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KT Chong (Zbanowany) 18 czerwca 2020 o 20:38
"Console" or "Time" Exclusive = FAKE Exclusive
Please stop calling "console" or "time" exclusives as "exclusives", because they really are not. They are FAKE exclusives, used to deceive and mislead consumers into buying a console.

That is why console makers -- especially Microsoft -- rarely want to tell you ahead of time that an exclusive is actually a "console" or "time" exclusive, because there is some degree of deception, lying and withholding of information involved. They do not want you to know the exclusives are actually FAKE exclusives. That is why nowadays I assume ALL so-called "exclusives" on Xbox are only console or temporary exclusives = FAKE exclusives.

P.S. Nintendo has the most REAL exclusives. Sony has a lot of REAL exclusives. When people say "Microsoft/Xbox has no exclusive", what we mean is Microsoft/Xbox has only FAKE exclusives. Personally, there is absolutely NO reason for me to buy or invest in a console unless it has a good amount of REAL (and very good) exclusives that I can't play on anything else (on PC or another console.)
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Esoteric 18 czerwca 2020 o 20:45 
That may be true for Sony and Microsoft but it's not for Nintendo who as far I know has never released any games on PC.
Zekiran 18 czerwca 2020 o 20:48 
Welcome to the real world, where we have known that most companies want to make money in the longer run, and will have exclusivity contracts that *run out* after about a year... Unless a game is purposefully made cross-platform, I couldn't care less whether one console or another console gets an 'exclusive' - they are garbage until they're on PC platform for me anyway.

those games which are Epic exclusives are dead to me anyway, so I don't really care any more.
KT Chong (Zbanowany) 18 czerwca 2020 o 20:48 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Geoffrey St. John:
That may be true for Sony and Microsoft but it's not for Nintendo who as far I know has never released any games on PC.

Yeah, but it is the WORST for Microsoft and Xbox.

Almost all of those so-called "exclusives" on Xbox are also on Windows... which makes them FAKE exclusives.

And then, Xbox has had a lot of "exclusives" that would later turn out to be only "time" exclusives = another form of FAKE exclusives.

Microsoft used to not want to tell consumers that its Xbox "exclusives" are really just FAKE exclusives, but it has happened so many times and so often that nowadays I KNOW all the so-called "exclusives" on Xbox are really just console and time exclusives = FAKE exclusives.

Nintendo has REAL exclusives.

Sony does not have as many as Nintendo does for Playstation, but still a lot of REAL exclusives that never gets ported to PC or another platform.

And, just as people say: "Xbox has NO exclusives," which really means it has NO or very few "real" exclusives. Not sure why Xbox fans get so angry and defensive when people say it, because it it is true.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: KT Chong; 18 czerwca 2020 o 20:52
KT Chong (Zbanowany) 18 czerwca 2020 o 20:53 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Zekiran:
those games which are Epic exclusives are dead to me anyway, so I don't really care any more.

But are those so-called "exclusives" on Epic permanent and real? Or are they just temporary and time exclusives = FAKE exclusives?
Paddy Wagon 18 czerwca 2020 o 20:56 
Exclusives, be it fake or real, another reason not to own a console
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Paddy Wagon; 18 czerwca 2020 o 20:57
Esoteric 18 czerwca 2020 o 20:58 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Paddy_Wagon:
Exclusives, be it fake or real, another reason not to own a console
They're the only reason to own a console.
KT Chong (Zbanowany) 18 czerwca 2020 o 21:08 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Paddy_Wagon:
Exclusives, be it fake or real, another reason not to own a console

Not really. Exclusives are the ONLY reason to buy a console.


Back in 2008 or 2009, I bought an Xbox 360 back in 2009 to play Mass Effect, which was advertised as an "exclusive" for Xbox. Of course, back then people had not yet learned about Microsoft's dirty trick of LYING about exclusives. When Mass Effect came out on the PC, I was ticked off. I would have NEVER bought an Xbox if I had known Mass Effect would come to the PC. I would rather have waited and bought it for the PC.

Then, over the next few years, it happened again and again: Microsoft lied about a title being an "exclusive"... and then it turned out to be a FAKE exclusive. Then people finally realize Microsoft cannot be trusted on "exclusives".

So, two years ago, I bought a PS5 (my first Playstation) to play Horizon: Zero Dawn. For a long time, I also had wanted to play the Uncharted series, the Last of Us, God of War with son, and Spider-man. However, the ONE exclusive that finally convinced me to buy a Playstation was Horizon: Zero Dawn. At the time, Sony had a good track record on "exclusives": first-party Playstation exclusives are REAL exclusives that had never been ported to the PC. So yeah, I spent/invested the money into a console, and I EXPECT it to be a money well-spent, and for the all those Sony's first-party exclusives to STAY exclusives.

Then, I read the rumor of Horizon: Zero Dawn might be ported to the PC. A Sony's FIRST-PARTY exclusive might be ported to the PC. At this point, it is still a rumor. Now, if it really gets ported to the PC, I am gonna be TICKED OFF. And I will NEVER buy another Playstation again. What is the point of owning a Playstation if Sony goes the Microsoft's lying route and its exclusives are also fake? On the other hand, IF the Horizon series stays as Playstation exclusives, then PS5 will have my business.

That is how it works.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: KT Chong; 18 czerwca 2020 o 21:09
Początkowo opublikowane przez KT Chong:
"Console" or "Time" Exclusive...

Początkowo opublikowane przez Geoffrey St. John:
Początkowo opublikowane przez Paddy_Wagon:
Exclusives, be it fake or real, another reason not to own a console
They're the only reason to own a console.
Not the -only- reason...

There is no system that does stereoscopic 3D like the New 3DS does right now.
None of them are even trying, including Nintendo's current system.

Also, as far as mobile goes, the 3DS is typically a better experience than what's available on mobile phones. (No, I don't count the Switch because it's too big to reasonably fit your pockets, imo.)


:seewhatyoudid:
KT Chong (Zbanowany) 18 czerwca 2020 o 21:30 
I don't like -- or care about -- mobile games. I want to play my games on BIG screens with surround-sound earphones or speakers.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: KT Chong; 18 czerwca 2020 o 21:32
Początkowo opublikowane przez KT Chong:
I don't like mobile games. I want to play my games on BIG screens.
Well, me too but I also like playing my games (& software, since that's a thing now too, even on Nintendo) from my bed and also being able to access them while I'm out having to wait for something away from home. :P

Plus it's really convenient to just be able to pop some old DSes in a bag and play something like Kirby Superstar Ultra with a friend at lunch or after work.

It bugs me immensely that they never gave us a legit way to purchase even a premium model system that would let us play... ANY of the items in the DS & 3DS library on a big screen.


:seewhatyoudid: :gdhat:
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