Buying a PS3 in 2018 - i need advice

[Cat Daddy]

Im not sure if ive put this in the right section but im really needing some advice from people who have owned or who still do own a ps3 console. Long story short im wanting to play Tales of Xillia and various other games which WONT be coming to steam anytime in the near future.

Im looking at buying a ps3 console BUT ive been out of the console area for ages now and havent purchased a console since my first xbox360 bricked and i opened it up to see just how badly designed the console was (seriously a laptop fan!? wtf microsoft......) anyways im interested in buying HOWEVER ive found these issues and im kinda stuck and need some advice

1) the actual console itself - Normal fat, Slim - SUPER slim?

Is the SUPER slim actually designed and built better like how the ps2 slim was built better than the original ps2 80's looking model was? or is it actually a case of it being SUPER cheaply made?

2) Model numbers and firemare and everything else......

ok this is were i get seriously lost, i look on ebay for superslim or slim and i see things like Firemare 3.0, firemare 4.4, jailbroken, CSH1002 and CHS2004 etc etc and then oddly some which say DOWNGRADED from update? ......errr.....

Ive no clue what im looking at ps2 console wise because im not sure what any of this actually means

3) Online free or not?

i remember hearing ps network was free on ps3? but now you have to pay for it with ps4? i dont plan to play ANY games online but if i had a big hard drive i would want to download the games to the actual console itself so is there a store i can buy the games from on the ps network and are the games cheap or super expensive now? IE can i get tales of xillia on there for the same price on ebay or is it still asking 40+ for it

4) HDD removable or not?

I heard the ps3 consoles hard drive is an SSD and that its removable? is this true or is it a big fat HDD hard drive? if it is an ssd can i take it out and swap it into another console if the machine itself bricks out

5) The disk reader

straight up question - like the xbox+360+original ps2 is the disk reader on the ps3 crap. I expect to be playing like 5-6 hours straight on a friday/saturday night as this is the ONLy time i can game during the week UNLESS im mega lucky and get a day off during the week. IF i can get a big enough HDD (500gb) for the console i plan to put everything on that instead because i wont want to burn the laser out. If i purchased a disk version of the game can i install it to the hard drive directly? i just dont want junk like microsofts old original xbox THOMSON drive issue


6)psvita on ps3?

i heard some VITA games u can play on the ps3 if u purchase them from the ps network and diownload them to your hard drive. is this true coz i REALLY want to play persona 4 golden


7) The various ISSUES with the console itself

I know the xbox360 had a TON of issues with it from RROD to mega crap fans to dust issues to extreme over heating to some consoles actually catching fire and starting to smoke from the vents. So what can i expect with the ps3? is it ALSO poorly made with a crappy lattop fan which ISNT fit for the job its meant to be doing in the first place? can i expect the fan to be pushing MEGA hard and make a LOT of noise like the 360s does? can i expect the ps3 console to be so hot i could fry an egg on it?

Im just wanting a cheap ps3 were i can have a big ssd hard drive and NOT have to use the laser at all. Im wanting it to be fairly cool and not be super loud or get extremely hot. I just want one for playing some ps3 only games which i wont ever get the chance to play on my pc and if an issue DOES happen with the console i can get a replacement cheaply and just swap out the hard drives easy enough

any advice would be good because im really not sure what to do console wise with this one.

[Omega]

1. Super slim is crap, I prefer the fat and slim models. The super slim doesn't even have a decent disk drive. Look for some pictures of the super slim and you will see.


2. Don't worry about model numbers unless you want to play PS2 games from disk on the PS3.
CECHBxx and CECHAxx you want for playing PS2 games since they have a actual PS2 CPU onboard, but these are the earliest models of the PS3 which were only made all the way back in 2006. CECHCxx and CECHExx are also capable of playing PS2 games from the disk via software emulation. All the other models can only play PS2 games bought from the PS Store.

All those consoles running older versions of the firmware have simply never been patched, some people want those consoles so they can jailbreak them and run their own and/or pirated software on it.

