Why do people hate on Ubisoft and Epic?

[Azuwi]

You rant and blame you have to make a account on their software to be able to play games, but you don't hate that you have to make a account on Steam to play a Steam game.

If a wheel is being released do you hate it isn't only useable on Toyota or that can you use it on Nissan and Subaru aswell?

Same if a game is released, should it only be playable on Steam or can it be played on Ubisoft and Epic aswell?

So what's the big fuzz about having an other account or you have to make another account or use another platform to play that game?! I hate reading negative reviews because you have to use "blabla client" to play the game. Cause you don't rant you have to use Steam to play a game.

It literally takes 5 minutes to create an account and download a client. It's a CLIENT, not a game.

Also nothing wrong with Ubisoft, Epic, or EA for that matter. They just trying to make money (like we all do) and doing their thing.

Ubisoft have made some nice and fun games, with good graphics, strategy etc. (Anno series)
EA have made Sims, Battlefield and more (amazing war game)
Epic have Fortnite (been succesful now it sucks) and a bunch of other "Epic-only" games plus they have a free game every week, it's great for those people who are poor and can't afford to buy games. (last week it was GTA V Deluxe Edition now it's Sid Meier's Civilization VI)
Blizzard have it's own client too, don't see so much about Blizzard though.

If your prefered game is on Epic and not on Steam, don't hate Epic, then hate the game publisher/maker for choosing to sell it's game on Epic. (and not Steam)

I personally never had any issues with any of the above, so i don't understand the negative fuss about it.

If you are gonna say the support sucks, yes, but it sucks on all big companies like this. Steam support sucks. EA support sucks. Ubisoft support sucks. Epic support sucks. Blizzard support sucks. There is no difference. The only good support is the "black sheep" small companies.

[s w e k]

Why do people hate on Ubisoft and Epic?

I don't know. I have never played any Ubisoft games, nor do I pay attention to the company, and I ignore the Epic drama because it's all whiny noise to me.

[Ganger]

Daxank eredeti hozzászólása:

There's a difference between MAKING YOUR PRODUCTS and making them exclusive to your platform VS BUYING EXCLUSIVITY RIGHTS to products you didn't even help create.
Netflix makes their own stuff

Netflix still has to negotiate exclusive licensing deals with studios for programs they don't make or own.

[Ganger]

Plaid eredeti hozzászólása:

Ubisoft was good from 1995 or so, to around 2008. Then things really started going downhill.

I know were your coming from with this. But what we forum users think doesn't matter to them, what matters to them is how many people enjoy ubisoft games enough to go out and re-buy the same rehashed game year upon year. Every year adds brand new gamers who become fans of e.g farcry or assassin's creed etc, it never ends.

[moon]

Rayden☆✪ eredeti hozzászólása:

You rant and blame you have to make a account on their software to be able to play games, but you don't hate that you have to make a account on Steam to play a Steam game.

If a wheel is being released do you hate it isn't only useable on Toyota or that can you use it on Nissan and Subaru aswell?

Same if a game is released, should it only be playable on Steam or can it be played on Ubisoft and Epic aswell?

So what's the big fuzz about having an other account or you have to make another account or use another platform to play that game?! I hate reading negative reviews because you have to use "blabla client" to play the game. Cause you don't rant you have to use Steam to play a game.

It literally takes 5 minutes to create an account and download a client. It's a CLIENT, not a game.

Also nothing wrong with Ubisoft, Epic, or EA for that matter. They just trying to make money (like we all do) and doing their thing.

Ubisoft have made some nice and fun games, with good graphics, strategy etc. (Anno series)
EA have made Sims, Battlefield and more (amazing war game)
Epic have Fortnite (been succesful now it sucks) and a bunch of other "Epic-only" games plus they have a free game every week, it's great for those people who are poor and can't afford to buy games. (last week it was GTA V Deluxe Edition now it's Sid Meier's Civilization VI)
Blizzard have it's own client too, don't see so much about Blizzard though.

If your prefered game is on Epic and not on Steam, don't hate Epic, then hate the game publisher/maker for choosing to sell it's game on Epic. (and not Steam)

I personally never had any issues with any of the above, so i don't understand the negative fuss about it.

If you are gonna say the support sucks, yes, but it sucks on all big companies like this. Steam support sucks. EA support sucks. Ubisoft support sucks. Epic support sucks. Blizzard support sucks. There is no difference. The only good support is the "black sheep" small companies.

I think their games are fun. I've liked the Assassins creed, Far Cry & Ghost Recon series'. One thing I don't like is the controls often being unresponsive or suddenly becoming erratic in some of their games. I have Valhalla & Watch Dogs Legion both pre ordered for PS4. I have Uplay installed but rarely use it & a few games on EPIC, mostly free.People hate them because they can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


My recent experience from playing Ghost Recon Breakpoint is that whoever was in charge of the game development is incompetent. AC Origins was another game that I had similar issues with.

When basic things like animations taking an eternity causing death, unresponsive controls, delayed controls then delay on waiting for whichever action it is to activate, like the weapon wheel selection or healing, negatively affects gameplay.

