Why do teachers DESPISE Wikipedia

[Sun Praisa']

They say people can change anything on wikipedia

yet a lot of wikipedia pages are locked and they have bots that detect vandalism

[Unexpected]

Messaggio originale di Nargo:

Wikipedia is not credible.
Look for sites that provide actual data. Use government sites. Use scientific sites. Use industry sites.
Why would you use an article from wikipedia, which are written by internet strangers?
Not to mention there are millions of pages on wikipedia. Not everything can be checked and validated in a timely manner. If you come at a bad time and use an article while it was still unfixed, then you'd be in trouble.
And this is on top of some wikipedia writers being biased and deliberately writing articles in a way to push their ideas/agendas.

If I was a teacher I'd throw a student's paper into the trash as soon as I see its sourced from that site.

so wikipedia provides absolutely zero sources for any information? i'm glad you aren't a teacher

[Unexpected]

Messaggio originale di AustrAlien2010:

That´s not what he said.
It´s about applying scientific method.

he did say that though, he said to look for actual sources, not something written by strangers.
but isn't a government database written by strangers anyways, and inherently biased?

[Shambler]

Messaggio originale di Nargo:

If I was a teacher I'd throw a student's paper into the trash as soon as I see its sourced from that site.

You remind me a lot of our old geography teacher. She would give '5's (the equivalent of an 'F' here) to students who listed Wikipedia as one of their sources in projects, regardless of how good those projects were. I hope you'll never be a teacher.

[shoopy]

Wikipedia is doing your work for you.

[TwinEdgedBastard]

Wikipedia gets a bad reputation from all the people who say it's very unreliable. That being said there is some truth to how unreliable it can be, so you should only use Wikipedia as sort of a starting area for your research and not a primary source for infomation.

[The Holy Chicken Overlord]

Just go to one of the sources at the bottom of the Wikipedia article.

[Mecha Carny]

Probably because students base their essays and whatnot solely on Wikipedia way too often, which is seen as a very untrustworthy source of information, because vandalism and personal beliefs are 10/10.

Not all teachers despise Wikipedia, however. More or less, they encourage you to use other sources, while still keeping Wikipedia as somewhat credible for basic information, like the population of Norway.

[Jurassic Fart 3]

Here's the thing about why teachers "despise" Wikipedia:

I started writing and getting published in 1972. My teachers were very demanding. If I published something, they actually expected me to back up what I wrote with complete bibliographies. If I quoted someone or if I stated a "fact," I had to disclose exactly what to source was, or where the fact came from.

When I started going to university, there was no such thing as a publicly-accessible internet—it was 1984 (Hello, George Orwell!), and CERN, the first public website, was not launched until 1989—many sources say 1990. Anyway, you had to go to the LIBRARY and look in real BOOKS to write your term papers.

Later, still going to school, and the internet having been born and thriving, teachers specifically prohibited internet-derived bibliographical citations for the plain and simple fact that any moron savvy enough to post on a website could say anything his delusional and undereducated mind wished to.

Teachers require reputable and verifiable sources.

I can point you to websites that "prove" the existence of fairies, that "prove" unicorns run our governments, but for Christ's sake, do you really have to ask why teachers hate Wiki?

Get a gawdamned LIFE!

[Mecha Carny]

Messaggio originale di Trolley-Hunter:

Here's the thing about why teachers "despise" Wikipedia:

I started writing and getting published in 1972. My teachers were very demanding. If I published something, they actually expected me to back up what I wrote with complete bibliographies. If I quoted someone or if I stated a "fact," I had to disclose exactly what to source was, or where the fact came from.

When I started going to university, there was no such thing as a publicly-accessible internet—it was 1984 (Hello, George Orwell!), and CERN, the first public website, was not launched until 1989—many sources say 1990. Anyway, you had to go to the LIBRARY and look in real BOOKS to write your term papers.

Later, still going to school, and the internet having been born and thriving, teachers specifically prohibited internet-derived bibliographical citations for the plain and simple fact that any moron savvy enough to post on a website could say anything his delusional and undereducated mind wished to.

Teachers require reputable and verifiable sources.

I can point you to websites that "prove" the existence of fairies, that "prove" unicorns run our governments, but for Christ's sake, do you really have to ask why teachers hate Wiki?

Get a gawdamned LIFE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta41xU-tkFA

[Jurassic Fart 3]

Oh, go to HELL. I just composed a long and informative treatise to answer your inane question and got a gawdamned networking error.

GO TO SCHOOL, and STAY AWAKE.

Christ!

Idiot!

[SNP]

Messaggio originale di Trolley-Hunter:

Oh, go to HELL. I just composed a long and informative treatise to answer your inane question and got a gawdamned networking error.

GO TO SCHOOL, and STAY AWAKE.

Christ!

Idiot!

>copy everything you wrote
>refresh the page
>paste

[Jurassic Fart 3]

Messaggio originale di 👁͜ʖ👁:

Messaggio originale di Trolley-Hunter:

Oh, go to HELL. I just composed a long and informative treatise to answer your inane question and got a gawdamned networking error.

GO TO SCHOOL, and STAY AWAKE.

Christ!

Idiot!

>copy everything you wrote
>refresh the page
>paste

WTF is that supposed to mean, you complete and utter MORON? You proved NOTHING! All you accomplished was to prove MY point! Congrats, you dolt!

[Zekiran]

Because teachers want you to do the research yourself.

START with wiki. Then scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page and locate the SOURCE MATERIALS so that you yourself can read through them.

On the other hand: some teachers might still be of the opinion that Wiki is unreliable - it's not. But only when you check multiple sources, will your teachers be satisfied with your studies.

[76561198034396398]

not just teachers,the whole point of gaining accurate information is comparing it to different sources, not just one and treating it as a fact

[Zekiran]

Messaggio originale di AustrAlien2010:

Teachers are insatiable. Not all though. Some are actually nice people.

Students are dense as rocks. But some are actually quite eager to learn.

Same thing. :)

Teachers are there because they want to help a new generation of human beings become apt at things. While I could argue that most of the things being taught in modern schools is *garbage*, and irrelevant for the bulk of the real world population, learning how to research and study, learning how to seek out new information, those are the most important thing to learn at all. If you can't master that, well... 'sheeple' comes to mind. Sadly.