Has cheating soiled your opinion of competitive gaming?

[Ulfrinn]

I've had to quit many online PC games due to rampant, blatant, and overt cheating. I won't play CS:GO, PUBG, Apex, Warzone because of it. GTA V I can't even find a lobby where you can go 5 minutes without ships falling from the sky or the sky itself flickering different colors because of it. Even Fall Guys have people obviously cheating when they fly in the air and run 5x faster than anyone else. It's gotten to a point that virtually every single game with a competitive mode, suffers from it.

It has actually had me considering skipping out on buying a new GPU later this year, and buying a console instead as it is less prevalent in a closed system.

Has cheating effected how and which games you play?

And what do you think are some things games could do to solve or at least reduce this problem?

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

I just focus on games that are either Solo or Co-op , only play PVP games once in a while when I really feel like it.

But overall I'd say it's more because of how serious most players seem to be about games then just cheater alone.

[Radene]

Not as much as "hardcore pros" did.

[Alaskan Catfish Hike]

No, I never had a high opinion of it to begin with. If I win yay, if I don’t; it was something to do until the crock pot was ready.

[The nameless Gamer]

There are no cheaters in 2D fighting games and RTS games. Seems like most of the cheaters populate FPS games, so I'm unaffected by them.

[Tiberius]

Yes along with those gatcha and p2w bullshts

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

Not really soiled just made it little bit irritating but manageable.

[Crazy Tiger]

No, people soiled my opinion of competitive gaming. Mostly the people who have the need to yell and be extremely obnoxious when it doesn't go their way.

And I stopped playing online over a decade ago.

[Spud the Spud]

No. Gaming companies have ruined my impression of it, though. Riot, looking at you. Blizzard, you too (there's competition for raiding and world first, as well as pvp ladders iirc, so I'm adding that in there lol).

[Soap]

I’m also surprised at how many people can’t spot cheaters. Sure I have more experience with it than many. I’ve seen its evolution in gaming from some of the first online games. But some cheats are just so obvious and there are so many people who for some reason just believe it’s not possible to cheat in the game they’re playing. They often can’t even spot macroers which are often obvious.

I wouldn’t say that cheaters have soiled my opinion of gaming at all. It’s been a factor in my leaving some games, but not the sole factor.

I wish that companies would put it higher on their priority list. Cheating really is rampant these days, and tech hasn’t caught up to it yet.

Auto-matchmaking works in favor of both cheaters and companies because it’s less work for both to find matches. When a game only provides standard auto-matchmaking then players have no way to escape cheaters. When players don’t see enough being done, it can fuel more cheating.

The most effective anti-cheat I’ve ever seen is simple old server browsers with human moderators for the servers. Of course that can be abused with community run servers. But at least there players have some control over who they play with and finding one or two good community servers is enough to play for years without significant problems.

I have hopes that tech will catch up and in the future we’ll truly have games where it’s impossible to cheat in any way other than in-game exploits.

But right now the punishments need to happen immediately and be done in a way everyone knows a cheater was caught. This waiting till the end of the game or 3 days later after a person looks at it stuff doesn’t cut it. By then the cheater has already caused irreparable harm to one or many more matches. It’s only when the cheater is removed from the game, during the game that it does any real good. When companies don’t do that, then they’re just unfairly subjecting others to griefing and their anti-cheat tech is mostly pointless.

[GunsForBucks]

console isn't going to save you when they push for cross platform

may as well just give up on PVP games at all and enjoy better graphics

or save your money and get another hobby

[Grendalcat]

Nascar logic: if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.

No I don't like Nascar either :P

[Incarnate]

I remember trying out GTA V Online a couple years ago. On literally my second day playing the game my entire virtual bank account from the game was hacked and stolen. (Not that in my pocket but the overall banked sum.) Along with the that of the entire server.

I think it's fair to say that the competitive scene is a pus-oozing boil on the rear-end of the gaming world. Though larger communities will naturally be worse.

[Tito Shivan]

Cheating is ubiquitous. Competitive gamers soiled my opinion of competitive gaming.

I stick to single player games or multiplayer ones who have solid single player gameplay because I don't want my playtime spoiled by a bunch of angry people tryharding at the game.

CSGO Bots may be dumb, but they're reliably dumb... Now if only could Valve update them to work properly in Danger Zone, that'd be great.

[Starbug]

I never had a tremendously positive opinion on competitive PvP games to begin with...

[Tom Braider (666)]

i think that cheaters is POS. at least when u troll some1, it can take skill - it's some sort of creativity. but cheaters r just falling 2 sleep in their chairs while making others angry 4 no reason, just because they can