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Thomas 12/jul./2020 às 11:29
Seeing ads on YouTube with AdBlock
I have it installed but still seeing ads.
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Plaid 12/jul./2020 às 15:19 
Escrito originalmente por Munithe EXT:
Oh UBI means universal basic income. Seems like a terrible idea to me. I don't even see how it can be sustainable especially with the damage it would cause to the value of currency.
Lol! We give trillions away to corporations. They don't pay their workers squat and we pay to subsidize a tax deduction, on taxes they don't even pay!
Talk about devaluing the currency. It devalues the nation, crumbles the economy. Puts people in a state of disrepair
Última edição por Plaid; 12/jul./2020 às 15:21
Sally 12/jul./2020 às 15:19 
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
If you don't want to see ads, use another platform OR buy youtube premium. Go get your news/information from somewhere else where the ads aren't as intrusive.
Congrats, you gain all forum hate, maam!
Mad Scientist 12/jul./2020 às 15:20 
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
you DO pay our bills when you watch our content though, otherwise we'd have to charge like $0.99 an episode or something like that. We provide our content to you for free with ADS, otherwise we'd sell it to you and everyone knows how forced monetization just isn't good for a community.
Fairly certain that's not at all how it works, YouTube is so desperate due to it being notoriously poor that they need to take a large portion of SuperChats to primarily stay operational. Just playing a video doesn't do really anything, and if they program even slightly like I do; if the video ad fails to play, youtube don't get paid, so neither does a content creator. At that point you're just a high disk and bandwidth usage kind of creator that's not worth keeping.
mimizukari 12/jul./2020 às 15:20 
Escrito originalmente por I Was Here But Now I'm Gone:
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
you DO pay our bills when you watch our content though, otherwise we'd have to charge like $0.99 an episode or something like that. We provide our content to you for free with ADS, otherwise we'd sell it to you and everyone knows how forced monetization just isn't good for a community.

But if people choose to use an ad blocker that is their choice and you as a content provider has to deal with it. Also pay your own bills and don't expect others to pay them for you. Just like cable and satellite dish companies have to deal with people who drop them and get free tv over an antenna.
You pay for the subscription service with your TV, a la YouTube Premium. We shouldn't have to 'deal' with it. You should be paying for a YTP subscription or not using ad block, most ads are skippable after 5 seconds, it still gets us paid if you skip the ad, there's no reason to 100% block them and stop the ad server from ever delivering them.
Radene 12/jul./2020 às 15:22 
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
Escrito originalmente por DangerDecapod:

you might wanna rethink everything you are saying right now because right now, you sound like this girl

https://youtu.be/Ov0PqiYB0sw

i mean i will happily pay for ads, but they are multiplying and getting more annoyingly repetitive ,and we dont pay your bills, you dont need to ask people to turn off adblock, thats just plain greedy, you most likely have enough viewers with adblock off already

im not paying ♥♥♥♥ for youtube premium, im using my adblock, and thats final
you DO pay our bills when you watch our content though, otherwise we'd have to charge like $0.99 an episode or something like that. We provide our content to you for free with ADS, otherwise we'd sell it to you and everyone knows how forced monetization just isn't good for a community.

Sorry, but having to watch ads for it instead of paying money doesn't make it "free", and yeah maybe you should just sell it directly. But I have a very strong suspicion about the reason why you don't.
Última edição por Radene; 12/jul./2020 às 15:22
Damn 12/jul./2020 às 15:23 
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
Escrito originalmente por I Was Here But Now I'm Gone:

But if people choose to use an ad blocker that is their choice and you as a content provider has to deal with it. Also pay your own bills and don't expect others to pay them for you. Just like cable and satellite dish companies have to deal with people who drop them and get free tv over an antenna.
You pay for the subscription service with your TV, a la YouTube Premium. We shouldn't have to 'deal' with it. You should be paying for a YTP subscription or not using ad block, most ads are skippable after 5 seconds, it still gets us paid if you skip the ad, there's no reason to 100% block them and stop the ad server from ever delivering them.
You're greedier than Mr. Krabs
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
Escrito originalmente por I Was Here But Now I'm Gone:

But if people choose to use an ad blocker that is their choice and you as a content provider has to deal with it. Also pay your own bills and don't expect others to pay them for you. Just like cable and satellite dish companies have to deal with people who drop them and get free tv over an antenna.
You pay for the subscription service with your TV, a la YouTube Premium. We shouldn't have to 'deal' with it. You should be paying for a YTP subscription or not using ad block, most ads are skippable after 5 seconds, it still gets us paid if you skip the ad, there's no reason to 100% block them and stop the ad server from ever delivering them.
I don't pay for any subscription service with my tv. I use an antenna and get free tv. Stop advertising youtube premium or i might have to report you for your constant advertising of their service. I will continue to use ublock origin for many many many years to come. if it means you take a hit in your bank account oh well get a real job.
Danger 12/jul./2020 às 15:27 
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
Escrito originalmente por DangerDecapod:

you might wanna rethink everything you are saying right now because right now, you sound like this girl

https://youtu.be/Ov0PqiYB0sw

i mean i will happily pay for ads, but they are multiplying and getting more annoyingly repetitive ,and we dont pay your bills, you dont need to ask people to turn off adblock, thats just plain greedy, you most likely have enough viewers with adblock off already

im not paying ♥♥♥♥ for youtube premium, im using my adblock, and thats final
you DO pay our bills when you watch our content though, otherwise we'd have to charge like $0.99 an episode or something like that. We provide our content to you for free with ADS, otherwise we'd sell it to you and everyone knows how forced monetization just isn't good for a community.

