Going vegan

[Natural Love]

Anyone here thought about to become a vegan?Or do you think meat will never leave your plate.There are plenty of reason to become one but there are also a lot of downsides

[Schindler's Lifts]

Vegetarian, maybe. But eggs, dairy and honey are such a central part of my diet that I don't think I will.

[UwU King👑Pikachu]

Candyy ♡ eredeti hozzászólása:

I think there are more downsides of this than upsides

not you think , it 's it is

[Candyy]

UwU King 👑 Pikachu eredeti hozzászólása:

Candyy ♡ eredeti hozzászólása:

I think there are more downsides of this than upsides

¿not you think , it 's it is?

Not understanding what are you trying to say -.-

[Gus the Crocodile]

Have been for about...seven years now? Giving up meat was trivial, giving up cheese was the hard part.

[Esoteric]

Candyy ♡ eredeti hozzászólása:

I think there are more downsides of this than upsides

According to most articles I've read there's actually a lot more health benefits.

[Haruspex]

Yes and no. I gave up meat two years ago. I was on a kick of watching travel videos, and one was of a Wuhan meat market. All kinds of animals for sale, including dog. Some dogs came pre-skinned, and their carcasses were just draped over the cages of the live dogs who were just waiting patiently to be killed and sold. Now I had no delusions of where my meat comes from, but something about that 2 second scene as the camera walked through the market resonated with me. I looked over at my own little dog who was sleeping comfortably in the other chair. He's basically a member of the family, and I thought. "What's the difference?"

Why are cows considered a food item, but dogs are something you love and share your life with? Those dogs in that meat market, from the perspective of the buyer and seller, are really no different from a cow.

I made the decision then and there to go vegan. I dove into it hard, but in doing so I found an ugly side to veganism.

"Vegans", with a capital "V", can be an arrogant and elitist group of people. Many of them always seem to be trying to out-vegan each other, and if you're less vegan, well then you're no better than those chicken nugget eating murderers!. I absolutely did not feel like I belonged in any of the vegan communities on the Internet. They're toxic and horrible.

I didn't go back to eating meat after that experience, but my eating and consumption strategy and philosophy has changed the past couple of years. I don't call myself "vegan", because vegans tend to be a toxic, elitist, holier-than-thou bunch of A-holes.

I don't consume meat or dairy.

I do consume on occasion chicken eggs if they were raised free-range. Typically if my neighbors have some backyard eggs they want to offload, I may buy a dozen off them. It's not something I seek out though.

When shopping for clothes, I try and avoid leather. I'm not getting rid of the leather belts or the expensive leather jacket I already own though. I'm intrigued by producers of "no-kill wool", where they raise and shear sheep, but let them live out to their natural end.

I have absolutely zero problem consuming farmed, bivalve shellfish. I don't think of them as a conscious animal with thoughts and feelings. Farming bivalves like oysters and clams also has zero impact to the environment, and filters toxins from the oceans. They're a very responsible and sustainable protein source.

I don't place insects on the same level as other animals. Yes, insects are an important part of the ecosystem, but I also think they may be the protein source of the future. Insects are "simpler" animals. I don't worry if an item I purchase contains dye derived from beetle shells, I'll happily munch on crispy fried and seasoned crickets from Mexico, and I have no issue with the use of honey. (That last part got the vegans very angry with me.)

I do not force my dog to consume a vegan diet. I do compromise and feed him a fish-based diet, instead of a beef or chicken based diet. I don't want to toy and experiment with his health and well-being. If they made a farmed-shellfish and insect based dogfood, I would probably give him that.

There's a bit more to my philosophy, but that's the gist of it. I can't reasonably be called a vegan. Vegetarian is also not an appropriate label thanks to my use of shellfish and insect products. My approach doesn't seem to have a label, and that's fine with me. Labels are stupid.

[Enigmatic]

Easy to go full vegetarian if your diet is right.
For instance Buck Wheat has all 9 essential amino acids and reliably be a huge source of protein.
Many Super foods that can replace meat entirely and only things you will see are upsides and feel more energy.

[UwU King👑Pikachu]

Candyy ♡ eredeti hozzászólása:

UwU King 👑 Pikachu eredeti hozzászólása:

¿not you think , it 's it is?

Not understanding what are you trying to say -.-

*I think there are more downsides of this than upsides *

you said you think it has more negative effect than positive effect to be a vegan


but that's a fact and true , it is not you think ( maybe it is )

[↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect]

No i will not give up meat eggs or dairy for no one.

[slowdeath]

i dont think i could go vegan ive just been trying to cut out red meat with limited success

[Azami]

I don't understand how you can get your protein. I mean sure milk, nuts, etc. But having meat is easier and faster.

I can't find the video but there was a guy who was a vegan and decided to go back to eating meat after he realized that meat improved his physical well being.

He ended up owning a meat factory but the animals died from natural causes or treated well before they died.

My brother tried going vegan and i end up having to tell him that being a vegan is extremely hard. If your willingess is to lose weight, then why are you not willing to find out the right foods to eat that also include meat?

But it's your life.

[secuda]

Not full time, but everytime meat goes bad in the fridge. Juck.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Marc eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't understand how you can get your protein. I mean sure milk, nuts, etc. But having meat is easier and faster.

Mostly beans, legumes, nuts. Protein isn't a problem.

Getting it from meat is "easier and faster" when that's what you're used to, sure. But it's about habit-forming. Once you're in the habit of eating a balanced vegan diet, then it's no longer "hard", because it's just "what you do".

Besides, nobody goes vegan because they want the easy way out :)

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

I think vegans are kinda cool if they aren’t against meat eaters.I use natural care because it has less chemicals and animals don’t get hurt but when i buy meat i always look at the seal as well….i love meat too much to stop it and i would be really restricted everywhere

[Azami]

Gus the Crocodile eredeti hozzászólása:

Marc eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't understand how you can get your protein. I mean sure milk, nuts, etc. But having meat is easier and faster.

Mostly beans, legumes, nuts. Protein isn't a problem.

Getting it from meat is "easier and faster" when that's what you're used to, sure. But it's about habit-forming. Once you're in the habit of eating a balanced vegan diet, then it's no longer "hard", because it's just "what you do".

Besides, nobody goes vegan because they want the easy way out :)

Sure but why not find the right kind of meat that also gives you nutrition values as well? Why remove meat when you can have both meat and vegan food? Note i am not a nutritionist.