Kanye west for president
Is this guy serious about that?
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Radene 8. Juli 2020 um 19:41 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grendalcat:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Radene:

Well, that's exactly what I was trying to say, that test seems to leave out about 90% of what it means to "be American" when it comes to aspects of life. As if USA has no culture, sports, gastronomy, art, or everyday life quirks a "naturalized" citizen should have at least a passing knowledge of.

Half-joke, but would you give the citizenship to someone who knows Cleveland was the only president serving nonconsecutive terms but has no clue what the Super Bowl is?

Yes actually, I find the Super Bore to be of no importance.

You, maybe. But "USA" seems to think it's even a bigger deal than elections sometimes. I'd expect someone who applies for citizenship to have at least heard of it in the time they've been in the process.
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Masque 8. Juli 2020 um 19:42 
Radene

"Like, you need to actually take an exam like that if you apply for Swiss citizenship; and the questions will include stuff like "What are you supposed to do if your fondue is too thin", "Which Bond girl has a Swiss passport" or "How many seats does the Zürich opera house have"; in addition to the stuff you'd expect about I don't know, Calvin, William Tell, and how many cantons there are."

Now you've got me looking for an online Switzerland Citizenship Exam.

Because, seriously, fondue?
lol do people actually think kanye is trying to split votes
Masque 8. Juli 2020 um 19:45 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lexapro Delirium:
lol do people actually think kanye is trying to split votes
Not me. If he were actually filing paperwork and running, maybe.

I think he's trying to be in the news.
I can answer two of those three questions...

I would assume that you would just add more cheese if your fondue is thin. Unless it's a dessert fondue. Then you would add more whichever chocolate you're using.
Masque 8. Juli 2020 um 19:48 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:
I can answer two of those three questions...

I would assume that you would just add more cheese if your fondue is thin. Unless it's a dessert fondue. Then you would add more whichever chocolate you're using.
Well, duh.

:steamhappy:

I just wonder if Radene is pulling our leg. i found one online exam so far, but it requires you to register and login after it asks your canton and then after the first question.

And the first question was just basic civics about what a representative democracy is.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:
I can answer two of those three questions...

I would assume that you would just add more cheese if your fondue is thin. Unless it's a dessert fondue. Then you would add more whichever chocolate you're using.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nEgGQ9JYdI
Radene 8. Juli 2020 um 20:30 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von N-95 Masque of Clavicus Vile:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:
I can answer two of those three questions...

I would assume that you would just add more cheese if your fondue is thin. Unless it's a dessert fondue. Then you would add more whichever chocolate you're using.
Well, duh.

:steamhappy:

I just wonder if Radene is pulling our leg. i found one online exam so far, but it requires you to register and login after it asks your canton and then after the first question.

And the first question was just basic civics about what a representative democracy is.

Yeah, it depends on the canton or even municipality... Some places won't even give you a test, but will rather put you in front of a committee that will interview you to determine if you're "integrated enough". And yes, sometimes they'll try their damnest to make you fail (a good thing to check is whether or not the SVP party is strong in your area).

So, I guess my problem here is that I've made it look like there's a "standard" for these tests when in fact there isn't. The confederation can green-light your application, but the canton or even the municipality you live in will have the final word and they will choose how to test you.

An American professor got his request denied because he wasn't paying enough attention to local politics and couldn't name six villages in his canton. A Dutch woman got denied because she was "too annoying" for being an outspoken animal rights activist in a village that considered that "anti-Swiss".

So, sorry about setting this up wrong. The very federalism this country lives and breathes means that things are more complicated than what I made it look like.
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Masque 8. Juli 2020 um 20:42 
Radene, I have no problem with the Swiss system at all, as you've described it.

Every nation should be allowed to determine it's composition, and who is allowed citizenship.

This is considered a radical view, nowadays in the West. Pretty much only in the West and outside of Africa.
Also, I keep hearing that Kanye has bipolar disorder.

Wouldn't a mental condition like that disqualify him from actually becoming President?

I can't think of the horror an actual bipolar President of the US could cause. It'd make the current horrible administration look like a perfectly stable one in comparison I'd assume.
Masque 8. Juli 2020 um 20:46 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheRandomGuy:
Also, I keep hearing that Kanye has bipolar disorder.

Wouldn't a mental condition like that disqualify him from actually becoming President?

I can't think of the horror an actual bipolar President of the US could cause. It'd make the current horrible administration look like a perfectly stable one in comparison I'd assume.

I'm no psych doc, but I've had a lot of experience in that realm, and I think he probably does.

Right now he's manic.

And I agree with the ramifications you mentioned.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheRandomGuy:
Also, I keep hearing that Kanye has bipolar disorder.

Wouldn't a mental condition like that disqualify him from actually becoming President?

I can't think of the horror an actual bipolar President of the US could cause. It'd make the current horrible administration look like a perfectly stable one in comparison I'd assume.

You mean Article 2, Section 1 should have a sanity clause?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Sy6oiJbEk
Radene 8. Juli 2020 um 20:53 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von N-95 Masque of Clavicus Vile:
Radene, I have no problem with the Swiss system at all, as you've described it.

Every nation should be allowed to determine it's composition, and who is allowed citizenship.

This is considered a radical view, nowadays in the West. Pretty much only in the West and outside of Africa.

It was never about whether the system is problematic, but about how it approaches your application, i. e., making you prove you know facts about the country vs. making you prove you've actually gotten into its lifestyle and culture. The discussion about potential problems in the system is for another time.

Now, to wrap up this derail of my doing on a brighter note - if you want a comedy about the topic, look up "The Swissmakers". Near 50 years old now, but definitely not outdated.
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Masque 8. Juli 2020 um 20:54 
Radene, I'll try and find it -- subtitled or dubbed, as I only know English.

Thanks for the info, though... it's fascinating to me.

Edit: Found it on YouTube, complete, with English subtitles. I'll watch it!

Re-Edit: Never mind, only the documentary at the beginning has subs. Oh, well.

Maybe I'll find it elsewhere.
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he suffers from mental problems, allegedly. he can be disqualified.

also, how does an independent candidate campaign in the USA as there are only two 'major' parties, the democrats and the republicans?
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