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MADanger Nov 24, 2020 @ 6:28pm
Let's get rid of the ESRB
The ESRB is a racket non-profit. It charges developers hefty fees to review games and assign a rating. THIS COST IS PASSED ONTO CONSUMERS.

Very few people care about these ratings. Parents buy M rated games for their kids all the time. And in the era of online retailers, any kid with a debit or gift card can order an M rated game and have it delivered to the house.

A whopping 2/3 of parents don't care whatsoever what a game rating is.

https://kotaku.com/two-thirds-of-parents-admit-they-dont-bother-checking-v-5901395

https://www.techspot.com/news/75509-most-parents-dont-pay-attention-game-age-rating.html
Last edited by MADanger; Nov 25, 2020 @ 8:42am
Originally posted by crgzero:
I never cared what my kids played, I feel I taught them well enough to understand that videogames aren't reality, AND I didn't let the electronics raise them either.
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Originally posted by Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:
If there isn't a video game self management system the government will impose one.

You won't want that.
True Story.
Just take a look at the German BPJM... you really don't want that!
RRW359 Nov 24, 2020 @ 9:06pm 
Originally posted by Wouselz:
Originally posted by Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:
If there isn't a video game self management system the government will impose one.

You won't want that.
True Story.
Just take a look at the German BPJM... you really don't want that!
If you think the government can only go to extremes then it will.
crgzero Nov 25, 2020 @ 12:10am 
It is dated for sure and only ever worked with Karen level mothers anyway.
I think the UK needs to do away with their peggi system. They do the same thing as the esrb.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Nov 25, 2020 @ 12:24am 
Originally posted by Tender Cornhole:
The ESRB is a racket non-profit. It charges developers hefty fees to review games and assign a rating. THIS COST IS PASSED ONTO CONSUMERS.

Small chunks of change...

The ESRB has a fee for rating games and that fee depends on how much the game cost to develop. If the game cost more than $250,000 dollars the fee would be $4,000 dollars, if the cost of development was less than $250,000 dollars the fee would be $800.

How does that impact costs for consumers? It doesn't.

Even better... https://www.esrb.org/blog/esrb-extends-no-cost-rating-service-to-all-digitally-delivered-games/

:qr:
Last edited by cSg|mc-Hotsauce; Nov 25, 2020 @ 12:25am
Originally posted by Gus the Crocodile:
Originally posted by Tender Cornhole:
The United States of America has this beautiful thing called the Bill of Rights. This document prevents government from infringing on First Amendment rights (like video games).
Okay, but it doesn't prevent the government putting stickers on game boxes.

Or parental advisory stickers on music.
Alistair Nov 25, 2020 @ 12:31am 
Originally posted by crgzero:
It is dated for sure and only ever worked with Karen level mothers anyway.

Yea, my parents often act like these ratings are the law >:(
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The nameless Gamer Nov 25, 2020 @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by Tender Cornhole:
Supposedly, but it stupid. Kids are playing M rated games all the time.

Just because they can and do, doesn't mean they should. There is a thing as a target audience for a reason. Rockstar didn't make their games for children who haven't even hit puberty. And there should be a way to make people aware of what the target audience is.
Gus the Crocodile Nov 25, 2020 @ 1:47am 
Originally posted by The nameless Commander:
There is a thing as a target audience for a reason. Rockstar didn't make their games for children who haven't even hit puberty.
Course they did, they just can't actually say that.
RRW359 Nov 25, 2020 @ 1:55am 
Originally posted by The nameless Commander:
Originally posted by Tender Cornhole:
Supposedly, but it stupid. Kids are playing M rated games all the time.

Just because they can and do, doesn't mean they should. There is a thing as a target audience for a reason. Rockstar didn't make their games for children who haven't even hit puberty. And there should be a way to make people aware of what the target audience is.
Didn't EA say one of the reasons they almost didn't approve of making Battlefield 1 was because they didn't think the youth cared about events prior to Vietnam? That's basically admitting that they want kids to buy M rated games.
Last edited by RRW359; Nov 25, 2020 @ 4:51am
Originally posted by RRW359:
Originally posted by The nameless Commander:

Just because they can and do, doesn't mean they should. There is a thing as a target audience for a reason. Rockstar didn't make their games for children who haven't even hit puberty. And there should be a way to make people aware of what the target audience is.
Didn't EA say one of the reasons they almost didn't approve of making Battlefield 1 was because they didn't think the youth didn't care about events prior to Vietnam? That's basically admitting that they want kids to buy M rated games.

Originally posted by Gus the Crocodile:
Originally posted by The nameless Commander:
There is a thing as a target audience for a reason. Rockstar didn't make their games for children who haven't even hit puberty.
Course they did, they just can't actually say that.

That's twisted. Nothing else to say there.


MADanger Nov 25, 2020 @ 8:31am 
My two kids (11 and 13) play Grand Theft Auto V. Who cares? Whatever video game they want, I will buy it.
it's love Nov 25, 2020 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by Tender Cornhole:
My two kids (11 and 13) play Grand Theft Auto V. Who cares? Whatever video game they want, I will buy it.
your personal decisions don't validate your "nobody cares about these ratings" statement in the OP though, there are people who care, even if you don't
MADanger Nov 25, 2020 @ 8:38am 
2/3 of parents (66%) don't care either. I updated my OP with the links.

So since the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY (66%) of parents don't care what rating a game has, why do we have the ESRB again? Why do companies like Target, Walmart, etc. hold developers hostage to getting a rating?

All smoke and mirrors: "See, we did something!"

It serves no purpose for the majority of game buyers.
Last edited by MADanger; Nov 25, 2020 @ 8:39am
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crgzero Nov 25, 2020 @ 8:40am 
I never cared what my kids played, I feel I taught them well enough to understand that videogames aren't reality, AND I didn't let the electronics raise them either.
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