Leaving Neverland was awesome documentary

[jose.gonzales.2006]

It really showed me how blind i was and how i always thought he was a great musician and a good guy while in reality it was completely different, it really opened my eyes and i feel bad for all the kids who expirienced the same with him. I still cannot believe that there are people saying "oh he is doing it just for money" or all his salty fans on any social media. No one in my family was like a big fan of him or anything..including me but i always appreciated his work and his personality until i found out he was different. After seeing this i cant understand how someone is still defending him. What do you think

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

Let this be the lesson, documentaries employ the techniques of propaganda, very convincing, but often not true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnoQqlygQs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yTTEwBLfUQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYx0vLfpRYY

[MancSoulja]

Regardless of whether MJ was a pervert or not, Leaving Neverland was absolutely crammed with lies.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

>1000's of hours of manpower by the FBI that revealed literally no evidence of MJ's sexual abuse allegations
>hard schleep
>some guy's opinion
>real ♥♥♥♥

TBH the documentary felt more forced and diluted. It also came off as very opinionated and well....♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!

No doubt MJ has a bunch of phsycological and mental problems, but he was probably not a child molester.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ původně napsal:

Let this be the lesson, documentaries employ the techniques of propaganda, very convincing, but often not true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnoQqlygQs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yTTEwBLfUQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYx0vLfpRYY

i learned my lesson immeidately after watching literally any vegan documentary. The term "documentary" is pretty loosely b/c it's basically trying to be a biography but written by someone else without even asking the main person(s) themselves. They just ask "experts" or close connections to the subject at hand. Usually they push an agenda, as you said, and tug at the heartstrings vs actual facts.

The only documentaries i'll ever take as even remotely factual are nature documentaries. I'll trust morgan freeman's voice narrating about a penguins in Antartica anyday.

[Γαῖα]

No OP, your still very much blind.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕 původně napsal:

I respect him as a musician and what he did for the industry, I refuse to speak of any allegations regarding his personal life that he can't defend himself against being dead.

Pretty much

it is sorta true you do have more defenders in death than you ever do when you're alive.

[Danksama]

MJ dindu nuffin

[chiefputsilao✖️ping]

when an old man sleeps with young kids (even with no sex), that raises a flag.

when an old man prefers the company of young kids, that raises a flag.

now, i really don't know if MJ is innocent or not. if by chance he is still alive today and want my kids to sleep in his bed in exchange for a personal autograph and monetary considerations, i'd say no.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

chiefputsi✖✖✖ 上 没什么 老挝 původně napsal:

when an old man sleeps with young kids (even with no sex), that raises a flag.

when an old man prefers the company of young kids, that raises a flag.

now, i really don't know if MJ is innocent or not. if by chance he is still alive today and want my kids to sleep in his bed in exchange of personal autograph and monetary considerations, i'd say no.

There's no denying he had problems, i'm sure we can all say that (infact most big stars, singers, and actors usually do).

but the child sexual abuse allegations are too far fetched.

[chiefputsilao✖️ping]

even a few catholic cardinals, bishops, and ordinary priests are guilty of sex crimes against children.
how much more for unsupervised adults who prefer the company of kids?

far fetched? idk. we will never know if a certain person is definitely a monster unless we experienced it ourselves.

personally, i know of one person who was once was fondled by a priest. he told his friends about the incidence and nobody believed him.

if the law and order: svu tv series is to be believed, not all victims tell the truth. some may go to the police, others will keep the secret for different reasons. at times, victims may have rage contained until something breaks loose. unfortunately, some victims end up becoming perpetrators later in life.

[Danksama]

chiefputsi✖✖✖ 上 没什么 老挝 původně napsal:

even a few catholic cardinals, bishops, and ordinary priests are guilty of sex crimes against children.
how much more for unsupervised adults who prefer the company of kids?

far fetched? idk. we will never know if a certain person is definitely a monster unless we experienced it ourselves.

personally, i know of one person who was once was fondled by a priest. he told his friends about the incidence and nobody believed him.

if the law and order: svu tv series is to be believed, not all victims tell the truth. some may go to the police, others will keep the secret for different reasons. at times, victims may have rage contained until something breaks loose. unfortunately, some victims end up becoming perpetrators later in life.

MJ had serious issues quite openly that everyone knew about, unlike most Catholic priests/Cardinals/bishops, etc I can think of. His experience isn't an easy comparison to the Catholic child abuse issue, I don't think.

[gugnihr]

Danksama původně napsal:

MJ had serious issues quite openly that everyone knew about, unlike most Catholic priests/Cardinals/bishops, etc I can think of.

Just because you can't think of it it does not mean Chatolic priests etc don't have serious issues.
I believe many of them have a lot of issues and probably most saints and martyrs where just masochists.
For example you could search information about st. Margaret Mary Alacoque and what she did and what she liked to put on her tongue...
Really disgusting and not a sign of good mental health

[Ceci n'est pas un nom]

This is interesting :
It is an interview with Brandi Jackson, she's Michael's niece.
She was Wade Robson's girlfriend :
(the actual interview starts at about 7.30)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT64RdTQ8jI

[Danksama]

gugnihr původně napsal:

Danksama původně napsal:

MJ had serious issues quite openly that everyone knew about, unlike most Catholic priests/Cardinals/bishops, etc I can think of.

Just because you can't think of it it does not mean Chatolic priests etc don't have serious issues.
I believe many of them have a lot of issues and probably most saints and martyrs where just masochists.
For example you could search information about st. Margaret Mary Alacoque and what she did and what she liked to put on her tongue...
Really disgusting and not a sign of good mental health

That wasn't my main point but okay, whatever. Not really bothered to go into this.

[jose.gonzales.2006]

Γαῖα původně napsal:

No OP, your still very much blind.

But how do you explain his acting when he was still alive and the kid sued him.. It was pretty clear he lied that day, also the things the kid said to the therapist cant be faked just because of when it was recorded