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KT Chong (차단됨) 2020년 9월 18일 오후 4시 58분
TikTok and WeChat download ban begins Sunday, full ban on Nov 12 (in the US)
If you have either TikTok and WeChat installed on your phone, the app will continue to work. However, both apps will be removed from Apple App Store and Google Play store. So, starting on Sunday, Americans will not be able to download TikTok or WeChat, and current users will no longer be able to update TikTok or WeChat in the future.

The FULL ban will begin on November 12: that is when TikTok and WeChat will STOP working on iPhone and Android. I use Android devices. Google has in the past removed apps that I HAD PAID FOR and were already installed on my Android devices... AND GOOGLE REMOVED MY APPS WITHOUT MY PERMISSION! Google did not give me a refund either. (F- you, Google.) Not sure if TikTok and WeChat will get the same treatment.

Sources:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/tech/tiktok-download-commerce/index.html

https://www.cnet.com/news/tiktok-wechat-downloads-will-be-barred-from-us-starting-sunday/

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-banning-all-tiktok-downloads-from-september-20-2020-9
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Azza ☠ 2020년 9월 18일 오후 9시 01분 
C²C^Guyver |NZB|님이 먼저 게시:
And Azza. Is forgetting one key point here. The nature of Tik Tok: To be seen. So, you use a VPN to bypass the bain the US. People start posting videos even though they app itself is banned. The jigs up because you just let the people who imposed the ban, know that you're still using the app.

Checkmate.

I don't consider censorship a game to be played. It's more a concern, even if you didn't use that certain product, these apps are just the first two pawns. What happens next and next. There will be bounce back ripple effects to occur. That's a given.

There are a few billion of users on Tiktok. One being my little cousin who likes watching some Americans, such as Merrick Hanna, on there.

Some people won't take that sudden cut from an addiction. They might wish to still sneak on and merely view.

Also, if there's no TikTok and way to bypass, then all those individuals will end up flowing into something else. The so-called "cringe" you wanted to avoid ends up coming over to your own social media platforms.
Azza ☠ 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2020년 9월 18일 오후 9시 11분
Holografix 2020년 9월 18일 오후 9시 18분 
cyberluddite님이 먼저 게시:
KT Chong님이 먼저 게시:
The FULL ban will begin on November 12: that is when TikTok and WeChat will STOP working on iPhone and Android. I use Android devices. Google has in the past removed apps that I HAD PAID FOR and were already installed on my Android devices... AND GOOGLE REMOVED MY APPS WITHOUT MY PERMISSION! Google did not give me a refund either. (F- you, Google.) Not sure if TikTok and WeChat will get the same treatment.

Google doesn't need your permission, you voluntarily gave it by agreeing to the Terms of Service when creating your Google account. As for the refund, you didn't buy the apps from Google; you bought the license giving you permission to use an app developed by a third-party company that authorized Google to be a vendor that sells the app to you.

Google didn't screw you over. Apple didn't screw you over. China didn't screw you over.

You screwed yourself over. This is how the real world works, it's not the end of the world but it is an important lesson to learn about life in general -- people suck, adhesion contracts aren't fair, and China can't cook anything worth s***.
cyberladdie telling us how the world works...XD
REAL WORLD NEWS Y'ALL lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK2MoObq42Y
A̸̙̪͆r̵̟̫̀̿͐͜c̸̑͠님이 먼저 게시:
Hope Fortnite gets banned next.

You may just get your wish. Along with league of legends and maybe rocket league. I hope epic games gets banned in the usa also.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-government-epic-games-inquiry-tencent-china-2020-9
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Meove 2020년 9월 18일 오후 9시 23분 
well, good for them
C²C^Guyver |NZB| 2020년 9월 18일 오후 9시 30분 
Azza ☠님이 먼저 게시:
C²C^Guyver |NZB|님이 먼저 게시:
And Azza. Is forgetting one key point here. The nature of Tik Tok: To be seen. So, you use a VPN to bypass the bain the US. People start posting videos even though they app itself is banned. The jigs up because you just let the people who imposed the ban, know that you're still using the app.

Checkmate.

I don't consider censorship a game to be played. It's more a concern, even if you didn't use that certain product, these apps are just the first two pawns. What happens next and next. There will be bounce back ripple effects to occur. That's a given.

There are a few billion of users on Tiktok. One being my little cousin who likes watching some Americans, such as Merrick Hanna, on there.

Some people won't take that sudden cut from an addiction. They might wish to still sneak on and merely view.

Also, if there's no TikTok and way to bypass, then all those individuals will end up flowing into something else. The so-called "cringe" you wanted to avoid ends up coming over to your own social media platforms.
lol.. Please. Do you see anyone on that app discussing anything remotely meaningful or having to do with civil rights or rights in general? You're defending a dung heap.
Starbug 2020년 9월 18일 오후 9시 31분 
davidb11님이 먼저 게시:
Someone missed the information that TikTok was bought out by Oracle

I didn't know that! Thanks, David.
Exiled Alchemist 2020년 9월 18일 오후 9시 48분 
Never used them in the first place:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVXJmfd3cmg
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[FFK3] Trovaa 2020년 9월 18일 오후 10시 16분 
wechat shouldn't be banned but the only good thing abt 2020 could possibly be tiktok being banned.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| 2020년 9월 18일 오후 10시 34분 
Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at님이 먼저 게시:
C²C^Guyver |NZB|님이 먼저 게시:
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lol.. Please. Do you see anyone on that app discussing anything remotely meaningful or having to do with civil rights or rights in general? You're defending a dung heap.

