Is ump45 the best gun In fps games

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[Aznees]

Postat inițial de Slimload:

BFG 9000 is better.

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[Arya]

Postat inițial de Jonno:

I always thought the Vector was the best SMG as portrayed in The Division, Wildlands, Siege, PUBG, etc

Vectors are great, but for a combat situation I'd rather have a PDW to an SMG. I'd have an FN P90, for it's range and armour-penetration. FN 5-7 can theoretically crack a modern military helmet out to a couple of hundred metres, 9MM and .45 ACP can't do that. It's also a Tumbling Bullet, giving it decent firepower from a small size.

[Arya]

Postat inițial de Mr. "Misfortune" Teller:

In Payday 2 it gets overshadowed by the PP Bison.
Currently the best guns are the Light Machine Guns. (High damage, high fire rate, low recoil w/ bipod)

They're not. LMGs are ridiculously heavy, prone to jamming and often need a barrel-change to keep up that rate of fire for long periods. They're designed for supressive fire more than anything else, and for a very specific kind of warfare that seems to be becoming obsolete.

Crimea was the most recent conflict between two modern-day forces, and LMGs didn't make a whole lot of difference. The Russian's prefered strategy was to use Snipers armed with the new T-5000 .338 rifles arranged in three shooting lines - one at a conventional distance and two much further out than have been used in combat before. The snipers pin down a force, and then MLRS flatten that location. Proved extremely effective.

[We are in the Beam]

Postat inițial de Mr. "Misfortune" Teller:

In Payday 2 it gets overshadowed by the PP Bison.
Currently the best guns are the Light Machine Guns. (High damage, high fire rate, low recoil w/ bipod)

Rip DMRs. All hail Contractor/Repeater 1874/Rattlesnake.

[Aghyzuth]

Postat inițial de Mr. "Misfortune" Teller:

In Payday 2 it gets overshadowed by the PP Bison.
Currently the best guns are the Light Machine Guns. (High damage, high fire rate, low recoil w/ bipod)

Naaaaa, shotguns are the ♥♥♥♥, 1 pellet for full dmg...

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Postat inițial de Wolfie:

Postat inițial de Mr. "Misfortune" Teller:

In Payday 2 it gets overshadowed by the PP Bison.
Currently the best guns are the Light Machine Guns. (High damage, high fire rate, low recoil w/ bipod)

They're not. LMGs are ridiculously heavy, prone to jamming and often need a barrel-change to keep up that rate of fire for long periods. They're designed for supressive fire more than anything else, and for a very specific kind of warfare that seems to be becoming obsolete.

Crimea was the most recent conflict between two modern-day forces, and LMGs didn't make a whole lot of difference. The Russian's prefered strategy was to use Snipers armed with the new T-5000 .338 rifles arranged in three shooting lines - one at a conventional distance and two much further out than have been used in combat before. The snipers pin down a force, and then MLRS flatten that location. Proved extremely effective.

He meant in Payday 2 lmao

[Aghyzuth]

No, UMP is not the best gun in games, in KF2 I'd rather take a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crovel than an UMP, even tho the Crovel is not a gun...

[Down The Drain]

The UMP being strong in shooters usually comes from devs not really understanding guns.

[Arya]

Postat inițial de Sir Dankus Stelbeam Memeland:

The UMP being strong in shooters usually comes from devs not really understanding guns.

Pretty much.

WWII would've been hilarious if we'd applied Dev Logic to all of the battles.

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Postat inițial de Wolfie:

Postat inițial de Sir Dankus Stelbeam Memeland:

The UMP being strong in shooters usually comes from devs not really understanding guns.

Pretty much.

WWII would've been hilarious if we'd applied Dev Logic to all of the battles.

It's sort of the same thing with carbines like the AKS74u being really strong in video games as well.

[Warsmith Honsou]

Cod world at war taught me grenades are the best weapon in the game, not only do they do a lot of damage but they are also great at trolling other people when they kill you.

[Aghyzuth]

Postat inițial de Warsmith Honsou:

Cod world at war taught me grenades are the best weapon in the game, not only do they do a lot of damage but they are also great at trolling other people when they kill you.

Post mortum much?

[Arya]

Postat inițial de Sir Dankus Stelbeam Memeland:

It's sort of the same thing with carbines like the AKS74u being really strong in video games as well.

Exactly. They were originally designed for people who may at some point, accidentally, find themselves having to defend themselves. I seem to remember the M1 Carbine was designed to replace the Colt 1911.

Another thing I find annoying is how .45 ACP is usually portrayed as more powerful than mother, more modern handgun rounds. Factually it's been obsolete for years, as has the M1911. Great fun for civilian use, but as a military weapon? Surely you'd use 10 Federal or 9MM +P

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Postat inițial de Wolfie:

Postat inițial de Sir Dankus Stelbeam Memeland:

It's sort of the same thing with carbines like the AKS74u being really strong in video games as well.

Exactly. They were originally designed for people who may at some point, accidentally, find themselves having to defend themselves. I seem to remember the M1 Carbine was designed to replace the Colt 1911.

Another thing I find annoying is how .45 ACP is usually portrayed as more powerful than mother, more modern handgun rounds. Factually it's been obsolete for years, as has the M1911. Great fun for civilian use, but as a military weapon? Surely you'd use 10 Federal or 9MM +P

I mean .45 ACP is more powerful than other common pistol rounds but it's a heavy slow moving projectile so it's not exactly more effective than other pistol rounds.

[Alaskan Catfish Hike]

I am assuming we're basing it on video game rules as opposed to how firearms actually function.