Listening to Rock: with %100 bass or %100 treble?

[りみ]

yeah im really confused as both sounds really great [to me]
LOL

[Masque]

The reason the EQ exists is twofold. Everyone's ears are different, both in how they perceive sound because of age or wear, and the shape of the individual's ear -- and in the size and shape of the area into which sound is being projected: headphones, small room, a car, an auditorium.

Most non-headphone use, my EQ settings (assuming 5-7 bands) look like a seagull's wings, high at both ends, with the tips curved slightly lower, down to slightly under zero at the middle. But it varies by the room, and with headphones usually completely flat, as the track was engineered.

[36564176]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย whatamidoing:

I just listen to music normally without messing with anything

[Fajita Jim]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Boofalo Soja:

The reason the EQ exists is twofold. Everyone's ears are different, both in how they perceive sound because of age or wear, and the shape of the individual's ear -- and in the size and shape of the area into which sound is being projected: headphones, small room, a car, an auditorium.

Most non-headphone use, my EQ settings (assuming 5-7 bands) look like a seagull's wings, high at both ends, with the tips curved slightly lower, down to slightly under zero at the middle. But it varies by the room, and with headphones usually completely flat, as the track was engineered.

Yup. Just changing speaker locations can have a big impact. However: the top of the waveform should ALWAYS be a smooth curve, never a flat top. Need a graphic EQ of course, but you don't want to truncate those waveforms regardless of your environment.

Damn I miss all that totally 80's rack equipment. Remember when the size of your stereo determined whether or not the party was at your house?

[Masque]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Fajita Jim:

Yup. Just changing speaker locations can have a big impact. However: the top of the waveform should ALWAYS be a smooth curve, never a flat top. Need a graphic EQ of course, but you don't want to truncate those waveforms regardless of your environment.

Damn I miss all that totally 80's rack equipment. Remember when the size of your stereo determined whether or not the party was at your house?

Yes. The party was always at my buddy's house, because he had a full keyboard studio in his mom's basement. He had these speakers called "Toa", and they were indeed the biggest speakers anyone his age (HS, and just after) in town had. Having a bar, videogame room, and pool table helped, too, along with the coolest mom in town.

I wish I could understand the parametric EQ. Being able to adjust the frequency of each individual slider on a parametric is absolute Greek to me. Like I said, I can't even figure out the best way to set ONE freq on my sub, let alone a whole rack of 'em.

[Fajita Jim]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Boofalo Soja:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Fajita Jim:

Yup. Just changing speaker locations can have a big impact. However: the top of the waveform should ALWAYS be a smooth curve, never a flat top. Need a graphic EQ of course, but you don't want to truncate those waveforms regardless of your environment.

Damn I miss all that totally 80's rack equipment. Remember when the size of your stereo determined whether or not the party was at your house?

Yes. The party was always at my buddy's house, because he had a full keyboard studio in his mom's basement. He had these speakers called "Toa", and they were indeed the biggest speakers anyone his age (HS, and just after) in town had. Having a bar, videogame room, and pool table helped, too, along with the coolest mom in town.

I wish I could understand the parametric EQ. Being able to adjust the frequency of each individual slider on a parametric is absolute Greek to me. Like I said, I can't even figure out the best way to set ONE freq on my sub, let alone a whole rack of 'em.

To be totally honest, if you want studio-perfect sound, you're going to have to set the EQ for each CD, and these days maybe even for each song.

But what's really destroying sound quality are the studios themselves and the stupid 'loudness war'. Check it out, it's stupid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UjQc0dM4H4

[Masque]

Fajita Jim, to be fair, some old ones really need remasters.

Listen to The Necromancer, by Rush, from '76 or so. You have to turn your volume way up to hear Alex speaking, then way back down for most of the song, then way up again when he narrates again.

[Your_White_Knight]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Boofalo Soja:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Your_White_Knight:

Neither.... both would be a terrible idea to do.

So you mean everyone in the 'hood is wrong?

Heh. I hate that, when all I can hear is bass in some jagoff's car stereo. Shakes windows, sounds like muddy garbage. Ooh! 2000 watts! It's a peen replacement, and that's all it is.

Hood? anywhere... even the 'burbs.... we always laughed at the $1000 garbage car with the $7000 stereo system rumbling and rattling big dust clouds of rust wherever it goes.... ya... that will get you noticed... not by girl but by cops alright, lol. Not to mention you ( and they ) couldn't hear anything but...

BURRR...... BURRRRRRRRR BURRRRRRR BURRRRRRR.... BURRRRRRRR, BURRRRR

as parts rattle and fall off.....

[Masque]

Knight, couldn't agree more. And you can hear the pennies rattling inside the door panels, along with the dried up french fries.

[Fajita Jim]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Boofalo Soja:

Fajita Jim, to be fair, some old ones really need remasters.

Listen to The Necromancer, by Rush, from '76 or so. You have to turn your volume way up to hear Alex speaking, then way back down for most of the song, then way up again when he narrates again.

Not a Rush fan so....burn me at the stake, I guess. But still, they could remaster per channel instead of ruining the whole song by just spiking everything up 20x.

[The Rock God]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Boofalo Soja:

I wish I could understand the parametric EQ. Being able to adjust the frequency of each individual slider on a parametric is absolute Greek to me. Like I said, I can't even figure out the best way to set ONE freq on my sub, let alone a whole rack of 'em.

Maybe you'd like to play with my EQ?
Full range: 31-band graphic equalizer. Per channel. Additional 5-band parametric. Per channel.
Sub: 10-band graphic equalizer. Additional 2-band parametric.

[Masque]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The Rock God:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Boofalo Soja:

I wish I could understand the parametric EQ. Being able to adjust the frequency of each individual slider on a parametric is absolute Greek to me. Like I said, I can't even figure out the best way to set ONE freq on my sub, let alone a whole rack of 'em.

Maybe you'd like to play with my EQ?
Full range: 31-band graphic equalizer. Per channel. Additional 5-band parametric. Per channel.
Sub: 10-band graphic equalizer. Additional 2-band parametric.

Wow. That's hardware? Very imposing setup.

I think I might have all that in FL Studio. Not that I use any of that. It's there, though, like a door I don't dare open.

[りみ]

Oh,sorry for reviving this thread but i got myself some neutral sounding headphones and kinda fell in love with that experience.
So i'd agree with this guy:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The Rock God:

Flattest possible frequency response that can be achieved with the EQ. Listen to the music the way it was intended to sound.