- You have watched every video on Tik Tok? I sincerely doubt that.
- Have you even watched 25% of them?

I sincerely doubt that given the vast amount of uploads they receive.

I sincerely doubt that you are omniscient or have explored even 1% of what Tik Tok's 500 million users, worldwide, have to offer.

Your assessment is like aliens landing in a ghetto where people are doing drugs & engaging in gang wars & then assuming that the entire world is like that.


Not to mention, the higher, more important, issue here, at play, is one of that old poem "First They Came..."


cyberluddite님이 먼저 게시:
...
CNN is the only one not saying anything... other than fake news.
Pretty sure they're not fake but rather extremely biased.
Which is very similar but not quite the same thing.

But yeah, CNN is the flipside of extreme bias to Fox News.
I eat catfood.


:seewhatyoudid: [/quote]
I've seen enough to know that it will not be missed if it never comes back.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| 2020년 9월 18일 오후 10시 37분 
......and post manipulation gets you in a lot of trouble here.
Azza ☠ 2020년 9월 18일 오후 10시 37분 
C²C^Guyver |NZB|님이 먼저 게시:
Azza ☠님이 먼저 게시:

I don't consider censorship a game to be played. It's more a concern, even if you didn't use that certain product, these apps are just the first two pawns. What happens next and next. There will be bounce back ripple effects to occur. That's a given.

There are a few billion of users on Tiktok. One being my little cousin who likes watching some Americans, such as Merrick Hanna, on there.

Some people won't take that sudden cut from an addiction. They might wish to still sneak on and merely view.

Also, if there's no TikTok and way to bypass, then all those individuals will end up flowing into something else. The so-called "cringe" you wanted to avoid ends up coming over to your own social media platforms.
lol.. Please. Do you see anyone on that app discussing anything remotely meaningful or having to do with civil rights or rights in general? You're defending a dung heap.

Defending from a paranoid xenophobia of distrust, which is more than just a mere 2 apps. I consider the apps merely pawns to play in the chess game.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| 2020년 9월 18일 오후 10시 40분 
Azza ☠님이 먼저 게시:
C²C^Guyver |NZB|님이 먼저 게시:
lol.. Please. Do you see anyone on that app discussing anything remotely meaningful or having to do with civil rights or rights in general? You're defending a dung heap.

Defending from a paranoid xenophobia of distrust, which is more than just a mere 2 apps. I consider the apps merely pawns to play in the chess game.
The tin foil hats are over there -----> 25 cents each
Azza ☠ 2020년 9월 18일 오후 10시 45분 
C²C^Guyver |NZB|님이 먼저 게시:
Azza ☠님이 먼저 게시:

Defending from a paranoid xenophobia of distrust, which is more than just a mere 2 apps. I consider the apps merely pawns to play in the chess game.
The tin foil hats are over there -----> 25 cents each

You have no idea the rabbit hole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaC57tcci0

The Social Dilemma shows you watch is already happening on the American side, they just became paranoid if they are already doing it, perhaps others might be too.

When an app is free, it's no longer a product, but rather you are that product. Advertising collects personal data for targeting. Yet it's gone beyond that now, to shape human behaviours and create movements. Positive or negative doesn't matter.

Tiktok users can create movements, huge movements. Like they did to the Trump rally. Hense why he wants to get rid of it.

Why you think China has a firewall to shape information flows. It's the same deal.

The privacy factor isn't the issue, hell that's worst in American's own products and companies. It's just a masked excuse to put over a much more complex issue.
Azza ☠ 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2020년 9월 18일 오후 10시 48분
conf 2020년 9월 18일 오후 10시 49분 
hi
C²C^Guyver |NZB| 2020년 9월 18일 오후 10시 50분 
Azza ☠님이 먼저 게시:
C²C^Guyver |NZB|님이 먼저 게시:
The tin foil hats are over there -----> 25 cents each

You have no idea the rabbit hole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaC57tcci0

The Social Dilemma shows you watch is already happening on the American side, they just became paranoid if they are already doing it, perhaps others might be too.

When an app is free, it's no longer a product, but rather you are that product. Advertising collects personal data for targeting. Yet it's gone beyond that now, to shape human behaviours and create movements. Positive or negative doesn't matter.

Tiktok users can create movements, huge movements. Like they did to the Trump rally. Hense why he wants to get rid of it.

Why you think China has a firewall to shape information flows. It's the same deal.
........ and you have no idea what you're talking about. The US government and the communications industry have been in bed together for decades upon decades. If you are an IT security expert you would know that..but..

So your little fantastic idea about using a VPN to use the app is laughable and stop believing everything you see on YouTube.


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