Is Being a Pescetarian Hypocritical?

[Jinn-Gon Qui]

This came to my mind just recently. While I always say that "you are what you eat" and that we should all gather our food naturally, by hunting and farming it; or have someone for us to NATURALLY do so than the industrial meat-grinders, I also don't have a problem with hunting as someone who may technically still be labeled under "vegetarianism". I like hunting (but I don't meat) and I like fishing.

Morally, I feel bad about "land" animals and that's part of the reason I stopped eating meat, including birds. But I never cared about birds and don't have a problem with hunting or killing them (for others at least because I still do so naturally than purchasing them off the market), or fish for this specific matter, if I go out on a boat to literally fish out my food. I don't have the same feeling for "sea" animals as I have for "land" animals, and yet I always liked fish; stating it's the best of both worlds.

That still raises the question, however. I'm not preaching this in ideological standards, and decided this by nutritional purposes, but am I a hypocrite for caring about "land" animals, yet don't have a problem with hunting ANY animal whatsoever, while being a fish-eater?

[Starbug]

I'd say it is, yes. But only if you try to call yourself a vegetarian. Otherwise it's just a foodstuff choice you made.

[GamingOnly69 Retreats_To_Cave]

you care about whatever you care about
no rules about the feeling of care

[Jinn-Gon Qui]

Originally posted by Starbug:

I'd say it is, yes. But only if you try to call yourself a vegetarian. Otherwise it's just a foodstuff choice you made.

Well, I have called myself a vegetarian while basically eating everything except meat since in a way eating fish is technically vegetative, but not really.

[Holografix]

Originally posted by Jinn-Gon Qui:

Originally posted by Starbug:

I'd say it is, yes. But only if you try to call yourself a vegetarian. Otherwise it's just a foodstuff choice you made.

Well, I have called myself a vegetarian while basically eating everything except meat since in a way eating fish is technically vegetative, but not really.

I'm a vegetarian. I eat fruits, vegetables and bread with an occasional egg. I don't eat any meat. If you're eating fish you're not a vegetarian. Fish, fowl, beef, pork are all meats.

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

Fish feel pain and distress just as much as land animals, I dont think its fair to not care about fish just because they share a different part of the earth with us.

[Jinn-Gon Qui]

Originally posted by Holografix:

Originally posted by Jinn-Gon Qui:

Well, I have called myself a vegetarian while basically eating everything except meat since in a way eating fish is technically vegetative, but not really.

I'm a vegetarian. I eat fruits, vegetables and bread with an occasional egg. I don't eat any meat. If you're eating fish you're not a vegetarian. Fish, fowl, beef, pork are all meats.

That raises another question. Isn't eating egg technically a murder, or in a sense meat?

Also copied (edited by my own) from Wikipedia (just for the sake of definition):

Pescetarianism,is the practice of adhering to a diet that incorporates seafood as the only source of meat in an otherwise vegetarian diet.

So, it's not that I eat fish everyday, like I would've consumed meat (or fish) everyday back when I used to eat meat. I only eat fish three to four times a day, while adapting and trying to maintain a healthy, vegetarian lifestyle.

[Naedmi]

I've known a handful of Pescetarians who use the excuse that fish don't feel pain, lack any pain receptors or even hardly know they're alive as an excuse for eating them.

But in the end it's a lifestyle choice, and those few Pescetarians don't equal them all. As long as they understand that they are in fact killing something and no moral excuse can change it.

[Jinn-Gon Qui]

Originally posted by Cuttlefish:

No it's not but very often it's fallacious to question the motivations of such diets as it's usually just insecurity about animal rights issues which people ought to confront instead of running away like is typical of being thoughtless and human.

What people challenge is typically one distraction and fallacious piece of ♥♥♥♥ after another.

That's fine and all, from what I understand. If there's a movement to shut down the meat factories and the likes of such industry, that's something far more important than animal's rights, in my honest opinion.

Another thing is, regarding my stance, I was judged for being a vegetarian (although I eat fish, so technically I'm not a vegetarian?).

[Holografix]

Originally posted by Jinn-Gon Qui:

Originally posted by Holografix:

I'm a vegetarian. I eat fruits, vegetables and bread with an occasional egg. I don't eat any meat. If you're eating fish you're not a vegetarian. Fish, fowl, beef, pork are all meats.

That raises another question. Isn't eating egg technically a murder, or in a sense meat?

