Female Representation In Video Games

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What are your thoughts on female representation in videogames? Have women been oversexualized in video games and media?

Neil Druckmann from Naughty Dog says that the gaming industry has sexualized women, how can games be more representative for female players?

[Gina]

引用自 Dxpress：

The only real case this bothers me is when it comes to protective armor.
Make the woman's model look sexy, fine, but if she's supposed to be wearing any form of protective armor, I can't take it seriously if the armor is just booty shorts and breastplates, leaving everything else unprotected.

Better hope you don't get shot in the legs, arms, or torso. :2018salienbeast1:

The best thing I ever saw on Facebook was a cartoon of a girl in bikini armor that was shot by an arrow in the upper chest where she was unprotected. The caption read something like "I seriously need to rethink my choice of attire." I have to re-share it on Facebook every time I see it, and I'm not a sharing type of a person on Facebook, but I love that one.

That said, I don't particularly care. I roll my eyes at certain things, but it's a game. I don't really play a game for realism.

[FINAL_Bₒₛₛ]

It is culture. It has been there since long time ago.

[The liar]

引用自 RyReps：

引用自 The liar：

Thank you for the mature comment.

It is often those games that have attention to detail, immersion and authenticity that are the most impressive in terms of character complexity whereas I often find that characters that are sexualized could often lack those character dimensions. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is one game that presents the female characters as sexualized while giving them a complexity and sophistication rather than only presenting them as eye candy for the player.

Yes. If the game developers take their time and think about the characters back stories (not all of them of course, but the main characters) they usually do a good job in portraying them. Dragon Age Inquisition as an example:
It makes sense that Morrigan wears almost nothing. She is a shapeshifter, a witch and prefers to live in the woods rather than in towns among people. She is also aware of her beauty and uses it.
Cassandra is a fighter and it makes sense that she wears sensible armor with a flat metal breastplate, pants and good flat shoes.

They don't have to make the women ugly or cover all of them up. If they would just choose the right clothes for the right character....that's all they have to do.
With men as well, by the way.

[LHGreen]

引用自 Darkie：

Yes obviously Amber Scott was right... ...He was not just bossy but also sexist, Amber Scott said so... ...Obviously Amber Scott is crazy...

Who?

[Pixelpusher]

women come in demanding representation in male spaces

[Pixelpusher]

the cycle will continue

[.: DBM :.]

引用自 Pixelpusher：

women come in demanding representation in male spaces

which ones lol

[Phirestar]

Women haven't been any more or less sexualized in media than men. In the same way there's female characters with revealing outfits in video games - an industry that has always been predominately male-oriented - there's examples of male sexualization in other forms of media made for women. Search up "romance novels" on Google images and see just how many book covers feature men with open shirts or completely bare chests. You can tell immediately who those novels are targeted at by the fact that women aren't dressed the same way, with some not even featuring women on the covers at all.

The problem with this whole "video games objectify women" debate is that the people making those statements only pay attention to the examples that reinforce their argument. There are many dozens of games released each year that do not sexualize any of their female characters, but apparently that doesn't matter. It's the single time when one game does do so, that it now suddenly represents all video games. (And even then, it's not always exclusive to the female characters; male characters have been sexualized too.)

As for "representation"? That already exists - so much that I cannot fathom how people don't see it. Most of the games that I've played have featured either a female protagonist, or the ability to customize your own character to be male or female. You can go onto the tags section of Steam and check the "Female Protagonist" tag, which has nearly 2,000 results. And that's only considering the main character; to say nothing about all the various non-protagonist characters that also exist. It's not an issue, plain and simple.

[GuRu Asaki]

引用自 RyReps：

What are your thoughts on female representation in videogames? Have women been oversexualized in video games and media?

Neil Druckmann from Naughty Dog says that the gaming industry has sexualized women, how can games be more representative for female players?

No, those women who want to have been desexualized to the point no one would like them, or even bother to care for them anymore...

They've become not normal anymore...
If these so called women are ok with having their looks & image destroyed, then good for them...

They achieved a new low... Make absolutely sure no one would want anything to do with them, they treat people bad, & look bad while doing so... Congrats on the new Achievements...


I mean, is that really what people want?
Is to not be liked at all? Do people really want this on purpose? Because it sends mixed messages to people, I myself dont understand what people are trying to gain from this... Its obviously not Equal Rights, so whatever it is, they are not getting a message across many will understand...

[Gus the Crocodile]

引用自 RyReps：

What are your thoughts on female representation in videogames? Have women been oversexualized in video games and media?

Of course. Seems like it’d be hard to have paid any attention to games at all in the last several decades and disagree.

It’s getting better, of course. More women involved in developing women characters helps. Greater diversity of all kinds among developers helps. Smaller percentage of games made by embarrassing manchildren.

[Spud the Spud]

If anything females are significantly overrepresented and overbuffed in video games, to the point of absurdity. How many games where you can select male/female for your character do you suffer a strength, speed, and toughness penalty for picking the female? I can't think of any. But that's how it is IRL.

