Serious Sam 3 or Duke Nukem Forever?

[Famix]

Both are bad attempts at modernizing their characters and apparently hated by fans. You must choose one, and nothing else. You can't play any other game until you've finished the story of either game. Which do you choose?

[Mossy Snake]

SS3

It's actually a well-liked and well-made game.

[ReGeneration]

Originally posted by PICKLE FAMIX!!!!:

Both are bad attempts at modernizing their characters and apparently hated by fans

No.
"Serious Sam 3" is a good game! You just need to play it with friends.

[Smugass Braixen-Chan]

Wasn't the problem with Duke Nukem the fact that they didn't modernize him at all, and he was the just the same womanizing sleazebag from the '90s.

[Zekiran]

Originally posted by Smugass Braixen-Chan:

Wasn't the problem with Duke Nukem the fact that they didn't modernize him at all, and he was the just the same womanizing sleazebag from the '90s.

While he IS absolutely that? I'm playing it for the first time (and am a woman who lived through the 90s) I'm getting only that the sleezeball component is tongue in cheek. It's so over the top that it is really hilarious to me at least. I haven't played SSam, no idea. But nukem is dumb and fun and that's pretty much all that most games need to be.

[Arya]

Serious Sam 3. It may be garbage, but at least it's harmless garbage. I've already finished DNF and it's not an experience I ever want to have again.

DNF doesn't struggle with terrible gameplay, it feels rusty but there are much worse games on Steam. The problem is developer pushes the game's lewd jokes so far that they cease to be funny, and just make you uncomfortable.

Much of it goes so far that I can't describe it here, but to give you some idea, Duke promises one enemy "I'm going to rip out your eye and piss on your brain" - which then plays out through a nauseatingly detailed cutscene. Bad enough, but far from the worst moment you're put through.

[Mossy Snake]

Originally posted by Smugass Braixen-Chan:

Wasn't the problem with Duke Nukem the fact that they didn't modernize him at all, and he was the just the same womanizing sleazebag from the '90s.

The character wasn't modernized, but the gameplay was. They added health regen, made the guns and shooting less interesting, and slowed down the pacing.

Also it took 15+ years to make and ended up feeling and looking lazy, to the point where they copy-pasted models and used the "identical twin" excuse to avoid spending a couple extra dollars on a new character model.

[TwinEdgedBastard]

SS3.
Serious sam 3 actually stayed true to the design of the original and it does at least feel some-what good to play despite it being a lot slower paced.

Duke Nukem Forever seemed like it was trying to stay true to its self, but it failed by having lacked faith in its self and instead making a Cod style shooter with Duke style humor thrown on top.

[Arya]

So what is Serious Sam? I've heard of it in passing, but don't know anything about. I'm a big fan of 'vintage' shooters, so I'm genuinely interested.

[Mossy Snake]

Originally posted by Wolfıe:

So what is Serious Sam? I've heard of it in passing, but don't know anything about. I'm a big fan of 'vintage' shooters, so I'm genuinely interested.

Think of it as the less-remembered less-liked brother to DOOM, Wolfenstein, and Duke Nukem.

It's still a very solid series, and I think a new one is about to come out.

[TwinEdgedBastard]

Originally posted by Wolfıe:

So what is Serious Sam? I've heard of it in passing, but don't know anything about. I'm a big fan of 'vintage' shooters, so I'm genuinely interested.

The original Serious Sam games were like most other fast paced shooters of it's time, the major difference is that it focuses more on large open areas with huge hordes of enemies. I would definatly recommend this game if you like old school shooters.

I don't have much experience with SS2, but this one seemed to be way over the top, like Saints row 4 over the top. It did feel good to play though.

Btw, the entire Serious sam collection can go on sale for less than $10. I would be patient and wait for that.

[Arya]

Sounds great, thanks guys. I'll definitely keep my eyes open for that - sounds like my kind of bloodbath.

[Famix]

I guess SS3 isn't that bad!

Thanks, guys!

Originally posted by MossyRathalos:

Originally posted by Smugass Braixen-Chan:

Wasn't the problem with Duke Nukem the fact that they didn't modernize him at all, and he was the just the same womanizing sleazebag from the '90s.

The character wasn't modernized, but the gameplay was. They added health regen, made the guns and shooting less interesting, and slowed down the pacing.

Also it took 15+ years to make and ended up feeling and looking lazy, to the point where they copy-pasted models and used the "identical twin" excuse to avoid spending a couple extra dollars on a new character model.

Don't forget the two weapon limit taken straight from Halo and COD.

I find it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hilarious that in the cyberden, John said the reason it failed was that it didn't appeal to COD fanboys! But it's basically Call of Duke! XD

Call of Duty isn't that bad, either, the problem with COD is that every game started trying to be it. Not sure about recent titles, though.

YouTube™ Video: Jon St. John Interview (Duke Nukem) - The Cyber Den 

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2024 FOLLOW-UP INTERVIEW HERE: https://youtu.be/ZXE6t0qqX5I An interview with professional voice actor and radio presenter Jon St. John, famously known as the voice of Duke Nukem.

[Rio]

Originally posted by Smugass Braixen-Chan:

Wasn't the problem with Duke Nukem the fact that they didn't modernize him at all, and he was the just the same womanizing sleazebag from the '90s.

The problem is they modernized the mechanics to be halo. Regen health, 2 weapon carry limit, toy vehicals. And it was nothing fans wanted from a duke game.

And they were so dense they left in duke joking the games he copied like the master chief armor mocking.

[Famix]

They also wanted to add serious sam's head on a stick hidden in a level. You know, the guy who practically replaced him because the fans got tired of waiting and made their own game

[Famix]

I also want to say, while the bar scene is out of place, it was kind of fun because every inch of it was covered in easter eggs, however, it shows off that the physics engine is too horrible to effectively play minigames