3. Online is free, you don't need PS+ like with the PS4.

4. All models of the PS3 use a normal 2,5" SATA HDD. As far as I am aware they are easily removeable on all models of the PS3, the HDD bay should be accessable from either the side or from the back of the console. Check for video's online on your model on how to remove the drive.

If you want to you can replace it with a new HDD or SSD. Any 2,5" SATA drive will work. If you go SSD a 250gb one will be more then enough.

5. Disc versions of the game can not be fully installed on the HDD, Some games don't even need to be installed at all to be played. A way around this would be buying games from the PS Store.

6. Only if the game is available for both the Vita and PS3, and you bought it in a Vita+PS3 pack on the PS Store which I think doesn't cost any extra.

7. I am not aware of any serious issues with the PS3.


Pro tip: If you are planning on using this console for a long time buy some new controllers now, new PS3 contollers are starting to become hard to find.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

1. I own fat, super slim, friend of mines has the normal slim, by far hands down with no question you want the super slim.

Fat has a flaw for cooling, you have to open the whole bloody thing up, clean the crap out of it if you want it to last long time, I had to realign the chips two times for it, which I got fed up with, which why I went to pick up the super slim, the hot air can easily get trap in the fat PS3.

If the PS3 ever died, at least you get the disk out easily with the super slim.

2. Do not, and I repeat do not get a custom firmware PS3, if you value your PSN account, if not then you have nothing to lose, just don't link your PSN account to it what so ever, as Sony will lock the whole account, which you lose access to everything on that account, the games you bought, movie, etc for digital. Make sure it's using the official firmware, doesn't have to be up to date, just as long it wasn't jailbreak with custom firmware, and wasn't register to be black listed by Sony, which you can call, or email Sony and they can tell you if it's block, or not.

3. Yes, and thank god.

4. Yes they all use 2.5" drives, and all models can be upgraded for storage easily, also you won't benefit with SSD just so you know, due to the slow port they're using. Only PS4 benefit with SSD, but not by much.

5. I don't think the disk reader will be a problem as I had my PS3 since 2007, so that should explain more than enough, and yes I already pounded over thousand of hours into my PS3.

6. Only some games allow to play PS3 to PSP Vita stream, you will have to look that up, it has been proven when someone jailbreak the systems it ran just fine streaming it to your PSP vita, but we don't know why they put those restrictions for it anyways.


7. For design for consoles yes they're all crappy, as you need to clean the dust pretty offend to maintain the system for much longer lifespan, that why get the super slim because there's less crap in the way to blowing the dust out of it, and provides better cooling because there less things that can trap the heat, helping to dissipate the heat better, than the slim, and fat PS3.

[Citizen Cook]

I own a Slim and it's still playing my Blu-ray movies.
I would recommend the Slim. The superslim looks cheap and nasty.
I wouldn't trust the build quality.

[Cat Daddy]

right well i might be aiming for a super slim and only downloading games off the ps store onto the hdd.

i can see alot of games im after currently on sale or really cheap.

am i not able to buy persona 4 golden and play it on my ps3??

so far im looking at these games

tales of xillia 1/2
tales of vesperia
metal gear solid 4
persona 5 (is the dlc worth it or not? any difference between ps3/4 versions?)
heavy rain (this is disk only? so why show it on store if i cant buy)

can anyone reccommend any good ps3 games i might enjoy

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Idk about persona games.

Heavy rain not sure what's going on with that, but I know they upload game trailers, and such, but you have to get it on disk only.

Maybe you might like disgara series, mass effect 2 and 3, Dynasty Warriors Gundam, zone of the Ender's collection, jak and dexter collection, ninja gaiden, and Katamari forever.

[Cat Daddy]

mass effect 2 and 3 i have on pc. if its a good game ive probably already got it on pc if available.

im looking for great console only stuff like tekken tag 2 ect

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

The console only, and good games that I like was disgara 3 & 4, Zone of ender collection, Jak and dexter collection, Ninja gaiden series, Katamari forever, some Dynasty Warriors games, saint row 2, wouldn't count the PC version because it's so broken, people that ported doesn't know how to do it right at all, which the community had to make a mass patch for it, but still very broken, so I wouldn't approve getting the PC version over the console, which everyone that played it would agree.

