What defines a persons sexual identity?

[Pizmo]

Hopefully the mods dont lock this. I think this could be an interesting discussion if we can keep it adult and civil. But anyway here goes.

What defines a person's sexual identity? Is it only a matter of which sexual organs you prefer? Or does masculinity and femininity play a role?

Example: I wouldn't be attracted to a masculine female. Even though she would have the right sexual organs for me. I would find it a turn off if she had really short hair, was always wearing flannel shirts and blue jeans, drinks beer, watches football, and drives a lifted pick up.

My wife is very feminine and that is one of the things that attracts me to her. I like that she paints her nails, watches chick flicks, and drives a cute little car.

So now to the heart of the matter. If a person identifies as homosexual, what does that mean? Are they gay only because they are attracted to people with the same organs as themselves? Or are they attracted to masculinaty and femininity? What attracts a gay man to another man that looks and acts feminine? What attracts a woman to another woman that looks and acts masculine?

Keep it clean and civil people

[Plaid]

引用自 Pizmo：

引用自 Tux：

So you are trying to mix up social traits with biological sexuality and that is stupid.

I'm not doing it. Society does it all on Its own. I'm merely making an observation

A lot of people feel that in order to be gay they must look and act gay, and to be straight one must look and act straight

If masculinaty and femininity has nothing to do with sexual orientation then why act the part?

I occasionally pull out "the flaming gay man" just to annoy my friend.

[Pizmo]

引用自 rojimboo：

引用自 Daxank：

So I have a mental illness for being bisexual? You guys are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded :VSnake:

Look at Omabear's post history.

Nuff said.

I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.

Though not sure why the other guy agreed...

Actually I think if you were to look at things objectively bisexuality makes the most sense. A bisexual person doesnt limit themselves to male or female, masculine or feminine. They like it all. They don't get all caught up in looking or acting a certian way or being confined by a certain role

[Tux]

引用自 Pizmo：

引用自 Tux：

So you are trying to mix up social traits with biological sexuality and that is stupid.

I'm not doing it. Society does it all on Its own. I'm merely making an observation

A lot of people feel that in order to be gay they must look and act gay, and to be straight one must look and act straight

If masculinaty and femininity has nothing to do with sexual orientation then why act the part?

you absolutely are and I think you are doing it on purpose.

sexuality and traits are not the same thing. you are trying to interchange them to create a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ silly debate

[Tux]

引用自 Pizmo：

引用自 rojimboo：

Look at Omabear's post history.

Nuff said.

I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.

Though not sure why the other guy agreed...

Actually I think if you were to look at things objectively bisexuality makes the most sense. A bisexual person doesnt limit themselves to male or female, masculine or feminine. They like it all. They don't get all caught up in looking or acting a certian way or being confined by a certain role

right here is a perfect example of how you are intentionally mixing up TRAITS with SEXUALITY.

trait is something socieity associates with sexuality (in this case) but its not ACTUALLY related. Just because society thinks it is doesnt mean it actually is.

[Pizmo]

引用自 Tux：

引用自 Pizmo：

I'm not doing it. Society does it all on Its own. I'm merely making an observation

A lot of people feel that in order to be gay they must look and act gay, and to be straight one must look and act straight

If masculinaty and femininity has nothing to do with sexual orientation then why act the part?

you absolutely are and I think you are doing it on purpose.

sexuality and traits are not the same thing. you are trying to interchange them to create a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ silly debate

I'm not debating anything. I have not stated a position, nor have I given any sort of counter argument. I've merely asked a question.

"If a person identifies as homosexual, what does that mean?"

Is it limited only to sexual organs? Or are they also attracted by masculinity or femininity?

I'm attracted to my wife becuase she is female and becuase she is feminine. If you change either of those then I am no longer attracted to her, or any other person that doesn't meet the same criteria. So does being attracted to her becuase she is a female and feminine define my sexual orientation?

[bearsboi]

引用自 Daxank：

引用自 SuperJr45：

I totally agree

So I have a mental illness for being bisexual? You guys are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded :VSnake:

whatever, same ♥♥♥♥. you like dudes and you like chicks. That's what I meant

[bearsboi]

引用自 rojimboo：

引用自 Daxank：

So I have a mental illness for being bisexual? You guys are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded :VSnake:

Look at Omabear's post history.

