Is it rly that bad barely eating fruit?

[Candyy]

Does something rly bad ll happen to me if i barely eat fruit...

I just dont rly like fruit...

[Matthias]

Messaggio originale di Hathaway:

Messaggio originale di ⚜⤥MegabytzZ | Matthias⤦⚜:

So you are telling me that it was better in the times where red heads were burnt because they were accused of beeing witches, starving was common everywhere, death by a simply giving birth, people working 24/7 to stay alive etc? I don't get your point.

Yes, natural selection was needed for evolution to get us to this point but why should we try to evolve further? There is basically nothing that we could evolve that benefits us which we can't do ourselves.

The idea that comfort is what makes life living will return us to exactly the things you fear.

What you believe is evolving further is likely not that at all. Modern notions all converge on dysgenic preferences. The girl who put gorilla glue in her hair has 6 children, and the childless are happy to pay for it, this is what we choose now.

Well, yes but that has nothing to do with eating fruit the whole year.
There are factors that reverse evolution, at least on a cognitive level but that has other reasons such as a higher birthrate in underdeveloped families but thats a whole different topic.

Messaggio originale di Gus the Crocodile:

Your previous post, that you're criticising the response to, wasn't about "all day" though, it was about "all year".

There is literally nothing wrong with including fruit in your diet all year round. There is absolutely a problem with eating fruit all day, but nobody was proposing that.

Yes, something being available in modern times doesn't mean it's good, but it doesn't mean it's bad either. Judging everything just by what was possible for our ancient ancestors is not sensible.

Thanks, you did a way better job getting my point across than I did.

[Hathaway]

Messaggio originale di ⚜⤥MegabytzZ | Matthias⤦⚜:

Thanks, you did a way better job getting my point across than I did.

Not sure why you are back patting each other when both of you deliberately missed the wider point of humans being evolutionarily adapted for thousands of years based on conditions which are nothing like the mcdonalds land we face today.

[Gus the Crocodile]

I didn’t miss it, I read your post. I wasn’t interested in discussing what you were interested in discussing, so I didn’t. The thread is about fruit.

[Trickster]

Messaggio originale di Candyy ♡:

Messaggio originale di Neko Carl:

Just barely eat them more often then.

But i dont rly like them

I only eat 1 fruit per 4 days (or even a week or 2)

you ea7 more fruit than me lol

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

depends but you can actually get most of your vitamins and amino acids from diets. The key is to be consistent.

We learned in basic biochemistry that your body adjusts and having a certain compound like say excess potassium or nitrogen can be recycled through various bacteria to help get amounts of what you need.

the basic ingredients you need for having an average lifestyle:

-beans=very important source of protein. Basically like any legumes are great for you. Good fiber too.

-Rice=very VERY important more than beans. In fact Asians subsisteted on this alot and did fine just lacking a bit of vitamin A UNTIL GOLDEN RICE WAS INVENTED OR RATHER GROWN

-tomato=various proteins and carotiene. The old is it a fruit or vegetable works both ways b/c of the stuff inside of it plus it has seeds and is green. It's actually considered a low key citrus btw.

-potato=same as rice. Just need a bit of milk and you can live off potatoes like the Irish did until the blight

-wheat=bread and such as carbohydrates

-milk=tons of calcium and vitamin D aside from sunlight you can't get it naturally. In terms of stuff like butter, cheese, etc. anything with dairy is good to go

-meat=very nutritious and in protein.


If you have even half of these you can live but gotta have potato, tomato, or rice as a base.

Basically pizza with fries and some chili on the side is the optimal source of everything.

That or a burger with cheese and chili with some fries.


though fruit helps mostly through extra sugar / carbohydrates and the succulent fruits like watermelon, melon, and citruses help especially with oranges or lemons which people use ALOT to cook with as a spice during or prepping like a marinade.



So you technically CAN live off without fruit but it helps to have some.

The whole food pyramid you learned as a kid with base carbohydrates (breads and wheats) for fuel.

Then fruits and veggies for sugars, amino acids, vitamins, and most nutrition.

Then meats beans grains and dairy for massive reserves of protein, some vitamins and amino acids you couldn't otherwise get from just fruits and veggies.

And finally fats oils and sweets like cakes and saturated fats like cooking oil or butter or lard. Basically these are the end things. You still wanna eat oils with veggies b/c you can't process veggies naturally. You need to emulfisy them in oil like how oil doesn't mix with water. You need oil to have veggie vitamins and nutrition pass through certain membranes and be absorbed into your body.



But again you can eat certain foods and your body will make up the rest so long as you have enough of the others like say you're lacking vitamin D your body can make some but you'll need some sun and alot of excess others. In a way like trading with bacteria. You have sooo much wood but need steel a trader (bacteria) can use the wood to power some machine and make steel. You'll need like 10 pieces of wood but you got tons of wood you can pretty much make it up.

[Matthias]

Messaggio originale di Hathaway:

Messaggio originale di ⚜⤥MegabytzZ | Matthias⤦⚜:

Thanks, you did a way better job getting my point across than I did.