Takken series good to get.

[Blargo]

Cat Daddy eredeti hozzászólása:

can anyone reccommend any good ps3 games i might enjoy

Any of the:

-Ratchet & Clank games
-Uncharted games
-inFAMOUS games
-WipEout games
-LittleBigPlanet games

And The Last of Us as well.

[BRM62C]

Buy the slim bro.

[MADWACZ]

play Metal gear solid games on ps3, its so good and funny!

[Cat Daddy]

Im looking at buying a ps3 but can someone explain to me why certain games are NOT on the ps store? and why some ARE but they wont let me buy them?

i see heavy rain but it says i have to buy a real copy
i dont see dragons crown.....if i buy a disk copy can i install it to the hdd completely?

I deffo cant play persona 4 golden on the ps3 then? with JUST the ps3 itself

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

The reason why some games are on the store, and not for sale digital, is because they were doing advertisement years ago, which you have to get the physical copy, they didn't think people would have the bandwidth to support huge amount of data for games. Which if you asking now why they didn't change it, well we don't know why they haven't just made it for digital sale.

For some games you're going to have to install the game to the PS3 HDD, and still need the disk. Which mostly they just done this way for optimization reading data from the HDD, than the Disk, but idk why they didn't bother putting it on the PS3 store.

This will answer your last question.
https://store.playstation.com/en-ca/grid/search-game/1?gameContentType=games&platform=ps3&query=persona%204

[Omega]

Cat Daddy eredeti hozzászólása:

Im looking at buying a ps3 but can someone explain to me why certain games are NOT on the ps store? and why some ARE but they wont let me buy them?

i see heavy rain but it says i have to buy a real copy
i dont see dragons crown.....if i buy a disk copy can i install it to the hdd completely?

I deffo cant play persona 4 golden on the ps3 then? with JUST the ps3 itself

There can be tons of reasons some games are not on the PS store.

Sony might not want a certain title in their store, or a dev was not willing to pay the fees Sony demands for the privilage or having a game on their store (if any). Or the devs decided they can earn more money when selling only retail discs.

A game from the disc either installs (partially or completely) or it does not, you have no say in this. A disc is alway required to play games bought on disc.

The emulated PS2 version of Persona 4 is on the PS Store:
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-NPUD21782_00-0000000000000000

[Cat Daddy]

Omega eredeti hozzászólása:

Cat Daddy eredeti hozzászólása:

Im looking at buying a ps3 but can someone explain to me why certain games are NOT on the ps store? and why some ARE but they wont let me buy them?

i see heavy rain but it says i have to buy a real copy
i dont see dragons crown.....if i buy a disk copy can i install it to the hdd completely?

I deffo cant play persona 4 golden on the ps3 then? with JUST the ps3 itself

There can be tons of reasons some games are not on the PS store.

Sony might not want a certain title in their store, or a dev was not willing to pay the fees Sony demands for the privilage or having a game on their store (if any). Or the devs decided they can earn more money when selling only retail discs.

A game from the disc either installs (partially or completely) or it does not, you have no say in this. A disc is alway required to play games bought on disc.

The emulated PS2 version of Persona 4 is on the PS Store:
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-NPUD21782_00-0000000000000000

Ive already got persona 4 on my pc - see

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=935189399

im wanting to play persona 4 GOLDEN as it had a ton of stuff added to it and persona 4 is one of my fav games of all time....i really wana play golden but i cant justify buying a pstv for 60 then 12 for the game and then finding that most other games i want MIGHT not work with the device as sony dropped support for it

[Omega]

Cat Daddy eredeti hozzászólása:

im wanting to play persona 4 GOLDEN as it had a ton of stuff added to it and persona 4 is one of my fav games of all time....i really wana play golden but i cant justify buying a pstv for 60 then 12 for the game and then finding that most other games i want MIGHT not work with the device as sony dropped support for it

All games listed under PS3 on the PS Store will run on your Playstation 3..