Nuff said.

I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.

Though not sure why the other guy agreed...

[Tux]

引用自 Pizmo：

引用自 Tux：

you absolutely are and I think you are doing it on purpose.

sexuality and traits are not the same thing. you are trying to interchange them to create a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ silly debate

I'm not debating anything. I have not stated a position, nor have I given any sort of counter argument. I've merely asked a question.

"If a person identifies as homosexual, what does that mean?"

Is it limited only to sexual organs? Or are they also attracted by masculinity or femininity?

I'm attracted to my wife becuase she is female and becuase she is feminine. If you change either of those then I am no longer attracted to her, or any other person that doesn't meet the same criteria. So does being attracted to her becuase she is a female and feminine define my sexual orientation?

no that is not what you are doing I am sorry.

you have to separate and be explicit about this, you have to separate sexuality from traits. if you remove traits which is a socially driven attribute that is applied to sexuality but its NOT sexuality.

then you are only left asking a question that only people with brain dysfunctions (I am saying that specifically not to be mean but literally a brain dysfunctions) do not have an answer to

In short, traits are something that is in reference to sexuality, traits are not sexuality itself

[Marcy]

引用自 Omabear：

you're either male or female, gay or straight. Anything inbetween is mental illness and social brainwashing

That's not how humans work. We're not binary like machines where it's either on or off, yes or no, true or false. Humans are vague, dynamic and unpredictable, especially mentally.

[Pizmo]

引用自 Tux：

引用自 Pizmo：

I'm not debating anything. I have not stated a position, nor have I given any sort of counter argument. I've merely asked a question.

"If a person identifies as homosexual, what does that mean?"

Is it limited only to sexual organs? Or are they also attracted by masculinity or femininity?

I'm attracted to my wife becuase she is female and becuase she is feminine. If you change either of those then I am no longer attracted to her, or any other person that doesn't meet the same criteria. So does being attracted to her becuase she is a female and feminine define my sexual orientation?

no that is not what you are doing I am sorry.

you have to separate and be explicit about this, you have to separate sexuality from traits. if you remove traits which is a socially driven attribute that is applied to sexuality but its NOT sexuality.

then you are only left asking a question that only people with brain dysfunctions (I am saying that specifically not to be mean but literally a brain dysfunctions) do not have an answer to

In short, traits are something that is in reference to sexuality, traits are not sexuality itself

So homosexuality is 100% about the sex?

[bearsboi]

引用自 Vertisea：

引用自 Omabear：

you're either male or female, gay or straight. Anything inbetween is mental illness and social brainwashing

That's not how humans work. We're not binary like machines where it's either on or off, yes or no, true or false. Humans are vague, especially mentally.

humans are also retarded. if you cut your ♥♥♥♥ off and call yourself a chick you are mentally ill

[Zoey Dawg]

引用自 Omabear：

引用自 Vertisea：

That's not how humans work. We're not binary like machines where it's either on or off, yes or no, true or false. Humans are vague, especially mentally.

humans are also retarded. if you cut your ♥♥♥♥ off and call yourself a chick you are mentally ill

you dont actrealy cut it off.you know this right?

[Unexpected]

i'm just a simple man, if i see someone of the female sex, i am attracted to them, if a guy only likes guys, that is their preference and not my problem, now let's be sure to not argue

[bearsboi]

引用自 xbox king gamer：

引用自 Omabear：

humans are also retarded. if you cut your ♥♥♥♥ off and call yourself a chick you are mentally ill

you dont actrealy cut it off.you know this right?

comedic value my guy. you need to go to more parties

[Pizmo]

引用自 Omabear：

引用自 Vertisea：

That's not how humans work. We're not binary like machines where it's either on or off, yes or no, true or false. Humans are vague, especially mentally.

humans are also retarded. if you cut your ♥♥♥♥ off and call yourself a chick you are mentally ill

I don't disagree that it is weird to do so. However I whole heartedly believe that people should have the right to do so if they please