Select the thing
Wait for animation
Use the thing
Wait for animation
Wait for thing to do something
Dead (killed by enemy during animation)

They could make a movie out of the animations they take so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ long lol

Also being shot at close range when there's no enemy in sight which can be checked by simply spinning the camera around apart from the fact that they're usually marked with the drone, special grenade & weapon. Enemies appearing out of nowhere suddenly infront or behind you or shooting through objects that you can't & psychic abilities with X-ray vision. This is when the enemies are alerted, when you don't want to be fighting with the controls as well. Can become frustrating which affects the 'fun'.

Ubisoft Paris can let the GR community defend them while they sit back laughing like skeletor (in a French accent).



Right, back to Maunga Nui Island


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[TannerNeedsSleep]

At least when I buy a tire, I don't gotta check in with Michelin every time I start my car and confirm I own the tire I bought in order to be able to drive with it.

[ゴゴmikelormeゴゴ]

JG | Luxe eredeti hozzászólása:

Gabriel eredeti hozzászólása:

I see, but again, That decision was made by the DARQ developer.

Yup, It was indeed a choice by the developer. I remember following the progress on Reddit while he was still working on it. I've been meaning to purchase it to support him for his decision.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/18/darq-developer-reveals-why-he-turned-down-an-epic-exclusivity-deal

Damn
I have no idea what is DARQ about but ai might buy it now

[Daxank]

mikelorme eredeti hozzászólása:

JG | Luxe eredeti hozzászólása:

Yup, It was indeed a choice by the developer. I remember following the progress on Reddit while he was still working on it. I've been meaning to purchase it to support him for his decision.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/18/darq-developer-reveals-why-he-turned-down-an-epic-exclusivity-deal

Damn
I have no idea what is DARQ about but ai might buy it now

You should, great game made by a great dev.

[ゴゴmikelormeゴゴ]

Daxank eredeti hozzászólása:

mikelorme eredeti hozzászólása:

Damn
I have no idea what is DARQ about but ai might buy it now

You should, great game made by a great dev.

ok,thanks

[Amuro0079]

The same reason why people hated Steam back then from 2003 up until 2008-09. It's called resistance to change. People got used to buying and owning physical copies back then and they didn't want that to change so they would go nuts when games started requiring Steam. Same thing is happening now.

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Ubisoft is great. Epic, i rather give my credit card info to a bum on the street then to a chinese company.

[Doomerang]

If you blatantly ignore ten cent and it's connection to the CCP mr op then there really is no hope for you. You are not even worth any more further time.

[Ganger]

Amuro0079 eredeti hozzászólása:

The same reason why people hated Steam back then from 2003 up until 2008-09. It's called resistance to change. People got used to buying and owning physical copies back then and they didn't want that to change so they would go nuts when games started requiring Steam. Same thing is happening now.

Same reason has to why micro transactions and DLC are now part of gaming because gamers came to accept this practice and new gamers born since know no difference.

Biggest lost we gamers never talk about is how we as gamers gave up all our rights as gamers....
the right to own our physical media, our rights to trade and resell the games we bought. Now we are all at the mercy and will of massive corporatizations who can take our games away at any time (according to the Eula and ToS that is)

[The nameless Gamer]

Ganger eredeti hozzászólása:

Same reason has to why micro transactions and DLC are now part of gaming because gamers came to accept this practice and new gamers born since know no difference.

Biggest lost we gamers never talk about is how we as gamers gave up all our rights as gamers....
the right to own our physical media, our rights to trade and resell the games we bought. Now we are all at the mercy and will of massive corporatizations who can take our games away at any time (according to the Eula and ToS that is)

Reselling bought games hurts the developer. How much do you think a developer like Bombservice would have earned if one person bought "Momodora - reverie under the moonlight" and sold it to 50 others? That's right, they'd have to close up shop after that game. Also, DLC existed before, but it was called Expansion Packs. Nobody threw a fit when Starcraft: Brood War came out, on the contrary.

Some change is good, other is bad. Epic didn't bring any good change, and neither did Ubisoft. That fabled 12% cut people keep bringing up at best compensates for the people who ignore the game for being an Epic exclusive. Steam's arrival saved PC gaming. Epic poisoned the well.

[Commander Makara]

Ganger eredeti hozzászólása:

I understand you reasoning here but why then do you support steam ? as valve basically does the same as the companies involved.

There are significant differences between Valve operation and those of other companies, including those mentioned. I'm not sure how you can suggest Valve are doing the same.

For example, Valve remain privately owned and therefore can invest profit into their business, rather than appease stakeholders. Also, of course, Valve have not therefore sold shares to TenCent.
Valve continue to dedicate time and effort to producing quality works and have provided for independant developers (albeit in seeking to monopolise of course). Ubisoft wrapaped their initiatives in a nationalist, Canada-first restrictions, sticking two fingers up to the rest of the world's greatest small-size indie developers, whilst Epic tried forcing exclusivity in their store.

There are more reasons, but these are a few which clearly separate Valve from Guillemot/Epic.

Of course, Valve are far from perfect, but in the history I have with them, they have been a far lesser evil and since I haven't purchased any significant product from Steam in years and rarely play any games here now, only logging on for a few days every few months - my "support" is quite limited.

[The nameless Gamer]

Granted, I do not hate either company. If somebody does trust Epic and wants to spend there, knock your socks off. No skin off my back. I have a bad gut feeling about them, and I stay clear. As for Ubisoft, if they actually had made more games like "Child of Light" instead of milking Assassin's Creed to no end and trying to drain people's wallets with "live services", I'd be interested in their work.