Do you believe souls exist in us all?

[Panazois λ]

I certainly do. If they did not then we wouldn't have words like: "psychologist" "psycho" and "psychotherapist". Psycho originates from the Greek word "ψυχή" which means soul in greek. Also when you are depressed you feel some sort of pain. But not in your stomach or your head or your genitals. But it just is. It's there but you can't really feel it like when you would get hurt. It's a different kind of pain. A psychological pain. Your soul is hurting. Your soul and body are one. One cannot exist with the other. Your body is a vessel for your soul.

[Fajita Jim]

Originalmente postado por Abisha:

sure that's why scientific community not know what happen split second after the bigbang but you figure it all out, where is your paper being published in nature? or getting a Nobel Prize?

Actually I'm just reciting some elementary basic principles of M-theory. This is just the Kindergarten stuff, we haven't even delved into the structure of the theory, yet. That's where Lorentzian manifolds and anti-de Sitter spaces come in, and I'm asking if you'd be able to keep up.

[Abisha]

Originalmente postado por Fajita Jim:

Originalmente postado por Abisha:

sure that's why scientific community not know what happen split second after the bigbang but you figure it all out, where is your paper being published in nature? or getting a Nobel Prize?

Actually I'm just reciting some elementary basic principles of M-theory. This is just the Kindergarten stuff, we haven't even delved into the structure of the theory, yet. That's where Lorentzian manifolds and anti-de Sitter spaces come in, and I'm asking if you'd be able to keep up.

oh ok... keep us informed if you have something interesting to say

[Fajita Jim]

Originalmente postado por Abisha:

Originalmente postado por Fajita Jim:

Actually I'm just reciting some elementary basic principles of M-theory. This is just the Kindergarten stuff, we haven't even delved into the structure of the theory, yet. That's where Lorentzian manifolds and anti-de Sitter spaces come in, and I'm asking if you'd be able to keep up.

oh ok... keep us informed if you have something interesting to say

I suppose the lack of a question mark (even though not appropriate given the syntax) could have been overlooked, but I did directly say 'I'm asking".

You're still not answering.

So I'll phrase it in the form of a question for the second time: If I start going into Lorentzian manifolds and anti-de Sitter space would you be able to keep up without asking "what does this and this mean"?

[Azor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2J7wSuFRl8&list=PLEA18FAF1AD9047B0

[Fajita Jim]

Originalmente postado por Munithe EXT:

Originalmente postado por Fajita Jim:

Of the EM drive? It's not looking good. I hate to use Wiki but it's concise, read the following section to completion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF_resonant_cavity_thruster#Tests_by_inventors

This is interesting...

In November 2016, the International Business Times published an unconfirmed report that the U.S. government was testing a version of the EmDrive on the Boeing X-37B

This is the one they launched recently. Around the time the pentagon confirmed they have a super-duper missile 17x the speed of sound.

Here's the source for that:

"We have - I call it, the 'super-duper missile,'" Trump added. "I heard the other night, 17 times faster than what they have right now, when you take the fastest missile we have right now. You've heard Russia has five times and China's working on five or six times. We have one 17 times, and it's just gotten the go-ahead."

Forgive me if I'm not all that excited. Or even a little 'yeahwhateverorangeone".

[Fajita Jim]

Originalmente postado por Munithe EXT:

Yeah but it was confirmed by the pentagon after he said that. They seemed annoyed that he had talked about it.

Then Pentagon just confirmed they were 'working on' hypersonic weapons. But we knew that since long time.

[Incarnate]

Originalmente postado por Darkie:

No I don't buy into all the dualistic theories.. We are just meat robots.

More like meat robots with psychological complexes.

...but, yeah, still basically just sentient clumps of carbon.

[Roxor]

Yes but im not sure

[SirKnechtalot]

Since your brain works on electricity and all currents create a magnetic field you could call this biomagetic field thus very weak a "soul". But since they´re interconected there´s nothing like an independent soul thingy like religious zealots claim.

[Fajita Jim]

Originalmente postado por SirKnechtalot:

Since your brain works on electricity and all currents create a magnetic field you could call this biomagetic field thus very weak a "soul". But since they´re interconected there´s nothing like an independent soul thingy like religious zealots claim.

Your thoughts are chemical, and occur within the neurons themselves. The electrical impulses are the neurons signalling each other. One neuron can 'hear' from many other neurons, but may only 'talk' to one. The decision to fire based on input is made chemically, which is why we aren't as fast as computers.

[SirKnechtalot]

Originalmente postado por Fajita Jim:

Your thoughts are chemical, and occur within the neurons themselves.

LOL! WUT? It´s the ensemble of neurons cooperating that´s what you´d call "a thought".
Also the chemicals in ur head´re "ions" u know dat loaded thingy. Thus it´s safe to say : ur brain works on electricity (eventhough it´s a gross oversimplification of the matter).

[Ailes]

Not really. Science will eventually unlock and understand everything, and at some point we will create true A.I. and artificial beings that will appear just as "soul"-driven as us. One could call that "transferring" or "creating" of souls, it really depends on how the term is defined I guess. But I wouldn't consider that something as divine, arcane or even god-like as many seem to do.

[SirKnechtalot]

Originalmente postado por Ailes:

... at some point we will create true A.I. ...

Err... you´d unable to understand whether it´s mimicking human behaviour (realy good) or whether it´s realy self aware.


Especially since it´s pretty much impossible to hard code an A.I.? Simply because you need to write the perfect code? You´d need autodebuggers and at some point they will become completely autonomous. IF an A.I. emerges "accidental" by whatever we do online (becus most likely no single computer will suffice) it´d hide from us. Quite possibly we woudln´t understand what´s going on for a while.
We´re naket apes having killed ourselfs by the billions?! By every gruesome method possible?! We´re armed to the teeth capable of killing ourselfs off ten times over?! No one in his right mind ´d reveal himself to us? Especially not if you´d have to fear some anti-virus program´d run over you if you do?

And yes it greatly depends on how you define the term...

[Birds]

Originalmente postado por MikeBob2013:

Originalmente postado por Munithe EXT:

Who is to say AI can't have a soul? In TNG, Data is treated as a legitimate lifeform.

Data's character development over the course of the series was excellently portrayed.

He basically started out as a walking, talking toaster oven and developed a personality over time, effectively becoming a mechanical human being by series' end.

I suppose it could be argued that he somehow 'acquired' a soul over that span of time, although he certainly didn't start out with one.

To be fair, he was like one or two years old or something.

Most people don't have a decent personality until they're like, 25ish. Maybe 16 or earlier if they're exceptionally special.

Kind of just programmed to learn things up until then.

[SirKnechtalot]

Originalmente postado por Munithe EXT:

What about these messed up Chimeras the scientists are creating now? Would they be classed as artificial lifeforms?

WUT?