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WhispersOfTheWind 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 9:57
Do you think that cars will ever be driven by joysticks?
Does this seem feasible to you or do you think this is ridiculous?

Please take a moment to comment/discuss.

I think aeroplanes already have them and I've seen this one film clip where the cab driver had this feature. I also feel that due to lack of technology steering wheels have been implemented in the past but due to the technology oriented society we are thriving for, it wouldn't seem so ridiculous to me if cars had joysticks as a method of control.

Clip in question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWgrvNHjKkY
最后由 WhispersOfTheWind 编辑于; 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 9:58
引用自 Radene:
As long as they only move in two dimensions, you don't need a joystick.
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/. 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 9:59 
I can see some Tesla that drives automatically but has an optional joystick for boomers that still remember when cars didn't drive themselves.

I think it's stupid, but I think it's not so ridiculous that it wouldn't happen. It's in the realm of possibility and stupidity simultaneously.
WhispersOfTheWind 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:01 
引用自 Ƥlatinum Ⱥngel
I can see some Tesla that drives automatically but has an optional joystick for boomers that still remember when cars didn't drive themselves.

I think it's stupid, but I think it's not so ridiculous that it wouldn't happen. It's in the realm of possibility and stupidity simultaneously.
Excellent comment, kind of makes you think huh.

Interesting, thanks for the input. I sort of agree without the 'stupid' prefix. :P But I get you.

Also excellent choice of brand for something like this I think.

Something practically more feasible than just plain cars would I think be aeroplane/car combos of the future.
最后由 WhispersOfTheWind 编辑于; 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:03
Abisha 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:05 
I would rater drive a car with a keyboard joysticks is so 1980's
WhispersOfTheWind 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:06 
引用自 Abisha
I would rater drive a car with a keyboard joysticks is so 1980's
:) It takes some getting used to I reckon.
WhispersOfTheWind 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:13 
引用自 Miss Ann Thrope
Saab once made a car that was controlled with a joystick. Needless to say, it didn't catch on.

https://youtu.be/o2Wa_AIrWRE
Really? Wow, that's awesome I think in the context of cars with a joystick. Video's very interesting, I didn't know it existed (the car). Thanks for sharing.
SMIFFY 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:39 
No it's a stupid idea, you're removing a lot of control over your car by having one.

WhispersOfTheWind 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:41 
引用自 SMIFFY
No it's a stupid idea, you're removing a lot of control over your car by having one.
Why would you assume that?

Are you saying that aeroplane (fighter) pilots are ought to use a steering wheel for better 'precision'?

I just think in a context like that, that a joystick is simply more precise, however regardless people feel or think about it.
最后由 WhispersOfTheWind 编辑于; 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:41
Z i o ⚡ 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:50 
If it's one of the joysticks that respond to your force on the stick and stay mostly in place it wouldn't be as bad as one that only controls by moving it, but it's still better suited for controlling an aircraft. If a car does have one it would look better if it has aircraft kind of aesthetics. Steering wheels work better for wheels. It would be weird using a joystick for controlling how much the wheels are turning. Also using a joystick just for leaning left or right seems kind of dumb. In an aircraft the joystick controls how much you're making an aircraft roll, and you use pedals to control yaw.

Also I tried using a joystick in some driving games before. It's not easy.
最后由 Z i o ⚡ 编辑于; 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:51
SMIFFY 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:54 
引用自 HellsWind
引用自 SMIFFY
No it's a stupid idea, you're removing a lot of control over your car by having one.
Why would you assume that?

Are you saying that aeroplane (fighter) pilots are ought to use a steering wheel for better 'precision'?

I just think in a context like that, that a joystick is simply more precise, however regardless people feel or think about it.
An aeroplane is high up in the sky, it doesn't need anything like the same amount of precision as driving on a road.
Imagine having to swirv out of the way of something unexpected on the road using a joystick, you'd almost certainly cause an accident.
WhispersOfTheWind 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:55 
引用自 ヤヒヤ
If it's one of the joysticks that respond to your force on the stick and stay mostly in place it wouldn't be as bad as one that only controls by moving it, but it's still better suited for controlling an aircraft. If a car does have one it would look better if it has aircraft kind of aesthetics. Steering wheels work better for wheels. It would be weird using a joystick for controlling how much the wheels are turning. Also using a joystick just for leaning left or right seems kind of dumb. In an aircraft the joystick controls how much you're making an aircraft roll, and you use pedals to control yaw.
Interesting, you are on point there. Controlling the 'yaw', still doesn't make the aircraft turn I believe (to a minimum amount) but correct me if I'm wrong. The wings or 'joystick' is there for that in the end.

引用自 ヤヒヤ
Also I tried using a joystick in some driving games before. It's not easy.
Did you happen to get any personal success out of this?

I drive in online racing games like rally and circuit racing with it. I have gotten quite proficient at it as of late (not to be the best more like 20-30 seconds or more behind in rally and in circuit racing it depends) but the weird thing is that after learning how to use it in games, I never had much trouble with it. All it takes is a little adjustment for most games, which is kind of weird.