Women want less pandering to men with so called "oversexualization" (which is not a point that I concede, it's just that western women tend to be fat, and in games they're generally not)? How about less pandering to women, by making female characters weaker, slower, and with fewer hp than men? Suddenly all that talk of equality goes out the window, seems like.

[GuRu Asaki]

Desexualizing a persons self wont get you anywhere...

You should just be who you are, stop worrying about a look, if people make it an issue, they are not good to be with...

The problem is: Some women have problems with how they look or appeal on the outside, some men dont care, they like them for who they are, not what they look like...

Desexualizing themselves wont do anything...

- Being Annorexic
- Constantly looking in the mirror
- Over Eating
- Body Modifications
- Tattoos
- Constant Stress About A Look
- Perpousely Desexualizing Self
- Cutting Away At The Body
- Purposely looking bad
- Using terrible Attitudes

All of this is just the same thing... Just worrying how one looks... Nothing has changed by Desexualizing ones self, all thats been done is more worry & stress being taken into a New Form of worry, & stress...

Being Annorexic or Desexualizing, is the all the same, weather you do one or the other, it doesnt matter, your still showing that you have issues either way you look at it...

This is why it sends mixed messages, why cant people just be themselves for once, stop following a trend that makes 0 sense...

PS:
Im sure there are Typos in here, but dont bug me over it...

[Castyles]

引用自 Crazy Tiger：

引用自 Ⓟunished Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍：

Uh...

Did you play The last of us? She was already a lesbian. That's not a new development. people just want to overlook that because she's actually in a relationship in this game.

Oh no. A woman has a normal healthy relationship with another woman. Must be an agenda!

Freaking hell.

Here's a little secret. Women like to look at hot chicks. That's no surprise.

And you know what? Have you seen the dudes in video games? I sure as hell don't look like any of them except maybe the RC helicopter guy in San Andreas. You can't hold up a double standard and have an actual conversation. And quite a few of my favorite characters in video games are women that aren't overly sexualized. Lara Croft in tomb raider 2013. The main character in fear effect.

You don't see me complaining that a lot of men are built like brick ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Yup, agree. Aloy in Horizon is one of my favorite characters in games, for example.

And yeah, some dudes in games are ridiculous. It's just as the regular movie and tv series, everybody has to be good looking. Apparently the average person doesn't exist in media.

Hopefully that's changing. There's lots of average and/or ugly individuals on games, movies and series nowadays. And not as comic-relief either. Which is great because true hot as ♥♥♥♥ people due to genetics alone are a minority. Adds credibility.

[Gus the Crocodile]

引用自 GuRu Asaki：

The problem is: Some women have problems with how they look or appeal on the outside, some men dont care, they like them for who they are, not what they look like...

This is pretty rich when only twenty minutes earlier you were acting like not being ridiculously sexualised means “no one would like them anymore”.

引用自 GuRu Asaki：

Being Annorexic or Desexualizing, is the all the same

Uh, no. One’s a dangerous behavioural disorder and the other one is just not giving sad dudes wank material.

引用自 Spud the Spud：

If anything females are significantly overrepresented and overbuffed in video games, to the point of absurdity. How many games where you can select male/female for your character do you suffer a strength, speed, and toughness penalty for picking the female? I can't think of any. But that's how it is IRL.

Thats how it is at a population level. Those differences are statistical (and I would dispute ‘toughness’, personally, given the amount of ♥♥♥♥ women absorb and keep going). But in a game you aren’t choosing a population, you’re choosing an individual. Individual characters are not restricted to being incarnations of averageness.

[Spud the Spud]

引用自 Gus the Crocodile：

引用自 Spud the Spud：

If anything females are significantly overrepresented and overbuffed in video games, to the point of absurdity. How many games where you can select male/female for your character do you suffer a strength, speed, and toughness penalty for picking the female? I can't think of any. But that's how it is IRL.

Thats how it is at a population level. Those differences are statistical (and I would dispute ‘toughness’, personally, given the amount of ♥♥♥♥ women absorb and keep going). But in a game you aren’t choosing a population, you’re choosing an individual. Individual characters are not restricted to being incarnations of averageness.

"Those differences are statistical" No. Your argument is that a strong woman can be the same strength as a man, and sure, they can. An average man. But if we're selecting heroes, a strong woman is not as strong as a strong man, and so on with the others. That's fact. Go look up world records sometime. While you're at it, you may notice that for male sprinters to qualify for the US Olympic team they need to run faster than the women's world record. Just to qualify to be on the team (10.5 seconds for men to qualify, women's world record is 10.8). You may also notice that professional women's soccer teams practice against male junior varsity teams, and lose at least part of the time. Think that would happen with the mens team against the female junior varsity team? Me neither. So if we're selecting individuals who excel as the characters, then the male would still be significantly stronger/faster/tougher/etc.

Oh, as to toughness. Men have a higher pain tolerance (plenty of studies you can look up, it's not a secret), greater bone density (also not a secret), more muscle mass to absorb a blow/cut/etc (thought this was obvious, but here we are). You don't really have a leg to stand on with this one.

So unless your argument is that in games we're forced to choose between an average guy and a truly exceptional female, which just reinforces my point, your entire position on this is wrong.