune to the virus. Just imagine if all life wasnt, we would be screwed when it spread to insects.

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

-_-

Zeds certainly wouldn't maintain much more than the best age of their minds. They don't breath, oxygen deprivation is going turn it into a mess of popped out brain cells and runny chemical memory chains. So they might remember things, but not much. Bub and Buck were zombie geniuses.

And I wouldn't assume animals would be ammune, but I would think it would stick to mammals.

Which I am now imagining a zombie whale. And it is epic.