引用自 SMIFFY
引用自 HellsWind
Why would you assume that?

Are you saying that aeroplane (fighter) pilots are ought to use a steering wheel for better 'precision'?

I just think in a context like that, that a joystick is simply more precise, however regardless people feel or think about it.
An aeroplane is high up in the sky, it doesn't need anything like the same amount of precision as driving on a road.
Imagine having to swirv out of the way of something unexpected on the road using a joystick, you'd almost certainly cause an accident.
This is the thing right here, we are kind of assuming when we state that because we simply haven't tried it, and I believe if we could it wouldn't be that weird I think.

It's not as dramatic as some of you portrait/think about it I feel.

Also, you very much need precision in air. Super fine precision I think, manipulating or controlling choppers or helicopters as well as aerocraft or planes.

It doesn't seem that way because flying usually encompasses long distances ea the steering's very finite but we all know they have to make maneuvers sometimes.
最后由 WhispersOfTheWind 编辑于; 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:59
Doctor Go-Go 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:03 
honestly I believe that would increase the rate of accidents. People go drinking it might make them, a little horny. They see the long shaft like thing there and they would get an idea, lose control. Next thing you know the car would be erratically swerving all about.

I should sell my comic genius rather than giving it to Valve for free. :steamfacepalm:
WhispersOfTheWind 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:09 
引用自 Doctor Go-Go
honestly I believe that would increase the rate of accidents. People go drinking it might make them, a little horny. They see the long shaft like thing there and they would get an idea, lose control. Next thing you know the car would be erratically swerving all about.

I should sell my comic genius rather than giving it to Valve for free. :steamfacepalm:
Like the gentleman previously sort of suggested it, this would be solution to combine with an 'AI' like auto-pilot, where the steering's only there as a secondary.

People who drink shouldn't go driving by default even if the control method was psionic.
Doctor Go-Go 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:22 
引用自 HellsWind
引用自 Doctor Go-Go
honestly I believe that would increase the rate of accidents. People go drinking it might make them, a little horny. They see the long shaft like thing there and they would get an idea, lose control. Next thing you know the car would be erratically swerving all about.

I should sell my comic genius rather than giving it to Valve for free. :steamfacepalm:
Like the gentleman previously sort of suggested it, this would be solution to combine with an 'AI' like auto-pilot, where the steering's only there as a secondary.

People who drink shouldn't go driving by default even if the control method was psionic.

Consider the following trend. As walking down the street or through a parking lot you may notice several of the cars rocking back to front.

Not that you think about it that could boost sails simply because the vehicles would have more utility.
SMIFFY 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:24 
引用自 HellsWind
引用自 SMIFFY
An aeroplane is high up in the sky, it doesn't need anything like the same amount of precision as driving on a road.
Imagine having to swirv out of the way of something unexpected on the road using a joystick, you'd almost certainly cause an accident.
This is the thing right here, we are kind of assuming when we state that because we simply haven't tried it, and I believe if we could it wouldn't be that weird I think.

It's not as dramatic as some of you portrait/think about it I feel.

Also, you very much need precision in air. Super fine precision I think, manipulating or controlling choppers or helicopters as well as aerocraft or planes.

It doesn't seem that way because flying usually encompasses long distances ea the steering's very finite but we all know they have to make maneuvers sometimes.
A steering wheel lock is lets say 1¼ turns from centre (450 degrees). What you're asking is for it to be reduced to, what, less than 40 degrees? The car is going the be weaving about at the best of times and will just crash during an emergency manoeuvre when the wheels are steered their full extent within an instant out of panic.
WhispersOfTheWind 2020 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:28 
引用自 Doctor Go-Go
引用自 HellsWind
Like the gentleman previously sort of suggested it, this would be solution to combine with an 'AI' like auto-pilot, where the steering's only there as a secondary.

People who drink shouldn't go driving by default even if the control method was psionic.

Consider the following trend. As walking down the street or through a parking lot you may notice several of the cars rocking back to front.

Not that you think about it that could boost sails simply because the vehicles would have more utility.
LOL.

引用自 SMIFFY
引用自 HellsWind
This is the thing right here, we are kind of assuming when we state that because we simply haven't tried it, and I believe if we could it wouldn't be that weird I think.

It's not as dramatic as some of you portrait/think about it I feel.

Also, you very much need precision in air. Super fine precision I think, manipulating or controlling choppers or helicopters as well as aerocraft or planes.

It doesn't seem that way because flying usually encompasses long distances ea the steering's very finite but we all know they have to make maneuvers sometimes.
A steering wheel lock is lets say 1¼ turns from centre (450 degrees). What you're asking is for it to be reduced to, what, less than 40 degrees? The car is going the be weaving about at the best of times and will just crash during an emergency manoeuvre when the wheels are steered their full extent within an instant out of panic.
If you've got 180 degrees of 'turning' room for controlling the car completely from one side to another, meaning from left to right for instance. Then you'd still have 90 degrees for each side of the car. 90 degrees seems plenty of maneuvering room to me, I tells ya.

Joysticks are very precise and in light of the future, we might exchange them at some point because steering wheels are just too cumbersome.
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