then get a real job and stop mooching of your viewers for money
Mad Scientist 12/jul./2020 às 15:28 
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
Escrito originalmente por I Was Here But Now I'm Gone:

But if people choose to use an ad blocker that is their choice and you as a content provider has to deal with it. Also pay your own bills and don't expect others to pay them for you. Just like cable and satellite dish companies have to deal with people who drop them and get free tv over an antenna.
You pay for the subscription service with your TV, a la YouTube Premium. We shouldn't have to 'deal' with it. You should be paying for a YTP subscription or not using ad block, most ads are skippable after 5 seconds, it still gets us paid if you skip the ad, there's no reason to 100% block them and stop the ad server from ever delivering them.
They made that as a last resort option since they're still severely in the red.
That only allows them to pay creators, with the assumption that they have to or have agreed to do so. If someone doesn't watch your videos, they really aren't paying you at all; they paid YouTube to keep their doors open, and the advertisers help to keep the doors open and pay creators.

Using AdBlock to cease videos from functioning saves bandwidth as well, bandwidth is costly and that 5 second video will pre-load a majority of the video rather than only the first 5 seconds; thus bandwidth saved is money saved. If companies would be more in the modern era, especially youtube, they wouldn't need to do this practice as quite frankly; ads are out of date, and anti-ads are stopping from countless wasted bandwidth and portions of pages. If they got more into the modern era rather than making and enforcing silly rules and being political rather than their original "Broadcast yourself", then they'd likely be doing completely fine.

Creators are NOT entitled to anything; not the dis-use of adblocks, not income, not subscriptions, not followers. If people like your videos, they can watch it. If you want guaranteed income, you personally can force a subscription-only model that people en-masse are going to say "no thanks" on, which is why sponsorships are also a thing, otherwise we'd have countless channels/sites dedicated to one person, so the model is not self sustaining overall unless you have something actually worth subscribing to compared to the services users prioritize.
mimizukari 12/jul./2020 às 15:34 
Escrito originalmente por DangerDecapod:
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
you DO pay our bills when you watch our content though, otherwise we'd have to charge like $0.99 an episode or something like that. We provide our content to you for free with ADS, otherwise we'd sell it to you and everyone knows how forced monetization just isn't good for a community.

then get a real job and stop mooching of your viewers for money
YouTube is a real job, just like running a blog that depends on ads for revenue is a real job. Not everyone is capable of being a drone and working 8-5 jobs for less than you get in passive income from ad revenue.
Radene 12/jul./2020 às 15:35 
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
Escrito originalmente por DangerDecapod:

then get a real job and stop mooching of your viewers for money
YouTube is a real job, just like running a blog that depends on ads for revenue is a real job. Not everyone is capable of being a drone and working 8-5 jobs for less than you get in passive income from ad revenue.

And here come the insults.
Damn 12/jul./2020 às 15:43 
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
Escrito originalmente por DangerDecapod:

then get a real job and stop mooching of your viewers for money
YouTube is a real job, just like running a blog that depends on ads for revenue is a real job. Not everyone is capable of being a drone and working 8-5 jobs for less than you get in passive income from ad revenue.
If you make videos as a job and people can easily block ads then don't expect everyone to support you, if you want a job where you are guaranteed to make money then here you go
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01mbDO5HZ3tkIocSaxZRf94zpBDRQ%3A1594593757847&source=hp&ei=3ZELX6mtMcK4tAbn56XgBw&q=jobs+near+me&oq=jobs+near+me&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCAAQsQMyBQgAELEDMgIIADIFCAAQsQMyAggAMgUIABCxAzICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAA6BAgjECc6BQgAEJECOggIABCxAxCDAVCcBFj4EWCPE2gAcAB4AIABUIgB0waSAQIxMpgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjpj_vT5MjqAhVCHM0KHedzCXwQ4dUDCAk&uact=5
Mad Scientist 12/jul./2020 às 15:46 
Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:
Escrito originalmente por DangerDecapod:

then get a real job and stop mooching of your viewers for money
YouTube is a real job, just like running a blog that depends on ads for revenue is a real job. Not everyone is capable of being a drone and working 8-5 jobs for less than you get in passive income from ad revenue.
If it's a job you either own and are operating your own tax-paying business based from the country that is giving you a paycheck; in this case YouTube is a US based company so you'd need to file a Schedule C or Form 1120, else a 1099 and pay the IRS quarterly to annually depending on the income amount. Failing to do so may especially for a US Citizen, have immense consequences including seizure of assets and property, else they can take directly from the company paying you for assisting to generate ad revenue.

That's also it; it's not so much you for video watching; it's that ads play on your videos, the ads have value and you get a share of assisting to reach the goal of the particular advertiser(s) so YouTube can collect on their agreement of either per-view to total number of ads played. In this case, you're just a useful tool to them, not an employee or contractor.

So, if you do consider this a job and make money off of it, don't be surprised if you get Audited accordingly if you're a US Citizen. If you're not, it's up to the country you live in that may want a portion for you generating money while residing wherever you do, but you can still have a portion seized between youtube and yourself.

Just remember that, they only consider you a tool to assist in generating their own revenue based upon existing agreements, and like SuperChats; if you make anything, they get a rather large percentage of it because it's their business and service, not yours.
Dexious Emera 12/jul./2020 às 15:47 
I just use the Brave browser, no ads anywhere lol
Damn 12/jul./2020 às 15:49 
Escrito originalmente por Dexious Emera:
I just use the Brave browser, no ads anywhere lol
Isn't that spyware or something?
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