Also copied (edited by my own) from Wikipedia (just for the sake of definition):

Pescetarianism,is the practice of adhering to a diet that incorporates seafood as the only source of meat in an otherwise vegetarian diet.

So, it's not that I eat fish everyday, like I would've consumed meat (or fish) everyday back when I used to eat meat. I only eat fish three to four times a day, while adapting and trying to maintain a healthy, vegetarian lifestyle.

Eating eggs is certainly a grey area when it comes to vegetarianism. But an egg isn't an animal and therefore not meat. It may turn into a baby chick, but I'm not going to eat that.

And you what? You eat fish 3 or 4 times a day? That's a lot of fish.
And yeah, fish = meat, so you're not a vegetarian.

[Jinn-Gon Qui]

Originally posted by Explosion Hugger:

I've known a handful of Pescetarians who use the excuse that fish don't feel pain, lack any pain receptors or even hardly know they're alive as an excuse for eating them.

But in the end it's a lifestyle choice, and those few Pescetarians don't equal them all. As long as they understand that they are in fact killing something and no moral excuse can change it.

Which is where I stand, then. I know what I'm doing, emotions for the fish aside. I'm basically pro to any lifestyle as long as it's maintained naturally. This only leaves my take on the "land" and quite specifically the vegetarian animals as a subjective matter. I don't care that you put a cow out of its miseries with a .308 Winchester, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ man, it doesn't deserve a slow, painful death. That's where my morals kind of stand.

[Holografix]

It's fine and dandy to have a moral stance about cruelty to animals, but tbh going full vegetarian is really healthy for you. You really don't need the meat for nutrition, so the only thing that has you tied up in moral knots is your 'taste' and 'desire' for meat flavor.

[Holografix]

Originally posted by Cuttlefish:

So anyway, much of what folks will bring up here has nothing to do even with awareness about anything etc. or trying to learn or understand the deep biological questions. More like talking about your shopping lists and stuff.

And it's about more than having a stance etc. if it's based on objective fact that many people REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE.

i read somewhere that cuttlefish are really intelligent creatures. Able to solve complex problems, etc... Is that true?

[Jinn-Gon Qui]

Originally posted by Holografix:

Originally posted by Jinn-Gon Qui:

That raises another question. Isn't eating egg technically a murder, or in a sense meat?

Also copied (edited by my own) from Wikipedia (just for the sake of definition):



So, it's not that I eat fish everyday, like I would've consumed meat (or fish) everyday back when I used to eat meat. I only eat fish three to four times a day, while adapting and trying to maintain a healthy, vegetarian lifestyle.

Eating eggs is certainly a grey area when it comes to vegetarianism. But an egg isn't an animal and therefore not meat. It may turn into a baby chick, but I'm not going to eat that.

And you what? You eat fish 3 or 4 times a day? That's a lot of fish.
And yeah, fish = meat, so you're not a vegetarian.

But that's a hell of a lot less fish than the average, unaware meat eaters (whomever they may be).

As for the eggs, I know that the yolk is just the development of the embryo, but that sounds to me the same as aborting children when they're just at the stage of developing the cells. Whether the life form lacks the intelligence to comprehend, that still sounds like murder to me.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Originally posted by Jinn-Gon Qui:

Which is where I stand, then. I know what I'm doing, emotions for the fish aside. I'm basically pro to any lifestyle as long as it's maintained naturally. This only leaves my take on the "land" and quite specifically the vegetarian animals as a subjective matter. I don't care that you put a cow out of its miseries with a .308 Winchester, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ man, it doesn't deserve a slow, painful death. That's where my morals kind of stand.

You’re typing this on a computer of some kind. Is that a lifestyle that’s ‘maintained naturally’? Is a .308 Winchester ‘natural’?

I’m not trying to play gotcha, just suggesting that ‘natural’ is a fairly meaningless term.

[Holografix]

Originally posted by Jinn-Gon Qui:

Originally posted by Holografix:

Eating eggs is certainly a grey area when it comes to vegetarianism. But an egg isn't an animal and therefore not meat. It may turn into a baby chick, but I'm not going to eat that.

And you what? You eat fish 3 or 4 times a day? That's a lot of fish.
And yeah, fish = meat, so you're not a vegetarian.

But that's a hell of a lot less fish than the average, unaware meat eaters (whomever they may be).

As for the eggs, I know that the yolk is just the development of the embryo, but that sounds to me the same as aborting children when they're just at the stage of developing the cells. Whether the life form lacks the intelligence to comprehend, that still sounds like murder to me.

Murder? Ha. Now you're being funny.