Whats the most Balanced PvP game?

[gunner]

Hi guys, just wondering what games you play that you feel are very Balance when it comes to PvP games?

I like Starcraft 1, but some maps like Blood Bath are just Zerg maps.

I like Warcraft 3, but some feel each Race has a weakness to another race. For example Orcs can hit Undead quite hard and Undead can hit Nightelves quite hard.

Currently I am play Crucible. Bugg is very powerful 1 versus 1 Hunter. Tosca is very useful in Harvester Command. I have yet to try every character so cannot comment further.

Would like to know how you feel about your games and their balance for PvP.

[liosalpha]

Chess
only inbalance is, the one starting.

[37]

Counter Strike

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

Originally posted by liosalpha:

Chess
only inbalance is, the one starting.:winter2019happyyul:

agreed. No computer game is ever going to be completely and fairly balanced as even if you make a bare bones fps with everyone using the same gun theres always going to be ping and lag compensation deciding the outcome.

[Defenestration]

I think CS:GO is one of the most balanced games out there considering they have a huge competitive scene and developers who make balance changes.

[agu]

I'd go with CSGO

[Silverkite]

Originally posted by Defenestration:

I think CS:GO is one of the most balanced games out there considering they have a huge competitive scene and developers who make balance changes.

is this a CT sided map or a terrorist sided map?

[peppermint hollows]

Originally posted by 💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕:

Originally posted by liosalpha:

Chess
only inbalance is, the one starting.

agreed. No computer game is ever going to be completely and fairly balanced as even if you make a bare bones fps with everyone using the same gun theres always going to be ping and lag compensation deciding the outcome.

I mean...local play is a thing, to be fair.

[Defenestration]

Originally posted by Silverkite:

Originally posted by Defenestration:

I think CS:GO is one of the most balanced games out there considering they have a huge competitive scene and developers who make balance changes.

is this a CT sided map or a terrorist sided map?

Here's a result from professional matches recorded by HLTV in 2019. The T/CT win rates for the maps are around the same. The smallest gap is Inferno with a 50/50, while the biggest gap is Cobblestone with a 65.1/34.9. Keep in mind that Cobblestone was only played twice, while other maps were played hundreds and thousands of times. https://www.hltv.org/stats/maps?startDate=2019-01-01&endDate=2019-12-31

Here's another one from the counter-strike blog. The T/CT win rates are also around the same. I would trust the HLTV blog more because balance is determined from the best players in the game. The counter-strike blog collects this data from the top 4 ranks in matchmaking, and we know how bad matchmaking players can be https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/map-data-01/

[Suffy]

Tic Tac Toe.

[PL@YER]

csgo is the worst balanced counter strike dont know why everyone wants to glance over the whole the debacle the game just went through with the aug and sg553 + all previous wtf are you doing valve ♥♥♥♥ ups

[PL@YER]

Originally posted by Defenestration:

Originally posted by quake-life:

csgo is the worst balanced counter strike dont know why everyone wants to glance over the whole the debacle the game just went through with the aug and sg553 + all previous wtf are you doing valve ♥♥♥♥ ups

I think you outta check out the links I put above. The results show that the game is pretty balanced.

no it shows the map design, which has always been valves strong suit has a semblance of balance. you are making quite a logical leap to say balanced maps = balanced game

[Logan]

Like others said, csgo. Unless you are more of a moba guy, then you should try LoL (if you can survive a salt this game produces)

[JFranco]

SI

[The nameless Gamer]

Quake 3. Everyone gets the same weapons and it's all about constantly calculating the spawn times of items.

[Defenestration]

Originally posted by quake-life:

Originally posted by Defenestration:

I think you outta check out the links I put above. The results show that the game is pretty balanced.

no it shows the map design, which has always been valves strong suit has a semblance of balance. you are making quite a logical leap to say balanced maps = balanced game

Are you saying the game isn't balanced compared to other counter-strike games or just not a balanced game in general?

I haven't played other counter-strike games, but I know CS:GO is a balanced game in general. Map design influences the round win rates but those stats only record round wins. If the round win stats from each side are around the same, that should be an indicator that the maps are pretty balanced, thus the game is pretty balanced, even in the highest level of competitive play. I'm not sure why that wouldn't be an indicator of a balanced game. For the most part, weapons seemed to be balanced as well.