wait... ferrari is dutch..?

[wubbelflup]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari

i mean located in the netherlands...?
i assume for tax evasion purposes though? although since it's legal i can't call it that officially ofc.
the actual company is located in italy right?

any car people here who know that stuff from memory?

[AdahnGorion]

My company is located on Jersey......




(Short answer to your question is.. google Exor)
https://www.ft.com/content/d8f4a538-729a-11e6-bf48-b372cdb1043a

Agnelli family company Exor leaves Italy
Group that controls Fiat Chrysler and Ferrari votes to move to the Netherlands

[628]

Founded in Modena, Itary and the current HQ is located in Amsterdam, Netherland.
So more like Itarian-Dutch, as Wiki says.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Munithe EXT:

Ferarri is 100% publicly owned afaik.

It is owned by the Princes of Italy (Yes that would be the best way to describe the Agnelli)

[Xautos]

Originally posted by Ryan628jpn:

Founded in Modena, Itary and the current HQ is located in Amsterdam, Netherland.
So more like Itarian-Dutch, as Wiki says.

Says De Jure for the Amsterdam HQ and De Facto for Maranello in Italy.
Officially Ferrari is ran from the Netherlands but in practice it is actually ran from Italy. Meaning Maranello actually runs things.

Originally posted by Darkie:

Originally posted by Munithe EXT:

Ferarri is 100% publicly owned afaik.

It is owned by the Princes of Italy (Yes that would be the best way to describe the Agnelli)

Wiki says 67% of the company is owned by the public and the Agnelli Family through Exor has a 22% share. 10% share goes to the son of Enzo Ferrari.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Xautos:

Originally posted by Ryan628jpn:

Founded in Modena, Itary and the current HQ is located in Amsterdam, Netherland.
So more like Itarian-Dutch, as Wiki says.

Says De Jure for the Amsterdam HQ and De Facto for Maranello in Italy.
Officially Ferrari is ran from the Netherlands but in practice it is actually ran from Italy. Meaning Maranello actually runs things.

Originally posted by Darkie:

It is owned by the Princes of Italy (Yes that would be the best way to describe the Agnelli)

Wiki says 67% of the company is owned by the public and the Agnelli Family through Exor has a 22% share. 10% share goes to the son of Enzo Ferrari.

It is a joke about them mustering the power via other forms as well.. lets not dig into it here on steam. I urge you to read about the Agnelli family instead.

[Schindler's Lifts]

Ah well. For the largest part of my childhood I thought Nokia was a Japanese company.

[BoneCracker]

Originally posted by Ocean Meat:

Ah well. For the largest part of my childhood I thought Nokia was a Japanese company.

its not?

[Xautos]

Originally posted by Munithe EXT:

Swedish I think... or some kind of scandinavian iirc.

Finland. you wouldn't expect Finland to be making such things, but they are worldwide on their phone tech, that's for sure.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Munithe EXT:

Swedish I think... or some kind of scandinavian iirc.

Originally posted by Ocean Meat:

Ah well. For the largest part of my childhood I thought Nokia was a Japanese company.

Originally posted by Xautos:

Originally posted by Munithe EXT:

Swedish I think... or some kind of scandinavian iirc.

Finland. you wouldn't expect Finland to be making such things, but they are worldwide on their phone tech, that's for sure.

This! It is a company from Finland.

[Radene]

This is why the EU needs a common tax policy, but nobody will sign off on that so it ain't happening.

Maybe some rollbacks would be in order, to rebuild the foundations.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Radene:

This is why the EU needs a common tax policy, but nobody will sign off on that so it ain't happening.

Maybe some rollbacks would be in order, to rebuild the foundations.

That will never happen, because the EU is split between alot of different takes on how to run a country.

[Radene]

Originally posted by Darkie:

Originally posted by Radene:

This is why the EU needs a common tax policy, but nobody will sign off on that so it ain't happening.

Maybe some rollbacks would be in order, to rebuild the foundations.

That will never happen, because the EU is split between alot of different takes on how to run a country.

As a frustrared pro-EU person, I say we need rollbacks on some treaties, and set up a working union even if it has to reboot with fewer countries that actually mean it. No asterisks in the treaties, no exceptions on common policy.

And all the "muh suverehnty" people can shut up as long as they keep getting that sweet sweet cohesion money from Brussles.

[Competizione]

It's there for tax purposes, the Netherlands is very beneficial to large holding companies with their low dividend tax and other fiscal incentives. Same reason why alot of US companies have their main european holding in Ireland.

Originally posted by Munithe EXT:

And owned by Germans. There aren't many truly British manufacturers left anymore. I think TVR is still British and that's about it. Not sure about Lotus, heard they got some Chinese funding for a hypercar so... maybe not british no more.

TVR is still in British hands, AM is publicly traded so maybe can still qualify as British. Bristol sadly closed shop this year. Apart from that, none of them are actually British. Lotus is owned by Geely.

Lotus also really went to ♥♥♥♥ the past decade.

[Abisha]

Did you not know Netherlands is paradise for tax evaders.... only if you residence within the nation you ♥♥♥♥ out of luck with only 45% tax upon 23% tax on anything you buy.

Starbucks do not pay any tax at all, they made a shady deal with Belastingdienst.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Radene:

Originally posted by Darkie:

That will never happen, because the EU is split between alot of different takes on how to run a country.

As a frustrared pro-EU person, I say we need rollbacks on some treaties, and set up a working union even if it has to reboot with fewer countries that actually mean it. No asterisks in the treaties, no exceptions on common policy.

And all the "muh suverehnty" people can shut up as long as they keep getting that sweet sweet cohesion money from Brussles.

Or we could go plain and let Germany unite Europe.
That is what project EU is after all... a modern day HRE