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Mr Jt (Gog is king) 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 2:18
First person vs other perspectives
So are you guys on board with the claim that first person games are more immersive because you basically become the character(what is definetly possible with other perspectives too) and you can’t watch behind corners etc like in real life.
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Crazy Tiger 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 2:21 
No. Immersion for me comes from the game world. Even with 3rd person I *am* the character.

Game mechanics being "not real" doesn't break immersion for me.
The Commendatore 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 2:23 
Perspective doesn't affect my immersion, unless the game is designed a specific way.

I felt pretty immersed in the first few Assassin's Creed games or Telltale's The Walking Dead, and they're third-person.
ALIEN-SQUARE™ 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 2:24 
some game have both and you just switch at the click of a key 1st or 3rd . i play deadside like that and have both availabilty on my server ,so you play how suits you and switch when you like.
personly i use both , as you said you can get better cam angles depending the view .
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gugnihr 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 2:26 
It can be more immersive yes but it is also less fun for me.
Usually I tend to avoid first person games. I can play them if I like them enough but the gameplay is less fun this way.
Many third person games with a view close enough to the action can be very immersive too, and anyway I don'ìt want to become the character, I prefer to have a character to play with than being him myself.
Of course third person games with a far away, top down kind of view (for example) like Diablo struggle to be as immersive as games that let you experience the environment and locations from a much closer point of view.
And it depends on what I want too, sometimes I don't care much about immersiveness and I only want fun instead...
最后由 gugnihr 编辑于; 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 2:27
Edge_Master 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 2:28 
prefer first person view myself but for games similar to GTA I prefer third person.

I could never get into GTA 5's first person view.
76561198315424152 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 2:36 
I prefer third rather than 1st pov for a lot, but for pure shooters mostly first person pov.

Racing; third is nicer imo, better view of surroundings, car limits and turns
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PJjdapg_NoE but i like to mix there just for the sensation.

Same with airplanes, cant look down without rolling a bit so.. and limited to the back with 1st pov. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JVhBs9cXFR8&t=265s

Normal shooters however i feel the character is in the way a little bit, def prefer 1st person view there.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MkGmNvrVBVY&=443s man i havent tried bf4 even, looks dope. Screen on the lap top is cracked tho, in no rush fixing it.

Played d2 long time ago, third person view is a good thing for those types too...
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Bo 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 2:38 
Most immersed I've ever been was in Crusader Kings 2 while drunk and/or stoned.
Paddy Wagon 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 2:46 
引用自 Jt
So are you guys on board with the claim that first person games are more immersive because you basically become the character(what is definetly possible with other perspectives too) and you can’t watch behind corners etc like in real life.
Seen this topic on many forums. It seems to get heated when games are in development: some calling for FP only and 3rd person supporters complaining about being excluded or the other way around.

It is [first person is more immersive] is a completely subjective argument. Arguing about which is better or more immersive is futile since there are no factual concrete evidence to prove the argument. Its all preference, regarding watch you like and what you find more immersive. FPS comes close to how we actually see in RL, but its hardly equal i.e. no real peripheral vision and from the view of a box [your screen]with your surroundings[room] in the background. So knock yourself out trying to prove either is superior. If were talking purely utilitarian advantages: I like being able to toggle between the two I wish all games had that option.

*side note I resisted getting Kingdom Come: Deliverance, since it was FP only. I finally got it on sale for dirt cheap a while back. I thought I was going to hate it since I get dizzy playing FP games. Surprisingly I did not and actually enjoyed the game immensely.
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Incarnate 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 4:10 
First person is more realistic (you can't look around corners), generally less janky, and easier to control than third. So by that definition, yes, it is more immersive.

But third-person has some advantages when it comes to platforming and games where you need spatial awareness. Also it looks cooler.

I kind of like a mixture of the two. Try playing a game like Elder Scrolls or Fallout and test it for yourself.
TWPanda77 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 4:45 
I consider immersion to be in the world that the game presents and in characters I can care about. Pretty graphics is great and I often stop to look around and see the beautiful detail but most enjoyment i think come from the story and bond I build with characters. Game view is not most important. I think in my opinion the key is about telling a story in compelling way.

I like option to change game mode though because sometime first person make me feeling queasy if I play too long. I find it better to adjust fov and play in darker room. xD
WhiteKnight77 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 5:15 
It all depends on the type of game and the aim of the developers and who they intend the game for. A game like Ace Combat having 3rd person is fine for those into arcade type games, but for those who prefer DCS, 1st person is the only way.

3rd person is fine for RTS games as you are typically commanding multiple units. For FPS games, it depends again, on who the devs are aiming their game at. ArmA isn't aimed at the general masses like Assassin's Creed or a Battlefield game is.
=CrimsoN= 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 5:59 
Depends on the game. I know I'll be immersed when I'm not concerned with what view I'm using for a game.

引用自 Incarnate
I kind of like a mixture of the two. Try playing a game like Elder Scrolls or Fallout and test it for yourself.

^But I usually tend towards this.
Mr Jt (Gog is king) 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 7:48 
引用自 MikeBob2013
引用自 Jt
First person vs other perspectives

So are you guys on board with the claim that first person games are more immersive because you basically become the character(what is definetly possible with other perspectives too) and you can’t watch behind corners etc like in real life.

I'm in full agreement with you on this.

I'd *much* rather play rpg, open world type games in true first person perspective (with ~120° FoV), although I can (and do) play in third person also (I just don't feel like they're as immersive).

Ideally, I think games should allow the player to toggle between the two perspectives as needed/desired.

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Yes skyrim is the best example that toggling could be a great alternative even if you play it mainly in first person anyway
Xautos 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 8:10 
frame of mind is important to immerse oneself in something, doesn't have to be 1st or 3rd person either. the sims 4 for example and xcom enemy unknown are good examples that one can really get into a game.
Blargo 2020 年 6 月 17 日 上午 9:08 
Nope.
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