Not sure why you are back patting each other when both of you deliberately missed the wider point of humans being evolutionarily adapted for thousands of years based on conditions which are nothing like the mcdonalds land we face today.

Thats just a problem if you're overweight, which is not even 15% of the population where I live, I bet more than 15% would've starved if we had such low access to food as some centuries ago.

Again, we also didn't evolved to get medically treated, should we let now everyone die because they have diarrhea? Yes, our body may not be completly adjusted to our time but thats no reason to ignore the benefits we have.

Moderat consum of fruits is the whole year very healthy, just because our bodies aren't adjusted it doesn't mean it's bad for us.

[Start_Running]

Well you're really missing out. I mean there's just a something magicall about taking a bite out of a properly ripened fuji or honeycrisp apple. A nice sugarloaf pineapple, or a juicy and refreshing starfruit.
Fruits do contain a lot of vitamins minerals and enymes that your body needs, and you can make up for this with vitamin supplemenmts but comeon. That'd be like having pizza directly inswertted into your stomach.

[Delta]

People who do the low-carb keto diet don't eat much fruit and they seem fine. They can have 1/2 cup blueberries or raspberries everyday and that's all. Any more will push them out of ketosis

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Messaggio originale di Start_Running:

Well you're really missing out. I mean there's just a something magicall about taking a bite out of a properly ripened fuji or honeycrisp apple. A nice sugarloaf pineapple, or a juicy and refreshing starfruit.
Fruits do contain a lot of vitamins minerals and enymes that your body needs, and you can make up for this with vitamin supplemenmts but comeon. That'd be like having pizza directly inswertted into your stomach.

Too bad you can't easily readily digest them. Hence why kid lunches are given like a fat greasy steak or burger with apple slices or orange slices.

More so for veggies

[☎need4naiim☎]

Try fruit jams; such as Raspberry jam, Strawberry jam, Peach jam, Sour cherry jam, Apricot jam, Rose jam... etc. They are great when you smear them on butter or on milk cream over bread. Classic breakfast attendees...

[Hathaway]

Messaggio originale di ⚜⤥MegabytzZ | Matthias⤦⚜:

Messaggio originale di Hathaway:

Not sure why you are back patting each other when both of you deliberately missed the wider point of humans being evolutionarily adapted for thousands of years based on conditions which are nothing like the mcdonalds land we face today.

Thats just a problem if you're overweight, which is not even 15% of the population where I live, I bet more than 15% would've starved if we had such low access to food as some centuries ago.

Again, we also didn't evolved to get medically treated, should we let now everyone die because they have diarrhea? Yes, our body may not be completly adjusted to our time but thats no reason to ignore the benefits we have.

Moderat consum of fruits is the whole year very healthy, just because our bodies aren't adjusted it doesn't mean it's bad for us.

Again you are pulling out the most extreme edge case to avoid dealing with the evolutionary implications of what we were actually evolved to survive on.

We have open heart surgery, just eat mcdonads!

but since you bring it up, there is a cost for everything, we are likely becoming weaker because of modern medical science, and you want to add on top of this a delusion about what is a natural diet?

Our bodies haven't adjusted much at all, the rate of modern changes vastly out paces biological evolution, in fact things like medical science only slow the rate of change by compensating for negative effects, this is why the past matters.

[Matthias]

I'm talking about how moderate cosume of fruits is healthy and your answer is something along "mcdonalds is unhealthy" as argument ehy you should eat fruits only half a year.

I think I'm gonna end the discussion here, it makes no sense to argue with you. Take this jester award and leave please.

[Angel]

Hate to say it but I'm on team fresh fruits and vegetables. It's because they aren't processed like other foods that have hidden sugars and fat contents, etc. You can probably survive OK without them but it will come at the cost of your body to some extent.

~ From a guy who had fruit and vegetables plants in his backyard (home grown are the best!)

[Moogal™]

I recommend eating half an apple, half an orange and 1 banana each day.

[RRW359]

Messaggio originale di Hathaway:

Messaggio originale di ⚜⤥MegabytzZ | Matthias⤦⚜:

Thats just a problem if you're overweight, which is not even 15% of the population where I live, I bet more than 15% would've starved if we had such low access to food as some centuries ago.

Again, we also didn't evolved to get medically treated, should we let now everyone die because they have diarrhea? Yes, our body may not be completly adjusted to our time but thats no reason to ignore the benefits we have.

Moderat consum of fruits is the whole year very healthy, just because our bodies aren't adjusted it doesn't mean it's bad for us.

Again you are pulling out the most extreme edge case to avoid dealing with the evolutionary implications of what we were actually evolved to survive on.

We have open heart surgery, just eat mcdonads!

but since you bring it up, there is a cost for everything, we are likely becoming weaker because of modern medical science, and you want to add on top of this a delusion about what is a natural diet?

Our bodies haven't adjusted much at all, the rate of modern changes vastly out paces biological evolution, in fact things like medical science only slow the rate of change by compensating for negative effects, this is why the past matters.

There are still people getting similar amounts of calories and nutrients to what we got when we were hunter-gatherers. There's a reason places where that isn't the case have higher life expectancies and quality of life.